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VS Switch At JFK--Why?  
User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Hi all,
I am sorry if this has been covered before, but I could not find anything in the search.

I am wondering why Virgin Atlantic switched from T1 to T4 at JFK and also when the change went into effect (I heard that the change happened in 2003, but I fly in to JFK in early 2004 and VS was still at T1).

Thanks in advance.
 Smile
-Will


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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

Virgin Atlantic moved from Terminal 1 to Terminal 4 in February 2004. The reason was more space at T4. Also, T4 is the newest and nicest of all of the passenger terminals at JFK Airport. Terminal 1 was very nice indeed, and VS moved there from the old T4 in 1999. T1 did not offer enough space for the Virgin Club House lounge, and since VS moved to T1, it has added a third evening departure, making the clubhouse somewhat crowded.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

T4 also has more shopping facilities than in T1, so offering the passengers a more pleasant terminal to wait in.

I also believe T4 has more gate space to accommodate the A346, and will be more suited to accommodate the A380 when it arrives IIRC.

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User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Haven't some other carriers also moves from T1 to T4? I think Singapore, but I'm not sure.

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

T4 also has more shopping facilities than in T1, so offering the passengers a more pleasant terminal to wait in.

Good point, when I flew VS to LHR last January, not long before the move to T4, I found little to do once I'd passed through security at T1. A few more shops would've been welcome. Though I guess it would've been hopeless to expect anything like the massive duty-free shop at LHR, my head's still spinning at the size of that  Smile



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User currently offlineVS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Also there was cost involved

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4278 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

I'm sure the one time cost of moving will pay for itself in just a few months. And who knows if VS bargained for a deal with the PANYNJ....


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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

Haven't some other carriers also moves from T1 to T4? I think Singapore, but I'm not sure.

SQ moved from T1 to T4 as well.


User currently offlineSan2snow From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Is there any word if America West may be moving over to T4 so that VS passengers can connect on with the new agreement?

[Edited 2004-07-04 01:41:49]


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User currently offlineORBITJFK From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2926 times:

I flew VS JFK-LHR in Oct. '02 and it was from a beautiful new, open, airy, spacy terminal so it must have been Terminal 4.

ORBITJFK


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2922 times:

I flew VS JFK-LHR in Oct. '02 and it was from a beautiful new, open, airy, spacy terminal so it must have been Terminal 4.

VA was at T1 then. T1 would fit your description, however.




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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2889 times:

"Virgin Atlantic moved from Terminal 1 to Terminal 4 in February 2004."

"I flew VS JFK-LHR in Oct. '02 and it was from a beautiful new, open, airy, spacy terminal so it must have been Terminal 4."

So you must have read all the replys before posting this.  Insane

 Smile



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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Is there any word if America West may be moving over to T4 so that VS passengers can connect on with the new agreement?

Maybe someone can address this better, but America West is also a partner with British Airways (who is also at T7 at JFK). So is America West getting the best of both worlds with being aligned with BA and VS?

Please let me know if you have more info.

Thanks.  Smile
-Will



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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Leezyjet, you are correct...several gates (I think approximately 4) will be refitted with upper deck airbridges for the A380. Virgin, Singapore and Emirates will operate the A380 at JFK.

User currently offlineJfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

I heard it had a lot to do with the A340-600. It's really long (as you know) and it was extremely difficult to make the turns necessary to park the aircraft at T1. T4 was better suited for that and the A380.

In my opinion both T1 and T4 are beautiful facilities--two of the nicest in the world.

PJ


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2162 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

i've heard administration at T1 is awful, and that T4 is laying out the red carpet to attract carriers.

personally, prefer T1 because the business lounge (at least for AF) is air-side rather than land-side. more efficient with overscanning TSA and long lines.



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