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Martinair Cargo Started Service To Beirut  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

A bit late, but Martinair Cargo began service to Beirut this last Friday (June 27) operating from Amsterdam continuing to Hong Kong on a 747-200F.

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Does anyone happen to know the schedules?

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Good to see new cargo carriers coming to Beirut, even though the Beirut cargo facilities need a lot of work.

Perhaps OD720 knows, but I heard there are plans to develop a large "cargo village" in Beirut Airport to help position Beirut as another major cargo gateway in the Middle East competing with Dubai. Anyone heard of anything?

Right now the existing cargo carriers (Cargolux and MASkargo) use the terrible old TMA facilities, right?

Regards

[Edited 2004-07-04 15:41:23]


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2934 times:

Good route from hkg (tec stuff) i bet exotica will be please to have cargo from amsterdam more competition...


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

BA,

I'm not aware of such plans but since there's potential, they will probably start work on a up to date cargo terminal.

On another note, DonBassAero has started services to BEY from Donetsk continuing to DXB.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Hi OD720,

On another note, DonBassAero has started services to BEY from Donetsk continuing to DXB.

Yeah, Yegbey01 found this route in the CRS.

Was it reported in any newspapers as well? Or are you seeing any advertisements?

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

I haven't seen any reports, just some ads here and there.

Regards.


User currently offlineCedarwings From Lebanon, joined Apr 2004, 216 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Was it reported in any newspapers as well? Or are you seeing any advertisements?

just look to the bottom of this page:

http://www.albaladonline.com/index.php?pnumber=7




I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

They have great scanners Big grin Quite a lazy way of putting your newspaper online.

User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Does anyone happen to know the schedules?

According to their website (http://www.martinaircargo.com/) it's

Departing AMS : 12:30
Arrival Beirut: 17:35
Flight MP9577
Operating day should be Sunday

BTW it looks as if MP only operates a flight from AMS to BEY and not from BEY to AMS



User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

Thanks CedarWings.

Thanks for the schedules Lj.

Regards

[Edited 2004-07-04 20:19:39]


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Looks like Lebanon is going to become a huge cargo hub. The port is going to be expanded, Frims are bidding for a railway to Iraq. So Lebanon is going to become a major cargo hub on the ground, the air and the sea. Not bad, not bad at all


MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Just figured out the routing.

It operates Amsterdam - Beirut - Sharjah - Hong Kong - Bangkok - Sharjah - Amsterdam.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Here are all the scheduled cargo routes to Beirut from what I know.




Monday MH6132/6133 B747-200SF
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) - Dubai (DXB) - Amsterdam (AMS) - Beirut (BEY) - Dubai (DXB) - Kuala Lumpur (KUL)






Wednesday CV7162/7173 B747-400F
Luxembourg (LUX) - Beirut (BEY) - Dubai (DXB) - Reunion (RUN) - Nairobi (NBO) - Maastricht (MST) - Luxembourg (LUX)



Thursday CV7904/7915 B747-400F
Luxembourg (LUX) - Beirut (BEY) - Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Taipei (TPE) - Bangkok (BKK) - Abu Dhabi (AUH) - Luxembourg (LUX)



Saturday CV7826/7837 B747-300SF (Operated by Air Atlanta Icelandic)
Luxembourg (LUX) - Beirut (BEY) - Sharjah (SHJ) - Karachi (KHI) - Luxembourg (LUX)






Sunday MP9577/9677 B747-200SF
Amsterdam (AMS) - Beirut (BEY) - Sharjah (SHJ) - Hong Kong (HKG) - Bangkok (BKK) - Sharjah (SHJ) - Amsterdam (AMS)




I have no idea what is up with TMA whether they are flying or not and if on a scheduled basis or not.

Lufthansa Cargo and Air France Cargo used to fly to Beirut in the past. I am not sure why they stopped. Hopefully they'll return one day soon.

It would be nice to see Emirates SkyCargo also.

Does anyone know if there are any other cargo carriers offering scheduled service to Beirut? I have always thought DHL did, but I think they fly only ad-hoc charters. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Saudi Arabian Cargo also sometimes flies to Beirut, but not on a scheduled basis as far as I know.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

was TMA planning to launch passenger services?


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

By the way,

More flights from the Ukraine to Beirut this summer.

One flight a week from Smirefropol (The city name kinda confusing... but the code is SPI) to Beirut with an A320.

BA,

nice map showing the Cargo routes out of BEY


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

The name could be Simferopol. Do you know what airline will operate the flight? UM Air is the only Ukraine airline that is a A320 operator and it flies BEY-IEV twice a week now, with a mixed A320 and DC-9.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Yegbey01,

The code is SIP. SPI is Springfield, IL in the USA.

Could somebody please explain to me the reason for the sudden boom for flights to the Ukraine from Beirut?

Kiev I can understand, but Simferopol and Donetsk??

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

I just checked and the Kiev code should be KBP instead of IEV as I typed earlier.

BA,

It could be due to the tourism on both sides. Both countries seem to attract tourists, the Lebanese like the Ukraine and the Ukranians like Lebanon and other Arab destinations.






User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Another factor contributing to the increasing demand between Lebanon & Eastern European countries is the unified Euro currency in the Western Europe destinations.The Eastern European countries,in addition to Turkey,are becoming popular with Lebanese tourists since they can afford the trip,which is most of the times much cheaper than that to Western Europe.

MEA310



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User currently offlineCedarwings From Lebanon, joined Apr 2004, 216 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

UMAir is flying 3 charter flights weekly to Simforopol due to the increase number of Lebanese tourists to Yalta city on the black sea.






I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
User currently offlineCedarwings From Lebanon, joined Apr 2004, 216 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Latest Menajet news:

In a direct phone call with Captain Mikkawi (Menajet CEO), he informed me that Menajet has started in days to operate charter flights for Nakhal tourism agency, to Turkey, Spain, Austria, France Greece and Italy. Tickets on this airline are still not for public sales, however he wishes that Menajet will receive the authorization from the Lebanese government to function as a low cost airline based in Beirut very soon.





I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Cedarwings,

Your input on menaJet is much appreciated. Does this mean that they've been able to get the A320(s)?

On the other hand, if it's UM Air flying operating the Simferopol flights, it explains the A320. They must be utilizing that single Airbus to its full to be able to carry out so many flights to Beirut and to their European destinations.


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Gentlemen,

I may be visiting Beirut this summer. I will have to go Hong Kong late July from Beirut for about a week to 10 days and then back to Beirut fora couple of days or so before heading back to Toronto.

Do you think I should book my flight now (I could get it with EK for $1100 US), or do you think I sould book it in Beirut (maybe cheaper....)

Thanks


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