AZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 765 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4030 times:
I had never heard of this one, but in Monday's Kalamazoo Gazette there will be a special article about the crash of Northwest Airlines Flight 2501. From looking it up, I have found that it was a DC-4 flying from New York City to Minneapolis. The plane was lost on June 27, 1950 off the coast of South Haven, Michigan (just under 40 miles West of Kalamazoo) with 58 people on board.
I will try to post a link to the story tomorrow, but I work until 10pm and the newspaper is not published until the afternoon so I will not be able to do it in the morning. If someone else wants to grab it here first, by all means go ahead.
Tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2297 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3594 times:
The Grand Rapids Press had an extensive article about this accident in the Sunday, June 20, 2004 paper. I checked the archives, and since it's beyond two weeks, a fee is required to purchase the entire story. Since I've read it, I don't need to spend the $2.00.
Into thin air ; Decades later, lake still holds clues about Flight 2501:[All Editions]
Pat Shellenbarger / The Grand Rapids Press. The Grand Rapids Press. Grand Rapids, Mich.: Jun 20, 2004. pg. J.1
Companies: Michigan Shipwreck Research Associates, Northwest Airlines Inc(Ticker:NWA, NAICS: 481111, Duns:00-696-3508 )
Text Word Count 1466
Abstract (Article Summary)
This one obviously was larger, and it was coming close to her South Haven home. [Jacqueline Eldred] listened as the sound of its engines increased, then stopped, and she pulled the sheet over her head, fearing the plane would hit the house. Then the engines restarted, and, as the sound faded into the distance over Lake Michigan, she heard a loud boom, then silence.
Here's a link to the search engine if anyone's interested- type "Into Thin Air" which was the name of the article:
Quite an interesting article- some group hopes to locate the wreckage with high tech equipment. I'm sure major components (engines) would still be somewhat intact. The article had interviews of people that heard the low flying DC-4 overhead, heard a loud thud, then silence.
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3570 times:
>>>Weren't there a few other 727 crashes in the mid to late 60's that were blamed for excessive sink rate?
There were at least a couple that I recall. I grew up in Cincinnati and someone (AA, I think) lost one on approach into CVG in the 1960s. United also had one hit the runway and slide/burn at SLC.
The United 727 into Lake Michigan could have theoretically involved the same sink rate factors (of the then-new aircraft type) with maybe some of the factors from the 1970s National Airlines 727 crash offshore from PNS (both night approach/descents over water). United also lost a 727 offshore of LAX (loss of electrical power/horizon info, IIRC), so that's a possibility too I reckon.
Someone once told me that this United LAX accident was the instigator of having independently-power standby attitude indicators as a requirement, and while I don't know that for sure, it makes sense.