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WestJet Announces Add'l USA Destinations  
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4938 times:

WestJet Announces Additional United States Destinations!


JULY 6, 2004 - 11:00:10 ET
CALGARY, ALBERTA--(CCNMatthews - Jul 6, 2004) - WestJet today announced
the addition of three new cities in the United States to its network:
Tampa, Florida; New York, New York; and Palm Springs, California.

WestJet will begin non-stop service between Toronto and Tampa, and
Toronto and New York in fall 2004. WestJet will begin non-stop service
between Calgary and Palm Springs in January 2005.

WestJet will also begin non-stop service between Toronto and Orlando,
and Toronto and Fort Lauderdale in October 2004, and non-stop service
between Vancouver and Los Angeles in December 2004.

- Effective September 20, 2004, WestJet will offer 12 non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Toronto and New York (LaGuardia) with
low introductory one-way fares of $49.

- Effective October 1, 2004, WestJet will offer six non-stop flights per
week in each direction between Toronto and Orlando with low introductory
one-way fares of $59.

- Effective October 31, 2004, WestJet will offer four non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Toronto and Fort Lauderdale with low
introductory one-way fares of $59.

- Effective October 31, 2004, WestJet will offer four non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Toronto and Tampa with low
introductory one-way fares of $59.

- Effective December 19, 2004, WestJet will offer six non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Vancouver and Los Angeles with low
introductory one-way fares of $69.

- Effective January 7, 2005, WestJet will offer two non-stop flights per
week in each direction between Calgary and Palm Springs with low
introductory one-way fares of $59.

Introductory fares are available for sale until July 12, 2004 for travel
between the launch of service and December 15, 2004 to New York, Tampa,
Fort Lauderdale, and Orlando. Introductory fares are available for sale
until July 12, 2004 for travel between the launch of service and
February 28, 2005 to Palm Springs and Los Angeles. Seats at these fares
are limited and some restrictions apply. Connections to destinations in
the United States are available through Calgary and Toronto from most
WestJet Canadian destinations.

Clive Beddoe, WestJet's President and CEO, said today, "I am very
pleased to announce the second phase of our transborder schedule launch
which includes service between the major Canadian and American business
centres of Toronto and New York. The support of our initial phase of our
U.S. market launch, which includes flights to San Francisco, Los
Angeles, Phoenix, Orlando, and Fort Lauderdale, has been outstanding
with Canadians taking advantage of the opportunity to fly their airline
of choice, with low fares, to many great sunshine destinations.

"These new destinations will enhance the scope of our operations as
we strive to be the airline of choice for low fare, comfortable, fun
service between Canada and the U.S.A."

Details of WestJet's new transborder schedule and fares are available on
www.westjet.com and flights can be booked today. A complete list of
WestJet's schedule changes is available in the accompanying New Schedule
Backgrounder.

In conjunction with these schedule changes, WestJet will be also be
increasing frequencies on many routes in its existing transborder and
domestic route network.


"Talk to me, Goose..."
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User currently offlineAirlineFanatic From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4731 times:

LGA! YEAH YEAH YEAH...

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4593 times:

- Effective October 31, 2004, WestJet will offer four non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Toronto and Fort Lauderdale with low
introductory one-way fares of $59.

This is very good for 4 pre weekly service from YYZ-FLL and would be good with WS. I am sure will competition of AC already service to FLL, right?


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Excellent! Competition against AC is always good.

This renders AC's recent business plan outdated and inaccurate for any revenue/yield projections on these routes, particularly YYZ-LGA.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4462 times:

With destination like Tampa, Orlando, Ft Lauderdale, Palm Springs it looks like WJ is entering full speed into the leisure market. I wish then good luck although I think they are stretching themselves a little too much.

I was hoping to see more like Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton to Chicago/New York/Denver/Boston/Minneapolis/Washington.

Everyone seem to have Toronto on sharp focus these days !






User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

I know LGA is preferred for the shorter business routes, but I figured some airline would eventually give YYZ-JFK a go. Esp. since LGA has 3 other airlines operating this route.


727, L1011, MD80, A300, 777-200, 737-300, 737-700, 747-400, 757-200, 737-800, A320. E190, E135, 767-200, CRJ9
User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4309 times:

I was hoping to see something out of YEG, especially to SFO,LAX and maybe ORD. And also YVR-SFO, PHX and ORD, too.

You can bet that YEG's airport authority will harp at WestJet to put in a nonstop transborder route or two out of YEG, preferably to the US airports I mentioned. Especially when AC doesn't give a rat's ass about YEG and America West's CRJ-700/900s not being exactly a popular aircraft with passengers comfort-wise on long routes over 2 hours.


User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

Can anyone confirm that they actually have the LGA slots...12 is an a lot...


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineA380 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 658 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

Wonder when they will open up YYZ-LAS?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4203 times:

Can anyone confirm that they actually have the LGA slots...12 is an a lot... K

I was wondering that also Slawko. They had applied for 12 daily slots (sufficient for 6 daily flights) but I heard no word on whether they have been approved.





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineWestJetYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Well since they are selling seats on the above mentioned flights, you can that they have the slots to operate them! lol  Smile

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4156 times:

HAHA You would think, but I would be surprised if they got 12 slots, or any yet for that matter. Remember Canada World a few years back? They started to sell tickets without an OC.


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Guys,

Read it again......

Effective September 20, 2004, WestJet will offer 12 non-stop flights
per week in each direction between Toronto and New York (LaGuardia) with
low introductory one-way fares of $49.


It's 12 flights per WEEK, not per DAY. I would imagine each flight operates 6X per week, with alternating SATs and SUNs off.



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

It's 12 flights per WEEK, not per DAY. I would imagine each flight operates 6X per week, with alternating SATs and SUNs off.

Yes, we know that. Westjet still applied for 12 DAILY slots to LGA, enough for 6 dailies.

It appears they have only been granted 12 weekly slots, or have chosen to commence LGA ops with fewer than 6 dailies.





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

I went to their web site and tried to book travel from LGA-YYZ, but it doesn't give me an option to originate my travel in the U.S.

Is it me, am I crazy,or is there a problem?



User currently offlineWestJetYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

That's a good question Spinkid... I would try calling our sales centre and see if they can't help you.

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

Where does it say LGA? All I read is 'New York' which could also mean JFK or EWR.

Why does this stupid spell checker always suggest 'egotist' as a replacement for WestJet? I could understand it being offered as a substitute for 'Beddoes' Big grin


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

This renders AC's recent business plan outdated and inaccurate for any revenue/yield projections on these routes, particularly YYZ-LGA.

How do you know what provisions are included in AC's business plan regarding additional competition over the next few years?

As for YYZ-New York/Newark, there are currently about 30 flights a day each way, of which AC/Jazz has about a dozen. I can't see WS's 2 flights a day having much of an impact.



User currently offlineTennisace From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Okay, does anyone else think that Westjet is starting to spread itself a little thin here? Getting a little to big for its britches? They're going head to head with Jetsgo, Canjet and of course Air Canada on A LOT of routes now. I don't think we'll see the level of growth/yield that we've been used. Not that I'm 'anti-Westjet'...............it's just I don't think all this expansion by the Canadian airlines is sustainable.

User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1721 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

To all of you Edmontonians....

Please boycott WestJet. Edmonton has been supportung Westjet ever since its inception. The new schedules keep coming out and Edmonton has not seen anything for years from WestJet.

Everything is out of Calgary and Toronto.....

I just flew WestJet (YYZ-YEG) and back last week. For the price that is higher than Air Canada, not woth the support anymore.....


User currently offlineFiedman From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

Yegbey01 Westjet is based out of Calgary and Toronto that's why everything is out of there, yes, true there might be a demand for flights from Edmonton to the new US destinations but the airline would make more money if they route flights to the US through either Calgary or Toronto. And I am sure that people in Regina or even Winnipeg are saying the same thing about there cities about being left out of this don't just think that this is just an Edmonton problem.


Westjet - Canada's National Low-fare Airline
User currently offlineJayce From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Fiedman-WS is based out of Calgary only. YYZ is their eastern hub, but not a base.

I think the routes make sense. After all, they are in business to make money, and if the money is from YYZ then good for them for recognizing that and going after it.

I'm glad to see them on the YVR-LAX run. By a rough count (from the YVR website), that makes 101 flights per week each way between YVR and LAX.



"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

As for YYZ-New York/Newark, there are currently about 30 flights a day each way, of which AC/Jazz has about a dozen. I can't see WS's 2 flights a day having much of an impact.

It's a foothold in the market, from which Westjet will grow.

Where does it say LGA? All I read is 'New York' which could also mean JFK or EWR.

In the press release: Effective September 20, 2004, WestJet will offer 12 non-stop flights per week in each direction between Toronto and New York (LaGuardia) with low introductory one-way fares of $49.

Okay, does anyone else think that Westjet is starting to spread itself a little thin here? Getting a little to big for its britches? They're going head to head with Jetsgo, Canjet and of course Air Canada on A LOT of routes now. I don't think we'll see the level of growth/yield that we've been used. Not that I'm 'anti-Westjet'...............it's just I don't think all this expansion by the Canadian airlines is sustainable.

I'll agree with you when WS start losing money. If any airline is spread thin, it's AC -- AC is bankrupt and close to liquidation.

Please boycott WestJet. Edmonton has been supportung Westjet ever since its inception. The new schedules keep coming out and Edmonton has not seen anything for years from WestJet.

So, you're saying that WS needs to be taught a lesson? That WS is somehow deliberately avoiding YEG expansion? Nonsense. It's based on market demand. When YEG warrants addl service, WS will provide it. The market place may not be pretty to home-town advocates, but it does rule.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

HEHE Looks like a YULvsYYZ war is starting out west too!!! GO CALGARY!!!  Big grin


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineMontanaFL From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

Just read the news in the Tampa Tribune about WestJet coming into TPA. I love to see new airlines come into TPA just wish we could get something larger than the 767's and single BA 777. Oh, forgot the daily Fed Ex DC-10.

Even before the Lightning played Calgary for the Stanley Cup, I wanted t make a trip out there. On TV, pictures, etc, Calgary looks like a beautiful place to visit. I have yet to step foot in Canada and hope that Calgary will be the first place there to visit.

Maybe one day there could be enough volume for a non-stop TPA-YYC.

Thanks WestJet, hope we in TPA can make it worth your efforts here.



I miss those DL L-1011's
25 AirAmericaC46 : Cool! Love to see WestJet into LGA. Anybody knows if it will be then possible to fly Coast to Coast say LGA to LAX on West Jet via Canada with fares s
26 YEGspotter : As much as I also would like to see some direct flights out of YEG to the US destinations, I understand why there isn't any. Any major airline will wo
27 Samurai 777 : One has to remember that WS's main hubs are YYC and YYZ, so it's going to take time for YEG to get any new nonstops. I know the demand's out there in
28 CanadaEH : Not that I'm 'anti-Westjet'...............it's just I don't think all this expansion by the Canadian airlines is sustainable. Growth by Canadian carri
29 Post contains images CanadaEH : Thought I'd add that our bookings for all of our destinations has been absolutely PHENOMINAL! Our Sales Center is being swamped with calls out our tra
30 Yyz717 : Growth by Canadian carriers is not sustainable, and one's bubble will burst, most likely in this winter or spring. Domestic capacity alone is up 20% y
31 CanadaEH : There is a lot of capacity being added into the market. Westjet is adding 11 aircraft next year with options on 45 more. Jetsgo is still adding F100's
32 Post contains images Olympus69 : In the press release: Effective September 20, 2004, WestJet will offer 12 non-stop flights per week in each direction between Toronto and New York (La
33 Yyz717 : Air Canada at least has the international market to subsidize its losses in the domestic market If true, this is a poor strategy. All markets should p
34 Captaingomes : Just like in the YYZ-YUL-YOW triangle, I don't believe Westjet will really create a dent in AC's business on trans-border routes. Incidentally, Westje
35 Yyz717 : Air Canada, with its frequencies, plus incomparable services beyond YYZ and other hubs onwards on the Star Alliance network, will continue to capture
36 Captaingomes : It's a profit game, not a market share game. I agree Neil, however I still believe the LCC's at least in the near term will be filling their own niche
37 Jetpixx : This is outstanding news! $59 to YYZ from FLL and getting to see WestJet on a regular basis only 30 min. away!
38 Iowaman : Effective January 7, 2005, WestJet will offer two non-stop flights per week in each direction between Calgary and Palm Springs with low introductory o
39 CO737800 : Lots of Canadians live in Palm Springs and the surrounding areas. The will do well on that run.
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