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United Launches Daily Nonstop Between DEN And DCA  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4407 times:
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The new service is flown using a Boeing 757 with 180 seats - 24 in United First and 158 in United Economy. United flight 484 departs Denver at 10:15 a.m. and arrives in Washington at 3:32 p.m. From Reagan National, United flight 583 departs at 5:00 p.m., arriving in Denver at 6:53 p.m.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040706/cgtu078_1.html

This service has been needed for a while now.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

And what is Frontier, chopped liver? Frontier already offers two flights a day DEN-DCA, so United has one now, B.F.D.


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

B.F.D my ass, Srbmod. It is a much needed flight for UA's West Coast frequent flyers--DEN is a much easier connection than ORD! More flights from West Coast cities to DEN at a better frequency.

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineLat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

I wonder if there will be weight restrictions in either direction. United's motive for introducing this flight at this particular time is obvious. I hope Frontier can withstand this predatory move by an old dinosaur.

User currently offline777ualsfo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

This route was part of the recent release of several DCA routes, Frontier also got some new routes out of this as did several other airlines. DCA is important for UAL's customers as many find DCA more convenient than IAD. Many do choose the highly networked carriers - others like the Frontier and others with a smaller route structure. More info - http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-04-01-reagan-national_x.htm

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4116 times:

Can you anyone need know about load factor was doing their way to DEN today?

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

B.F.D. srbmod,
If it wasn't for F9 being a small carrier, they to would just be starting service.

The perimeter rule gave F9 a head start. Now comes the big boys!!!


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineMattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4045 times:

Not to mention UA already has a HUGE presence in IAD. They are already the largest carrier in the Washington area. This new flight will further solidify this position. UA has many frequent fliers who are extremely excited UA has this new route. Just one more way to earn miles for trips to Australia, Asia, Europe, South America, and many other places Frontier cannot take you.

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Very well put mattnrsa, it will be nice to see how it all works out.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3939 times:

I wonder if there will be weight restrictions in either direction.

Why would there be? The 757 is more than adequate to operate this reasonably short flight with a full load.

UA has many frequent fliers who are extremely excited UA has this new route.

I'm one of them. I HATE driving to Dulles, and I hate dealing with that airport now post-9/11 and with all the construction.

N


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3920 times:
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Mattnrsa:

"...to earn miles for trips to Australia, Asia, Europe, South America and many other places Frontier cannot take you."

Hmmm?

Frontier FF miles may not get you to South America, but they will get you to the UK, India, Africa, Asia and, as of December, to Australia, via Hong Kong.

Just - fyi.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3860 times:
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I wonder if there will be weight restrictions in either direction.

Why would there be? The 757 is more than adequate to operate this reasonably short flight with a full load.


Because DCA has short runways!


User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

GIGNEIL,
I always thought of you as so anti-UNITED. You are a frequent flyer on UAL? Guess we leave room in our days for a shock like this.


UAL 767 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 548 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

F9 will offer 3 daily flights beginning July 18th.

It's always great to have different carriers on a route. Competition isn't always bad. It gives travelers more choices, and stimulates market conditions.

Way to go UA!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy This is an awesome addition to their already large number of DEN-IAD and DEN-BWI flights.

Happy flying!

Travis/LAX


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

I always thought of you as so anti-UNITED

What?!

I never speak ill of United. I only fly United. I only fly other carriers when absolutely necessary.

N


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22303 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

If TZ can fly MDW-SJU without weight restrictions (at least I've never heard of weight restrictions on this flight) with a 752, I don't know why UA should have any trouble with DCA-DEN. There will be headwinds, but it's a 600 mile shorter trip and UA's 752s are lower density. (180 seats vs. 200 in TZ's 752s)


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineJc5280 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 530 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3608 times:

We appreciate your business Gigneil...

But there can be weight restrictions regardless of distance and the fact that its a 757. Denver's heat this time of year is a big contributor to weight restrictions.

The loads have been light...


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22303 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Keep in mind, though, that DEN has substantially longer runways than DCA. Jc5280- Do any 752 routes from DEN regularly go out weight restricted in the summer?


I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

GIGNEIL,
Another A.NETTER and I were talking and we thought you were anti-UAL. I always tied you in with CO, my bad.


UAL 727 CONTRAIL


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

"United's motive for introducing this flight at this particular time is obvious."

DEN/DCA was the last thing United wanted. They wanted SFO first and foremost, and as second prize had a backup request for DEN to piss in F9's cornflakes. Now UA is competing on the same route with someone who has a better schedule, lower prices, and a lower CASM--not really part of UA's plan.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

Maverick,
explain how F9 has a better schedule? UAL Only has ONE flight, F9 has several. Hopeful UAL will get the SFO flight (didn't know they put in for it)
and maybe add another flight using the a320.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24635 posts, RR: 86
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3465 times:
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Ual777contrail:

For what it's worth, I think UAL should have been awarded the SF flight. However, it can't happen now.

At least, it can't happen until Congress authorizes more beyond perimeter flights/slots from DCA - we're probably looking at about two or three years before that happens.

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

DCA-SFO? *DROOLS*... unfortunately it won't happen.

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

I too am confused about the weight restriction issue. I have flown on jam-packed 757s in and out of DCA several times, and it never seemed to be an issue.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineSEptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3430 times:

TWA flew DCA-LAX nonstop.


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25 Jc5280 : The jam packed 757s in and out of DCA were probably to closer destinations. 757s can get weight restricted for various reasons. It depends on too many
26 Iowaman : TWA flew DCA-LAX nonstop. I wonder if that was weight restricted in the summer?
27 Lat41 : TWA flew DCA to LAX on what equipment? Regarding the Denver route. On Summer's steamy Northern VA days, It's hard to believe that there will not have
28 Gigneil : TWA flew DCA to LAX on what equipment? TW flew DCA-LAX nonstop daily with a 757. N
29 Post contains images Mikkel777 : The new service is flown using a Boeing 757 with 180 seats - 24 in United First and 158 in United Economy. Soooo... what's new in calculus?
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