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AirTran 737s: Why No Winglets?  
User currently offlineFlamant15 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

I had read this in the past, and I apologize if there was already a topic about this, but how come AirTran is not putting winglets on its new 737-700s?

I seem to remember something about space next to other 717s or 737s but I could not remember.

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User currently offlineType-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 5033 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

Winglets are optional equipment. But they can be added on later, if desired.
Recently at Boeing we saw two WN 737's being built, one had winglets the other didn't. When we asked about this this is what we were told.



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User currently offlineATL2CDG From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 296 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Flamant15:

To my knowledge, those aircraft being purchased directly by AirTran will not have winglets; aircraft purchased by (I believe) GECAS and leased by AirTran will have winglets. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, for future reference, the search tool is quite a helpful feature.



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User currently offlineFlamant15 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

I know winglets are an option. I am asking why AirTran decided not have them installed on their planes. Southwest has decided to retrofit all their old 737-700s and all new planes will have them installed.

I seem to recall that AirTran had a specific reason for not having them installed, but I cannot remember what the reason.


User currently offlineAirplanePeanut From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1457002/6/

Enjoy!

Bobbyy


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

See? It is already discussions into the forum while ago and I am sure you can very helpful with their -700.

User currently offlineFlamant15 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Thanks AirplanePeanut,

So we have two answers:
1. Cost reasons
2. They won't fit at ATL

I don't believe it is a cost issue due to the fact that southwest is getting them and Aviation Partners Boeing says they practically pay for themselves.

As for not fitting in ATL, now that AirTran is the number 2 airline in Atlanta, don't you think they could work something out to get more terminal space or more gates at a different terminal to make 717s fit next to the 737s.


User currently offlineAirplanePeanut From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

No Problem
Personnaly, I think THey Should Try To get Some ASA/COMAIR gates in the rest of Concourse C. But Concourse D would be a nice place to expand for their 73G's

Ill Be flying in ATL tommorow, so I hope I can Get to Concourse D to check It out.

 Laugh out loudBobby Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineFlamant15 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

I just hope that eventually AirTran adds the winglets to its fleet since I know it will save them money in the long run.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

I just think it was that they looked at the airport that would be serving these new a/c and found that there wasn't any gate space.... I would be nice to see a NG737 in those colors with winglets. Then again now that they are being used so much any 737 w/o winglets looks crappy!

UA777222



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

There is of course the most important reason apart from cost and gate space:

- On flights under about 2 hours the winglets' added weight is a larger penalty than the fuel savings they produce.



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