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The Crew Of TWA Flight 800  
User currently offlineUsair320 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 991 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21984 times:

hi there, i was just wondering who some of the crew were from flight 800 all i know of is captain steve snyder. because there isnt much online about them.

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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6814 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21855 times:

Here is the complete listing. This is from the Washington Post online.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/twa800/list01.htm

Let us never forget all 230 souls who perished on July 17, 1996. May God always keep them in His hand, and give comfort to their families.

And lest we forget: let us always be vigilant of future acts of terror and give us the resolve to respond as necessary. Godspeed 800...


Callas, Dan J. , 22, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Philadelphia

Campbell, Richard G. , 63, TWA Flight 800 flight engineer, of Ridgefield, Conn.

Charbonnier, Jacques, 66, TWA flight 800 crew, of Northport, N.Y.

Charbonnier, Constance, 49, TWA flight 800 crew, of Northport, N.Y.

Christopher, Janet, 48, TWA flight 800 crew, of Brodheadsville, Pa.

DiLuccio, Debra Collins, 47, TWA flight 800 crew, of Agropoli, Italy; formerly of Athens, Ga.

Johnsen, Arlene E. , 60, TWA Flight 800 flight attendant, owned a bed and breakfast, of Grand Junction, Colo.

Kevorkian, Capt. Ralph G. , 58, TWA Flight 800 pilot, of Garden Grove, Calif.

Krick, Oliver, 25, TWA Flight 800 flight engineer, of St. Louis.

Lang, Raymond, 51, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Tafton, Pa.

Lockhart, Maureen, 49, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Merriam, Kan.

Meade, Sandra, 42, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Camano Island, Wash.

Melotin, Grace, 48, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Corona, N.Y.; Jupiter, Fla.

Rhoads, Marit, 48, TWA Flight 800 crew, Bellevue, Wash. (married to Scott Rhoads)

Schuldt, Michael, 51, TWA Flight 800 Crew, Safety Harbor, Fla.

Snyder, Capt. Steven, 57, TWA Flight 800 pilot, Stratford, Conn.

Torche, Melinda, 47, TWA Flight 800 crew, Mission Viejo, Calif.

Ziemkiewicz, Jill, 24, TWA Flight 800 crew, of Rutherford, N.J.


Additionally, these were off-duty TWA employees who were also onboard:

Aikens-Bellamy, Sandra, 49, off-duty TWA employee, of New York City

Braman-Mosberg, Rosemary, 47, off-duty TWA employee, of Hoboken, N.J

Carven, Paula, off-duty TWA flight attendant and part-time real-estate agent, of Bel Air, Md. (son, Jay Carven, age 9 also aboard)

Dodge, Warren, 50, off-duty TWA employee, of Brentwood, N.H., and Ashland, Mass.

Edwards, Daryl, 41, off-duty TWA service supervisor, Jersey City, N.J.

Eshleman, Douglas A. , 35, off-duty TWA flight engineer, of Aurora, Colo.

Gough, Analei Ralli, off-duty TWA flight attendant, of Mill Valley, Calif. (married to Donald Gough)

Gough, Capt. Donald, off-duty TWA pilot, of Mill Valley, Calif., and Incline Village, Nev. (married to Analei Gough)

Griffith, Joanne, 39, off-duty TWA employee, of Brooklyn, N.Y.

Harkness, Eric, 23, off-duty TWA employee, of Columbus, Ohio.

Hull, James, 48, off-duty TWA employee, of Southampton, Pa.

Ingenhuett, Lonnie, 43, off-duty TWA employee, of Scottsdale, Ariz.

Kwan, Barbara, 40, off-duty TWA employee, of Scottsdale, Ariz.

Loffredo, Elaine, 50, off-duty TWA employee, of Glastonbury, Conn.

Luevano, Jr., Elias, 42, off-duty TWA employee, of Albuquerque, N.M.

McPherson, Pamela Cobb, 45, off-duty TWA employee, of New York City

Miller, Gideon, 57, off-duty TWA pilot, of Sarasota, Fla.

Rhoads, Scott, 48, schoolteacher, Bellevue, Wash. (married to Marit Rhoads).

Simmons, Olivia, 50, schoolteacher and off-duty part-time TWA employee, Orange, N.J.

Verhaeghe, Rick L. , off-duty TWA flight officer, 48, Goldsboro, N.C.




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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21807 times:

http://twa800.com/pages/victims.htm


http://twa800.com/index.htm

Andy



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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 21508 times:

Wow, I didn't realize how many non-Revs were on TWA 800. I can't imagine how much of a blow it was on company morale, losing so many senior employees.

Also, it was shocking how old most of the employees were. TWA really was filled with oldtimers. RIP.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 21389 times:
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If I remember right there was a crew being repositioned on board this flight.


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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21295 times:

May they all rest in peace.  Sad

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 21254 times:

Im not religous, but I hope and know they are at peace  Sad

Mike/SE



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6814 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 21182 times:

Rest in peace indeed. And may we also pray that we get closure and justice to the families...with the anniversary 10 days from now, you can bet there will be more discussion about the truth of the tragedy.

User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4261 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 21107 times:

What, is it 2006? Slider, you mean the 8th anniversary is just days away.

I'll always remember the horrible summer of 1996 because it was a tough one for the US (and worldwide) aviation community. In May, there was the ValuJet crash which claimed 110 or so lives, and then TWA 800 snatched another 230 from us.

I remember July 17, 1996, very well as it was a typical hot, humid and sweaty night here in Southern New England. I remember looking at the sinking sun that night, unaware of the horror that was unfolding in the skies less than 50 miles from me. I always think about the school group from Pennsylvania that was on-board that night - it is something that I think about every now and again because it is just so tragic and so sad. I also think about the crew and how they powerless they were to prevent such an awful event. I have spoken with former TWA flight attendants and they usually knew most, if not all, of the crew that was lost. They describe unbelievable grief that surrounded TWA in the days after the crash and yet they still had to go to work on put on a brave face. I'm sure the accident also contributed (or hastened) the demise of a great airline.

God Bless all on TWA 800, 7/17/96.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineMattCLE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20981 times:

I was 14 at the time, and I remember I was in my bedroom listening to the radio (Q-104 to be exact) and I remember the male DJ saying a 747 had exploded after take off from JFK. I went downstairs and told my sister, who was watching TV at the time, to turn on CNN. The first images I saw was the burning wreckage in the water. I remember the next morning watching CNN the whole day. I can't believe it's going on 8 years.

-Matt


User currently offlineCx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20927 times:

What actually happened on the TWA800 flight??

User currently offlineTheflcowboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20778 times:

NTSB says chaffed wiring heated the center fuel tank which ignited vapors in the empty tank.


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User currently offlineCx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 20766 times:

But wasn't there some speculation about Terrorist bombings or something like that?

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20441 times:

Both I and friend I have in the military think that it had something to do with a missile test that was going on at the time of the incident. If you look at the a/c when it's put together its funny how there's a big hole in the damn thing... Hmmmmm bad wiring. And let's see how many other 747's are having this issue??????

RIP to the many fine and innocent soles lost on that tragic day. I too remember seeing the flames in the water at night and just thinking it was some oil spill then to later find out the bad news..

UA777222



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User currently offlineBristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20297 times:

UA777222, if the wires had ignited fumes (as per Theflcowboy's reply) then there would have been an explosion that caused the hole.

BF



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20208 times:

And my next ? is how many other 747's have had this issue. I find it very impossible to have just one large jetliner with just one issue. It's not like they hire one crew to build one a/c then just dump them and then rehire for the next a/c. How many of the same a/c were grounded until they could be inspected in the same area. How unlike anyother day was this day? You can't blame it all on the a/c b/c this is unseen any where else and I don't recall this a/c being any different from that of the other xx amount the rolled off the assembly line at Boeing.

Yes I guess if the wires burnt they would cause a whole but just as much as you can say that you can say a missile will shoot a hole right through a 747....

UA777222



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User currently offlinePlaneviewnyc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 20184 times:

I remember walking home from my friend's house that very hot and muggy night here in Queens, a few miles from JFK. We had rented a movie or something and had not heard any news. During that 10 minute walk, perhaps around 11pm, I noticed how eerily still the air was, and how quiet the neighborhood was. When I got home, I happened to turn on the radio and heard the horrible news. I'm not one for premonitions, but that night I sure had a weird feeling walking home before I had known what had happened.

The following week, I learned that a hockey teammate of mine was meant to be on Flight 800 with his family, connecting in Paris for a trip to Rome. They had changed their reservation to a direct flight only a couple of days before.  Wow!


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 20123 times:

The next day, July 18th, I flew on Carnival Airlines JFK-FLL. They used Terminal 6 at JFK, TWA's domestic terminal. I remember checking in that morning and how utterly sad the whole scene was. Many of the agents had friends on TWA 800 and there were still family members flying in--A horribly sad time.

I do believe the stories that the military accidentally shot down TWA 800. There is just too much evidence. The Navy was testing a new SAM missile that night, the photos at the Long Island beach of missile streaks in the air, a small blip appearing right next to TW 800 before the explosion, and more. There are several books on the topic.

What I also find very convincing is that the rumors surfaced immediately. This isn't something that came up months later. From the night it went down, the press and many people were talking about the possibility of it having been shot down. It was only later that the center fuel tank explosion became the "accepted reason"


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 19491 times:

What books would members of the forum suggest provide the best theories and explanations for the TWA 800 accident? I am unconvinced that the accident was caused by an igniting centre fuel tank as if this was the case surely all other 747s would have been grounded for checks?


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User currently offlineAa717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 19156 times:

Over 150 witnesses along the beach on Long Island reported seeing an object streaking up in the sky prior to the explosion. They ranged from military pilots to all kinds of professional people. They were ALL interrogated by the FBI and told they must be mistaken. Insane

NONE of their testimony was presented at the NTSB hearing. The conventional wisdom around TWA was that this was an attempt by terrorists on the EL AL flight immediately ahead of 800 that missed. The Clinton administration(or any other administration for that matter) could not possibly have admitted that terrorists could possess SAM's with that capability(although we all know they are available for a price).

The sad and disgusting legacy of Flight 800 was apparent to more than a few TWA employees(including myself and my wife) who shamefully admitted that when the second airplane hit the WTC on 9/11 our first thought was "well, at least they can't say it was an accident."

This thread brings back memories and emotions of a time that ended up derailing TWA's financial recovery and forcing us back to Carl Icahn for money.

More than that, the incident with its attendant bad press coverage and negative image of TWA broke the spirit of so many who had labored so long to help our beloved airline right itself. ALL of us knew several people on that flight. Twenty percent of those killed were employees or relatives. My daughter later travelled to France with her schoolmates--my heart goes out to the parents of those with the school group from Pennsylvania who were on 800.

 Sad  SadTC
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User currently offlineCanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 19052 times:

The most sobering story I heard about this flight was from someone who worked at JFK when this happened. He said that the TW crew not only heard about the crash, but they had to check-in and board the TLV flight after knowing what had happened to Flight 800. I cannot even imagine what they felt, knowing they had closed the door on almost 300 people who died, then had to keep working.....


The beatings will continue until morale improves
User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 19005 times:

It was an accident. Fuel/vapour tank explosions under similar circumstances are certainly not a new phenomenon. Read the NTSB report - they were exhaustive in reaching their conclusion, and they were quite literally delayed by the constant conspiracy theories being flung about.


Can't these people be allowed to rest in peace?



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User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 18641 times:

There are too many whistle blowers in the USA. If they had any evidence it was a missile, surely several people on the "inside" would have come forward by now to expose the truth. This isn't the old Eastern bloc where you can hide something that big.

My only conspiracy theory was maybe it was someone on board like the guy a few years ago who tried to light up a plastic explosive in his sneaker on an AA transatlantic flight. If your sitting over the center tanks, a small explosive could do that damage. TWA 800 happened well before that AA incident. I'm sure, however, the FBI and whoever did serious backround checks of everyone on that ill fated flight.


User currently offlineJfkviaphx From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 18565 times:

I was sitting in my cousins boat on LI Sound watching all the fireworks that night. When we arrived back at the dock his girlfriend met us there and told us the news. My GF at the time was with me on the boat and had to cater the PA children's families memorial service.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 18348 times:

If your sitting over the center tanks, a small explosive could do that damage.

It's pretty hard to blow a hole through a bulhead, even a thin one.

Even if you did blow that hole, jet fuel is resonably hard to ignite.

The investigation even saw how one of the baffles in the tank had crashed into the one front bulkhead. Wouldn't a missile have been more likely to hit an engine. This of course assumes it was heatseeking. In case of an optically guided one, it's a different story, but the plane was pretty high up and to get to that altitude you need some pretty serious missile hardware. Not something you can hide in a small truck or whatever.



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25 Ezycrew : I had been laid off by TWA a few months before the crash and it broke my heart. Some of the crews were high profile personalities at TWA/JFK, such as
26 Delboy : Scottys Didn't understand a single word of your posting. This topic has been done and redone, why haven't the moderators steered everyone to the orig
27 Md80fanatic : The fact that many here are questioning the official story is quite a revealing tidbit in itself. And I thought the NTSB was vaunted as "godlike" by A
28 HlywdCatft : It was an election year. What do you think a big terrorist attack like that would have done to Clinton's image if they revealed it was a terrorist att
29 Post contains images Starlionblue : It was an election year. What do you think a big terrorist attack like that would have done to Clinton's image if they revealed it was a terrorist att
30 Slider : Well, I know this subject is a sensitive one for many, but I'm here to tell you that I strongly believe that it was in fact an act of terror--ignored
31 Slider : Compliments of Jack Cashill....also, if anyone is interested in various articles that substantiate this act of terrorism, please e-mail me and I'll be
32 Richierich : Wow - that was quite a read, Slider. I don't think we'll ever be satisfied with the "truth" behind TWA 800. If it was truly a center fuel tank explosi
33 FDXmech : >>>The fact that many here are questioning the official story is quite a revealing tidbit in itself.
34 Spacecadet : Jeeze, the conspiracy theorists just will not go away on this one, will they? How many of the conspiracy theorists have actually read the NTSB report?
35 Rjpieces : Some of the crews were high profile personalities at TWA/JFK, such as Jacques and Connie Charbonnier. How were they high profile personalities...? Sli
36 Jfkviaphx : Jet fuel in it's liquid form is hard to ignite. However when it's down to vapors it will go up like the 4th of July. There were minimum requirements r
37 Slider : Richie- Good post, but 13k feet isn't out of reach for a standard Stinger (in fact, Richard Clarke claimed the plane was at 17k feet, totally erroneou
38 Slider : Spacecadet- I forgot to also ask you, if this was an accident, then why hasn't the NTSB responded to over a dozen Freedom of Information Act requests
39 Rjpieces : Do you think it was meant for the El Al flight ahead of it? Why do you think no terrorist group ever took credit for it...And also what about the terr
40 Slider : It actually was claimed by a terrorist group, another fact that is ignored: The slamic Change Movement--they also took responsibility for the Riyadh b
41 Post contains links and images FDXmech : >>>I'm providing a link at the bottom to the work of Jack Cashill, who along with James Sanders, wrote "First Strike," the authoritative book regardin
42 NightFlier : I recall this accident when It happen. My Grandfather and I sat at the television for days and wacthed the events unfold day by day. News 12 Long Isla
43 Thrust : Yesterday or two days ago on the History Channel, on "Engineering Disasters", Flight 800 was included among one of the many fatal ones. The video comp
44 Slider : Yesterday or two days ago on the History Channel, on "Engineering Disasters", Flight 800 was included among one of the many fatal ones. The video comp
45 Rjpieces : It seems pretty clear there to me that there was a missile.....It's just a question of whether the missile was shot at TWA 800 from the terrorists, wa
46 Post contains links FDXmech : >>>here WERE missile traces!! Residue not only from PETN but also several stained seats that correlate to rocket motor fuel. Again, I refer to you the
47 Post contains links BartiniMan : A NTSB video recreation http://twa800.com/videos/breakup.mov 4.3Mb http://www.twa800.com/index.htm BartiniMan
48 Post contains links FDXmech : This NTSB transcript discusses eyewitness accounts. http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/Transcript_8_23_3.htm
49 7673mech : The disaster was truly devastating for TWA. On the morning of the accident we announced the first profits in years. It took the wind out of our sails.
50 ZSSNC : One of my colleagues at SAA was part of the TWA care team. She is absolutely convinced that the plane was shot down and that the official investigatio
51 FDXmech : >>>TWA had 12 757's on order the morning of the accident, we took delivery of 27, how did they get funded? Is it a coincidence that after the accident
52 GARUDAROD : National Geographic had a special a few weeks ago about the United B747 that lost the cargo door in flight. There was a good deal of depth and detail
53 FDXmech : >>>Hence although their report on TW800 is official, it may not contain the truth!
54 GARUDAROD : Yes, I have read the entire report. The conclusions they draw fit well with the information provided, but Im just saying they have a precedent for not
55 Aa717driver : The TWA pilots who were on the ALPA accident investigation team are STILL prohibited from discussing the investigation. A friend was in the TWA safety
56 Slider : Hey AA717- e-mail me ref TW safety dept, k?
57 N905TW : I am all in agreement about letting our fallen passengers and crewmembers rest in peace, and yes, I agree the memorial on Long Island is beautiful, bu
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