Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 38 Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2195 times:
AvCraft says that it is in sales discussions with 50 customers for 275 328Jets and Envoys. The manufacturer hopes to attain 50-60 sales in the next nine months as well as a major announcement at FI'04.
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2166 times:
Size? Mission requirements? Price? Performance? Support? Embraer and Bombraer are only interested in selling their expensive 70/90/100-seaters and no longer their small 30-50 seater. AvCraft does it, and it seems with quite some success. Besides, since when is speed the only criteria?
Planemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 5727 posts, RR: 35 Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
"Embraer and Bombraer are only interested in selling their expensive 70/90/100-seaters and no longer their small 30-50 seater."
Excuse me but your statement is incorrect for the most basic of reasons -- profit. In the case of BBD, the CRJ200 is the most profitable of the 3 RJs they manufacture.
"...with much less lead time than the Embraer or Bombardier products."
Actually, this is not true. Bombardier, for example, has dropped the CRJ200 production rate from 152 last year to around 100 this year, and estimates only 70-80 deliveries next year. There is TONS of capacity for an earlier delivery.
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Pdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1044 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2058 times:
What is the list price for a 328Jet? I imagine its only DIRECT competitor would be the ERJ 135. How much is an ERJ 135? Is there any economic incentive in choosing the 328Jet over the ERJ 135 or vice versa?
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4137 posts, RR: 38 Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2034 times:
List price for the 328JET is around 11 million USD, depending on the source, the ERJ-135 is around 14 million USD, again depending on the source.
@ Planemaker: I correct my statement into "Embraer is only interested in selling their large jets", that fits better. We all know that the only direct jet competitor is the ERJ-135, and not the CRJ440.
Anyone willing to speculate a bit about some of these customers? I´m willing to bet on at least one Australian and one New Zealand customer.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1716 times:
The reason why airlines would want a 328 Jet over a quicker ERJ-135 because its a better turboprop replacement. The 328Jet can fly to airports that the ERJ cannot because the 328Jet doesn't need as much runway to take off and land on.
For example, when Comair retired their Emb-120s out of CVG, Delta Connection used the ACA 328Jets to replace the Comair E120s.
Cumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
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Speed is not the only important thing. You must also take things into consideration such as take off performance, Economics,and capacity. If a market only warrants a 30 seater then why use a 50 seater?