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AvCraft In Talks About 275 328JET!  
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

AvCraft says that it is in sales discussions with 50 customers for 275 328Jets and Envoys. The manufacturer hopes to attain 50-60 sales in the next nine months as well as a major announcement at FI'04.

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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Why would anyone buy a slow 328JET when they can by ERJs and CRJs?

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Size? Mission requirements? Price? Performance? Support? Embraer and Bombraer are only interested in selling their expensive 70/90/100-seaters and no longer their small 30-50 seater. AvCraft does it, and it seems with quite some success. Besides, since when is speed the only criteria?

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User currently offlineEAL727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

I would think that the 328Jets could be delived with much less lead time than the Embraer or Bombardier products. This might prove attractive to prospective customers.


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User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6437 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

"Embraer and Bombraer are only interested in selling their expensive 70/90/100-seaters and no longer their small 30-50 seater."

Excuse me but your statement is incorrect for the most basic of reasons -- profit. In the case of BBD, the CRJ200 is the most profitable of the 3 RJs they manufacture.


"...with much less lead time than the Embraer or Bombardier products."

Actually, this is not true. Bombardier, for example, has dropped the CRJ200 production rate from 152 last year to around 100 this year, and estimates only 70-80 deliveries next year. There is TONS of capacity for an earlier delivery.



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User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

What is the list price for a 328Jet? I imagine its only DIRECT competitor would be the ERJ 135. How much is an ERJ 135? Is there any economic incentive in choosing the 328Jet over the ERJ 135 or vice versa?

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4166 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

List price for the 328JET is around 11 million USD, depending on the source, the ERJ-135 is around 14 million USD, again depending on the source.

@ Planemaker: I correct my statement into "Embraer is only interested in selling their large jets", that fits better. We all know that the only direct jet competitor is the ERJ-135, and not the CRJ440.

Anyone willing to speculate a bit about some of these customers? I´m willing to bet on at least one Australian and one New Zealand customer.

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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

This is interesting. I'm very fond of the 328JET and AvCraft's top notch Top Cub.

User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2614 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Would any of those be US deliveries?

User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Do you mean Air NZ's Saab 340 replacement by any chance?

User currently offlineBelugaboy From Belgium, joined Mar 2001, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2160 times:


VLM Maybe ?

The F50 is a good aircraft but not exactly the youngest around is it ?


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Operating cost wise, do the 328JET aircraft compete closer with the EMB-120 or ERJ-135?

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

The reason why airlines would want a 328 Jet over a quicker ERJ-135 because its a better turboprop replacement. The 328Jet can fly to airports that the ERJ cannot because the 328Jet doesn't need as much runway to take off and land on.

For example, when Comair retired their Emb-120s out of CVG, Delta Connection used the ACA 328Jets to replace the Comair E120s.


User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

@777236ER

Why hunt a rabbit with a rifle when you can use a Grenade Launcher?

Speed is not the only important thing. You must also take things into consideration such as take off performance, Economics,and capacity. If a market only warrants a 30 seater then why use a 50 seater?

That is just my 2 cents


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