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EasyJet Airbus/Boeing Fleet?  
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1917 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Haven't heard peep about the integration of the A-319s into the EasyJet fleet.

They are the first LCC to really break away from the single fleet commonality.

Any news on how it's going. CASM up? Dispatch rates steady?

Just curious how it's working out so far.

George


They're not handing trophies out today
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User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1576 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

I doubt they know the real picture themselves at this time. Airbus are basically absorbing the costs of intergration, so might be some time.

Ruscoe


User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

This is why people call Airbus anti-competative. They give airlines like easyJet and jetBue almost free rides...

User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

And they don't call Boeing anti-competitive?

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 854 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

Flyboy36:
C´moooon! And Boeing´s not???  Nuts
Puuhleezze

Mike



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2847 times:
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Boeing is not anti-competitive. If you want proof look at the USAF tanker deal--that was a display of real competition with the A330 tanker.  Big grin


Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineRwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

I'm sorry but all Airbus are doing is absorbing the costs of changing fleet; this enabled EasyJet to make a decision on whether to go with Boeing or Airbus purely on the merits of each and not have to worry about their existing fleet and how it would impact their costs. If anything, it is very competitive in what they were doing.

As for the orginal question, I flew with them yesterday from London Luton to Glasgow on a 733. I think they are basing the different fleets at their different hubs - so Luton is all Boeing, Paris is all Airbus etc etc...


User currently offlineTrevD From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 335 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

I wish Boeing would offer me the same deal that Airbus threw at EZY. More than 50% off the price and full maintenance and introductory cost protection? Please.

Why do think JetBlue came un-glued and demanded the same? It's that kind of discounting that makes financiers cringe at the Airbus product.


User currently offlineRwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

It does make me laugh the way so many Americans on a.net HATE the way Boeing is now the second largest producer of commercial jets behind Airbus!

The European Union is larger than than the United States economically, so why can't you accept that maybe airlines buy Airbus aircraft because they are very very good aircraft and not because they buy the business?

By the way, I am married to an American, so I love you all really...


User currently offlineMD-11 forever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

@TrevD

Please give me a break!
"I wish Boeing would offer me the same deal that Airbus threw at EZY. More than 50% off the price and full maintenance and introductory cost protection? Please. "
I don't think you had access to the contract, did you? Therefore I don't see you in a position to make such comments........

Cheers, Thomas


User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2783 times:
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MD-11 forever,
Since jetBlue is publicly traded - the contract information for the Airbus aircraft can be found in the SEC filings. They will be usually filed as ammendments to 10-K or 8-K filings.

Try visiting the jetBlue Corporation Information webpage.

I don't know if the UK has the same filing requirements (I know that quarterly reports are not required), but in that case I would assume the information could be determined.



Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1917 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

I'm sorry I asked.

Just wanted to know how crew integration was working. Blah blah.
Since JetBlue is going to be doing roughly the same thing soon, I'm wondering if with a big enough fleet, it won't really damage the typical LCC business plan.

Instead of any of that, I got a lesson on the EU and opinions on Boeing being anti-competitive.

George



They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineRwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

George,

To answer your original question - it appears to be going very well. Their biggest issues affecting profits are high fuel costs and increasing competition in the LCC sector. They announced results on numbers flying etc yesterday:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3872451.stm

I think by changing their fleet by hub it should make it an easier transformation as they can also do it gradually and not have overlap etc etc

I assume they plan on getting rid of all Boeing planes eventually? Especially as some from 'Go' were leased from GE?


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

Just for records, here's the fleet:

B737-300 = 41
B737-700 = 33
A319 = 14/19 (19 including EZS fleet)

B737-300
G-EZYB
G-EZYC
G-EZYD
G-EZYF
G-EZYG
G-EZYH
G-EZYI
G-EZYJ
G-EZYK
G-EZYL
G-EZYM
G-EZYN
G-EZYO
G-EZYP
G-EZYR
G-EZYS
G-EZYT
G-IGOB
G-IGOG
G-IGOH
G-IGOI
G-IGOJ
G-IGOK
G-IGOL
G-IGOM
G-IGOO
G-IGOP
G-IGOR
G-IGOS
G-IGOT
G-IGOU
G-IGOV
G-IGOW
G-IGOX
G-IGOY
G-IGOZ
G-ODUS
G-OFRA
G-OGVA
G-OHAJ
G-OMUC

B737-700
G-EZJA
G-EZJB
G-EZJC
G-EZJD
G-EZJE
G-EZJF
G-EZJG
G-EZJH
G-EZJI
G-EZJJ
G-EZJK
G-EZJL
G-EZJM
G-EZJN
G-EZJO
G-EZJP
G-EZJR
G-EZJS
G-EZJT
G-EZJU
G-EZJV
G-EZJW
G-EZJX
G-EZJY
G-EZJZ
G-EZKA
G-EZKB
G-EZKC
G-EZKD
G-EZKE
G-EZKF
G-EZKG
G-OSLH

A319

HB-JZA - Geneva
HB-JZB - Geneva
HB-JZC - Geneva
HB-JZD - Geneva
HB-JZE - Geneva
G-EZEA - Gatwick
G-EZEB - Gatwick
G-EZEC - Gatwick
G-EZED - Gatwick
G-EZEF- Berlin Schonefeld
G-EZEG - Gatwick
G-EZEH - Gatwick
G-EZEI - Gatwick
G-EZEJ - Berlin Schonefeld
G-EZEK - Gatwick
G-EZEM - Gatwick
G-EZEN - Gatwick
G-EZEO - Gatwick
G-EZEP - Gatwick
G-EZES - Gatwick (On Order - To be displayed at Farnborough)

100 more A319's on order.

-Stephen


User currently offlineTrevD From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 335 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

MD-11 - Not the actual contact, only summary of terms.

Ray Webster himself admitted they were given a stunning price by AI to buy the deal. That's why many financiers are not comfortable with the AI product because you'll never know what stupid thing Airbus is going to do in some other deal to destroy the residual value of your asset. Explains why their is an oversupply of used A320's on the market and their residuals are so cheap - I know of several late '90's build year A320's on the market that you can pickup for less than $10M - all of which have had the equity wiped out and at those prices the debt is going to take a hit as well.


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