Kcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3710 posts, RR: 8 Posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4032 times:
We talk so much about larger aircraft, I was just wondering how the more local and regional airports are doing out there? Mainly the airports that serve an area of at least 100,000. Are they growing? Loosing flights? planning anything new? Just tell us whats going on with the regional airports.
GSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2838 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4018 times:
My home airport, GSP, is doing great. Passenger numbers are back above last year's, and airlines have added service. Except for DL and NW, all our flights are on RJ's or propjets. Independence Air starts serving here on the 17th of this month. We currently have nonstop service to EWR & LGA, DCA, IAD, ORD, PHL, PIT, IAH, MCO, DFW, CLE, CLT, ATL, CVG and others.
Kcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3710 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3991 times:
nice. Here in CRW, numbers are 17% higher that lats year, and higher than before 911. They are adding 2 more gates onto the termanal by expanding concourse C. They are widening taxiways along the main runway and legenthening the runway to 7,000ft. We have service to IAD, DCA, PIT, CLT, PHL, CVG, CLE, ORD,and ATL. And were working on (Jfk, EWR, LGA) whichever opens up first. and possibly MIA.
GD727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 925 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3946 times:
I'm glad to hear regional airports in the south seem to be doing good, they're not doing so good here in New England. For instance, there is a nice airport in Worcester, MA (ORH), it has a nice terminal with around 4-6 gates and the airport is completley empty. The reasons why this happened is because of the close proximity of PVD and BOS. If people in Worcester want low fares, they just drive to PVD and take WN or to BOS and take B6 or Song. But the biggest reason ORH no longer has service is due to poor road access. To get to the airport, you must drive through downtown Worcester, and then through a maze of small residentail streets. Massport wants to build an access road from I-290, but NIMBY presence is as strong as always. Before 9/11, ORH had US Dash-8 service to PHL, AE ERJ service to ORD and SF3 service to JFK, DL CRJ service to ATL, and even Pan Am III 727 service to SFB and ABE. Now they have nothing! Man do I ever hate NIMBY's!
Tungd From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 103 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3886 times:
My hometown airport, KABI, is a regional airport serving 116k in the city and 300k total catchment area (80-mile radius). 2004 is one of the best years ever for local air travel, but that's not saying much since there are only 9 departures per day with a total of 350 seats! (American Eagle has 6 flights to DFW, 3 Saab's and 3 RJ's to DFW, and Continental Express/Skywest has 3 flights to IAH, 2 EMB-120's and 1 RJ)
All the flights have high load factors, but since KDFW is only 137nm away, most people drive instead. KABI, however, has recently doubled the size of the terminal and is now a "real" airport, complete with jet bridges...who woulda thunk??? The city's philosophy is "if we build it, they will come." It seems to be working so far, though it's unlikely that anything larger than RJs will ever serve this somewhat-remote facility.
Bostonguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 514 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3857 times:
Worcester's lack of service isn't just related to NIMBY's. From a Massport study on Worcester's lack of service:
"The Worcester Airport has long suffered from poor service reliability due to weather conditions. The airport's high altitude results in low ceiling conditions and fog that close the airport more often than other regional airports at lower altitudes. Massport has studied the feasibility of upgrading the Worcester Airport to a Category II/III Instrument Landing System (ILS) to increase the airport's operating reliability in poor weather conditions. Upgrades to the ILS at Worcester have been delayed due to lack of funds in the wake of September 11, 2001. Ground access has also been a problem that has limited Worcester's ability to realize its full potential. MassHighway is studying improvements to the greater Worcester area roadway network that would also benefit the accessibility of Worcester Airport by providing a direct, less complex connection between the airport and the interstate highway system. "
Plus, Boston's regional airports (Providence and Manchester) are doing quite well.
Juanchie From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 190 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3838 times:
Where are they putting those gates? Last I remember, there wasnt much room around the terminal. And what happened to the flight to IAH? Did they already drop it? I have some family that flew up on wednesday and when their united plane came in late at 1:30 am, it only had three bags on it. Wouldnt mind seeing good ole crw again.
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PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7422 posts, RR: 25 Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3856 times:
Boston's regional airports (Providence and Manchester) are doing quite well.
No doubt, the primary reason for that is due to the 'Southwest Effect'.
It's a shame about ORH. My brother lives in Sturbridge (12 miles west of Worcester); for a day trip, a round-trip flight from PHL to ORH would be nice and convenient. I never took advantage of that because USExpress was charging anywhere from $250 to $400 for the service... advance purchase, coach-only seating (DH-8), and even with a Saturday night stay.
Had GoFares existed then and for that route, I would've utilized it.
However, with WN's r/t PHL-PVD fare of $77 (includes taxes and fees and NO Saturday night stay required); the issue's a no-brainer. Although I am still waiting for WN to offer PHL-BDL service. BDL is slightly closer to Sturbridge than PVD.
Anyone know how BED (Hanscon) is doing? I know that they're losing USExpress (Shuttle America) and that Boston & Maine Airways (Pan Am Clipper Connection) is picking up the BED-TTN route from USExpress.
Has that route taken some hits from FL offering PHL-BOS service this past year?
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Kcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3710 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3810 times:
"Where are they putting those gates? Last I remember, there wasnt much room around the terminal. And what happened to the flight to IAH? Did they already drop it? I have some family that flew up on wednesday and when their united plane came in late at 1:30 am, it only had three bags on it. Wouldnt mind seeing good ole crw again."
Between the weather, and the drop from ACA, Uex is messed way up. They still fly to Iah. 1 erj in and 1 erj out. They both run 90-100% loads most of the time.
Im not sure where their adding gates. I know they built an 2nd jetway for gate B between gate B and A. The other ones should be an expansion of concourse C, thus making aircraft park straight in, and yeager aill go to a pushback method.
Juanchie From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 190 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3790 times:
Where are gates A and B? I have a good mental picture of the terminal and if I remember correctly, Yeager has a horrible numbering system with letters and number. Like gates A, B , 3 etc. It was always quite confusing.
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Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 22 Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3717 times:
I was going to post something about ABI, but you beat me to it! Are you living in Abilene now? I grew up there, but live in Austin now (about to move to Dallas). Just curious, I think you're the first Abilene person I've seen on A.net.
As for the airport, I agree -- it is doing well, much better than 5-6 years ago!
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6697 posts, RR: 18 Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3702 times:
My parents hometown airport (EWN - New Bern, NC) only has service by USX to Clt). They are trying to get AmConn or AE to flight out (again, as they used to). There is about a 200,000 popn for the area. They could REALLY use some more service.
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3667 times:
I think my regional airport is doing OK, Visby airport (59K inhabs on the Islands, many tourists in the summer), Sweden. They operate mainly SAAB 340ies nowadays.
As for regional planes I think Embraer is the big one in the sector and I predict they´ll dominate this size of airplane for a long time, China rolled out their
first local made ERJ145 recently and many of the competitors are gone,
SAAB, Fokker, Dornier to name a few.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8824 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3669 times:
As people have said, MHT is going up. Independence Air starts here very soon with 9 dailies to IAD (as well as a new UA Express ER4), PHL gets 4 WN 737s and a new US 733. DCA is picking up a 733 on US, and WN also recently announced a 3rd daily 737 to TPA. Earlier this year (or late last year), NW started up MSP service as well. The only loss recently were Pan Am (who were so inconsistent that I don't know if you could consider them a loss).
PWM is pretty much growing right now. They will have seasonal 733 service to DCA on US, and they are getting 2 733s back to PHL. They also recently picked up a CRJ to CLT. Delta recently added a CRJ to CVG to compliment their 2 daily MD-88s. American Eagle recently started weekend service to BOS. Northwest added an Avro 85 to compliment their 2 daily DC-9s and CRJ to DTW. Since 9/11 (when Air Canada and United mainline pulled out), the only losses have been US downgrading their flights (it was 733s to PIT and PHL only), and minor service tweakings by Delta Connection and American Eagle. Continental did do a seasonal 735 to PWM last season (a few days a week), but I can't find that right now either. Independence Air has also started with 6 daily CRJs to IAD.
Bostonguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 514 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3615 times:
Actually, MHT and PVD are both considered regional airports. Most analysts (even the Federal Reserve Bank) consider that a regional airport is one within 100 miles of a major city and it's home airport. One such source documenting that Hartford, Providence, Worcester, Manchester and Portland as regional airports is: http://www.bos.frb.org/economic/nerr/rr1997/winter/camp97_1.htm
An excerpt from the Federal Reserve Bank's report states:
Besides market pricing, more productive use of Logan hinges on its relationship with the smaller airports in the region. Five sizeable commercial airports -- Hartford, Manchester, Portland, Providence, and Worcester -- lie within one hundred miles of Boston; Hanscom Field, a major general aviation airport, also is northwest of the city. With these airports operating at an aggregate of just fifty percent of capacity, most could absorb more of the traffic now flowing through Logan.
And who determined that SW disqualifies an airport from being regional? Sources, please!
Kcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3710 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3589 times:
please read my first post describing what this thread is about. Im just saying that WN fly's out west directly. Im talking about the regional airports that dont serve big cities, stated by the population limits i put in my first post. Also the airports with only regional service.