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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7165 posts, RR: 57
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8431 times:

Low-fare Carrier to Serve Arizona's 'Valley of the Sun' with Daily Service from New York's JFK with Fares Starting from $99* Each Way --

New York (JFK) to Phoenix (PHX) Phoenix to New York
Depart -- Arrive Depart -- Arrive
9:25pm -- 11:45pm (eff. 10/1/04) 12:45am -- 8:20am (eff. 10/2/04)

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040712/60592.html


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User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8279 times:
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That's pretty cool! I was hoping they would be the first airline to serve Williams airport but I guess that will still have to wait. For nonstop service from New York that means there is: jetBlue, America West, and American. I think Delta dropped it's PHX flight from JFK. Maybe Song can pick it up.


Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineVivavegas From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 505 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8265 times:

Great passenger friendly flight times!  Nuts This ain't Vegas baby!

Craig
MKE



MKE / EYW / LAS - The true trifecta of aviation!
User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8258 times:

It's all about aircraft utilization. If the fares are good, they'll fill the planes.


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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7165 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8198 times:

I agree regarding flight times - with just a red-eyes from PHX this route will be a tough one to crack profits wise.


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8190 times:
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One red eye a day, an easy sell.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32898 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8182 times:

agree regarding flight times - with just a red-eyes from PHX this route will be a tough one to crack profits wise.



That's how Seattle, Salt Lake City, and Ontario work - one daily redeye each - and they have been serving each of them successfully for 3+ years. Sacramento, San Jose, and Santo Domingo are also successfully served with just one daily redeye. People fly it.

Great news to see jetBlue at Phoenix. Very surprised it was announced this soon. I have heard at least one more station will open this year, and that it will be in the Caribbean.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7781 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8175 times:

B6 has had a tendency of entering western markets with red-eyes first, then adding frequencies at more reasonable hours.

Jetblue heading to Phoenix was only a matter of time. But I am somewhat surprised to see it this soon. It will also be interesting to see how American responds to this service.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8096 times:

They will fill the planes with no problem. I heard a rumor a while ago that B6 would get gates at ISP with a daily non-stop to PHX. So far it is half right.

User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8552 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8064 times:
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Good to see B6 hit PHX.

We don't really have red eye flights in europe,unlike the good old USA which has a kind of love affair with them.

I've done a few red eyes in my time and they are always full!

Good luck to B6 in PHXSmile



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8061 times:

Thank you for jetBlue is bring to PHX this year of October. I am really wonderful to see flying out of PHX. I am very happy to hear about jetBlue is coming to PHX.

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8054 times:

One more other things and why not need to get daylight time to PHX and it was only for evening flight?

User currently offlineAirbus3801 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1089 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8008 times:

Finally I can fly Jet Blue for the first time. Are they also going to do services to Long Beach. If they do will they be the first airline to fly the new E-170 series into PHX?


P.S. Now we have even more 'buses coming into PHX Big grin

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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7989 times:

For nonstop service from New York that means there is: jetBlue, America West, and American.

CO has nonstop EWR-PHX service, so I think that counts, too.  Smile


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32898 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7982 times:

B6 has had a tendency of entering western markets with red-eyes first, then adding frequencies at more reasonable hours.

True, though some markets, like Seattle, still are just a redeye.

It will also be interesting to see how American responds to this service.

AA is not going to respond. JFK-PHX, for them, is a money losing route that is there only to show America West "who's boss". I'd be shocked if AA is still flying JFK-PHX at this time next year.

Are they also going to do services to Long Beach. If they do will they be the first airline to fly the new E-170 series into PHX?


Service to LGB is extremely unlikely and the E-170s will be based on the East coast, not west.

I would not rule out, however, jetBlue adding more East coast service from Phoenix, particullary on the underserved FLL-PHX market.



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User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7958 times:
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Alpha 1 -
I was referring to JFK since that I where I generally fly in and out of and not EWR. EWR is expensive to get to from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.




Keep on truckin'...
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7950 times:

MAH4546,

Are you still sure about jetBlue to plans from PHX-FLL anytime soon and we shall look see about them in the future. It will make one way to find out for them.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7939 times:

Alpha 1 -
I was referring to JFK since that I where I generally fly in and out of and not EWR. EWR is expensive to get to from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.


Shoulda maybe said "JFK", instead of "New York", then, becuase EWR does serve New York as well. But I accept your amendment.


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7933 times:

Alpha 1,

It will make said "JFK" or "PHX", instead of New York with JetBlue on their way. I am still hope will do well with these passengers on October 1 and I will even try to make flying on B6 to JFK very soon.

Regards


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

NY to PHX is a route that needs non-stops. I know a lot of people that are discovering the west as opposed to Florida. Being a winter resident of Nevada I can relate. I am glad IFP has a Cessna flying to Scottsdale some what regularly!

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7895 times:

Yes, this is most very excited for jetBlue is flying to PHX this fall and I am really looking forward to see them.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4405 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7864 times:
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If they do will they be the first airline to fly the new E-170 series into PHX?

No, because they have orders for the E190, not the E170. Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

He's right and it will use with EMB-190 and not need with EMB-170, either. You need to make pay attention what are you doing with jetBlue.

User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

HP has several redeyes to JFK.

HP18 PHX-JFK 10:00pm Departure
HP306 LAX-JFK 10:00pm Departure
HP58 LAS-JFK 10:51pm Departure


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7802 times:

Thanks for showing me with departures time about HP flight out of PHX & LAS.

25 Modesto2 : As others have said, JetBlue does red-eyes on the transcons for aircraft utilization. The aircraft depart in the evening around 10pm and by the time t
26 Luv2fly : I agree that red eyes are not my favorite to fly. Though it makes senses dollars wise to fly these flights that will sell themselves for the most part
27 Richierich : Well this is interesting because it pits B6 squarely against America West. I'm sure HP is not looking at this too fondly. But I don't think you'll see
28 Phxinterrupted : It's nice to see there are so many 'experts' on Phoenix. lol
29 ScottysAir : We shall look see about B6 service from FLL-PHX anytime soon.
30 Cory6188 : If AA is losing money on the JFK-PHX just to show HP "who's boss," I'd like to know how CO, another major, does on the route out of EWR.
31 MAH4546 : I don't know how well a FLL-PHX redeye would work but stranger things have happened. It would be a hit. You have an O&D market of 498 passengers per d
32 Hz747300 : What a great message to shareholders AA has by keeping an unprofitable route to show HP who's in charge. But I am sure that Delta dropped their flight
33 Matthewkh : Anybody have any idea what terminal / gates B6 will use? I'm guessing T3 somewhere; do they share gates with other airlines anywhere else?
34 MAH4546 : What a great message to shareholders AA has by keeping an unprofitable route to show HP who's in charge. It is a competitive response. They do it all
35 Luv2fly : That to me is the problem with the so called majors, at some point you have to operate flights because they make you money not because, "God forbid" y
36 Flyboy7974 : i doubt aa is going to respond, they aren't doing too well on the jfk route. last sunday, i was in phx picking up my cousin from philly on ata, and wa
37 ScottysAir : I doublt it about B6 service from PHX-FLL anytime soon and it was very full flight on HP flights to MIA & FLL. I am sure will make their decision abou
38 CactusHP : HP WILL pounce on JetBlue hard. But yes, I have to agree, B6 will give HP a run for it's money. CactusHP
39 737captain : Anybody have any idea what terminal / gates B6 will use? I'm guessing T3 somewhere; do they share gates with other airlines anywhere else? I too am wo
40 Luv2fly : From what I have read about how B6 operates these red eye stations, they most likely will out source the station and have an actual B6 employee or two
41 San2snow : It will be interesting to see how the red-eye flights do against each other from B6 and HP. However the other aspect that people are overlooking is B6
42 Post contains links Matthewkh : You know, there was an ad in the Sunday paper looking for aircraft cleaners for ATS (a company new to PHX), but looking at their website (http://www.a
43 ScottysAir : Is that still planning for hiring with new B6 employees at PHX very soon and what are you think even will get more new flights to BOS, FLL, LGB & OAK.
44 Post contains images ONT 737 : "HP WILL pounce on JetBlue hard. But yes, I have to agree, B6 will give HP a run for it's money." -CactusHP I figured that it was only a matter of tim
45 Matthewkh : ONT 737, does B6 usually hire managment locally, or attempt to relocate / promote from within?
46 Post contains images 737captain : matthewkh- Do you remember any info on those positions for ATS in PHX? I need a part time job to help pay for school
47 Matthewkh : 737captain, They're holding open interviews tue & wed (7/13 & 7/14) between 8am and 5pm at the Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites, 3401 E University D
48 ScottysAir : Good for new job interview with their person and will make bring them with new people at PHX.
49 Flairport : i think that jetBlue will pretty much be quiet until 2005 when the 190s come in. I think that jetBlue will announce new service to markets right now t
50 737captain : Matthewkh- Thanks for the info, it's greatly appreciated!
51 ScottysAir : Yeah, you should wait until next year in 2005 with new EMB-190 are come in.
52 AirframeAS : Is it me or is B6 an entirely red-eye operation? It seems like all the departures from the west coast going east is red-eye. What gives??
53 San2snow : It will be interesting to see if B6 does go from PHX to FLL. B6 would probuably go with a redeye and with HP having the one non-stop from PHX that lea
54 MAH4546 : EDIT: I believe FLL-PHX is 2X daily on HP...no redeye though. I know for a FACT it is 2X sa and maybe su. There is a second FLL-PHX frequency during p
55 ScottysAir : That's right for HP service from FLL-PHX with Saturdays only with late afternoon flight.
56 ONT 737 : Matthewkh, I would be surprised if they hired externally for the PHX management positions. I know enough qualified people in LGB alone that already wa
57 Matthewkh : ONT 737, Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. Doesn't hurt to dream, though. Thanks for the response.
58 Ozzie : Does anybody have an idea what terminal B6 will be flying out of?
59 Cactus739 : I'm guessing they'll use Terminal 2 or 3. Terminal 2 has an open gate or two down by US Airways and Alaska, but I don't recall any free counter space.
60 ScottysAir : They will find out when can use with their Terminal 2 or 3. It should wait to see when B6 are come in. It has make free space for more gates in south
61 Post contains links MAH4546 : The route map has been updated. As many know, when you click a city on the jetBlue route map, a small window opens with some little destination inform
62 ScottysAir : Thanks, MAH4546 and I just already saw them with the information their route maps. I am sure will get plans more new service to LGB & FLL from PHX any
63 B6FA4ever : AirframeAS: Is it me or is B6 an entirely red-eye operation? It seems like all the departures from the west coast going east is red-eye. What gives??
64 Jmc1975 : MAH4546: Ugh! They should've at least shown the nice part of Phoenix...not the ghetto South Phoenix in the foreground. I can't imagine a forward-think
65 Yokohama1970 : hey richierich just a note about america west FLL service. we offer 1 daily A320 non-stop PHX-FLL during summertime m,tu,wed,th,fri & sun. sat we offe
66 Hz747300 : Here some more from today's AZCENTRAL.COM -> America West, which has three daily non-stop flights to JFK and seven to the New York metropolitan area,
67 PROSA : Is the Southwest service from PHX to ISP nonstop? Ugh, how painful would that be with your only in flight entertainment being the cabin crew singing K
68 ScottysAir : No, I don't think WN not begin new service from ISP-PHX nonstop. It should wait to see what is exactly going on for next announces for more new servic
69 Post contains links ScottysAir : Hey Guys, I got with their newspapers from Arizona Central this morning and here it is: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0713jetblue13.html
70 PROSA : A Southwest spokeswoman said the airline had no comment on JetBlue's arrival because it doesn't consider Phoenix-JFK to be direct competition for its
71 LGB Photos : Hahahaha I have to laugh at CactusHP. If you honestly believe that statement about HP pouncing on us(B6), then the AZ heat has gotten to your head. Dr
72 Luv2fly : A Southwest spokeswoman said the airline had no comment on JetBlue's arrival because it doesn't consider Phoenix-JFK to be direct competition for its
73 Adam727 : With JetBlue coming to phx and they do good with the two flights to new York will they expand the in phx? Also I knew that Jetblue was coming to phx b
74 Cactus739 : I seriously doubt the City of Phoenix wanted jetBlue to fly to Williams Gateway in Mesa.... If anything, Mesa did. The City of Phoenix wants them at P
75 Post contains links Phx757 : Terminal 3 is crammed! With the scanning machines in the check-in area there is no room to walk around. Terminal 2 is an option however... Southwest's
76 Richierich : I agree with Cactus that the City of Phoenix (specifically the airport commission at Sky Harbor) wanted JetBlue at PHX. Likewise, the Williams Gateway
77 Flyboyaz : I don't think we (HP) will have much more of reaction than matching fares. Our JFK flights do very well and is one of our most profitable cities. The
78 Richierich : I agree, Flyboy. America West is not going to do anything drastic just because JetBlue is in town. Let's keep in mind that it is only one flight a day
79 Byrdluvs747 : I think HP will be proactive in competing with B6. HP could add another flight and/or lower fares on this route. There's not much B6 can do to hurt HP
80 ScottysAir : That's true about HP were looking for. If you even want to try take on B6 to JFK and will be do well with customers. it will needed to make use with t
81 AirframeAS : ...it's utilization of the aircraft. as someone mentioned earlier in the thread why keep the airplane on the ground for 10+ hrs or so when it can be f
82 ScottysAir : I am sure will do that for B6 service to PHX and later on in the year will plans to expanded more flight to FLL, LGB, IAD, BOS.
83 MAH4546 : Call me stupid all you want but it just seems that B6 just does red-eyes from the west coast. That is entirely incorrect. They operate daylight flight
84 ERJ170 : Me thinks that jetBlue needs to put a bigger map on their website.. the one they have now is getting kinda busy... or make it interactive.. can't tell
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