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Who Will Be The 1st US Airline To Order The 7e7  
User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10112 times:

Any idea on who will be the first U-S commercial airline to order the 7e7? Recently the European carriers have made their announcements could we expect a US announcement soon?


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User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5802 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9937 times:

Though it won't happen anytime soon but the first carriers I think will be CO and AA. They're in the best shape vis a vis other US carriers and they do have a large number os 767 and similar sized aircraft that can be easily replaced by the 7E7.


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User currently offlineUsairways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9923 times:

I know this is highly doubtful, but the 7e7 would look really cool in usairways colors!  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineHz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9926 times:
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This has been discussed a bunch here. The speculation is that airlines that could use it (UA, DL, AA) cannot afford it. Then there is NW, which is just starting to take deliveries of the A330, which leaves CO as a widebody operator which could theoretically use it as well.

My guess would be CO - if for no other reason, they could afford an order, and just maybe it would fit into their plans to phase out 767's. But I would not expect a CO order for at least 18-24 months.

My surprise pick would be Hawaiian Airlines.



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9921 times:

Ditto on that NYC777...I say AA and CO as well...who knows maybe Hawaiian or Aloha to serve cities in the East Coast! That could be interesting...


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9912 times:

Yes, They are very interesting about 7E7 and will make their decison to make orders with 7E7.

User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9908 times:

Now what's going to be the basic seating configuration for the aircraft? 3-3-3 or 2-3-2?


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9897 times:

I think the basic will use with their seat with 3-3-3 or 2-3-2.

User currently offlineNealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

The first US Customer of the 7E7 will definitely be NW...to replace their DC-9s!

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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6787 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9828 times:

Hmmm....

I would have to guess.. probably Aloha or Hawaiian.. they probably want to reach the East Coast at some point N/S! LOL.. just a guess...



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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9825 times:

7E7 in US Airways livery:
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00002140

Looks quite good  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Tom


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9808 times:

NEALCG..you're very funny today!..How bout JET BLUE with a try for international routes?(that's even funnier)
safe



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User currently offlineFrugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9742 times:

My bet goes with CO as a 767 replacement, and possibly NW to complement their new A330s* on international routes or on domestic routes that are too large for the 753 but do not require a DC-10.

*I know the A332 is a direct competitor, but the smallest 7E7s seat only approx. 200 pax, while the A332 is a 250-seater.


User currently offlineNearord From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 185 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9727 times:

It's Independence Air, they will use them for the Europe and South America ops out of IAD. HE HE HE

User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9721 times:

well we can rule UA DL and US, and probably AA too.

which leaves NW or one of the smaller airlines.


User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9705 times:

In all seriousness I wish I could say UA but I would have to place my $$ on CO. AA still has other a/c on hold that they haven't gotten b/c they have no need for them (767(?) and a few 777's) so I don't think they're going to bite the bullet yet.

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User currently offlineBsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9696 times:

My guess would be ATA.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9694 times:

And isn't CO the only all Boeing US International Airline? WN but they only have 737's in their fleet. I'm talking wide body's too.

UA777222



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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9679 times:

I wouldn't be too surprised if NW was one of the early US carriers, if not the first. If they are, an announcement might come out in the fall after coming to some agreement on wages and work rules with the pilots.

Just a hunch.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

And isn't CO the only all Boeing US International Airline?

Delta as well (though, for both, you have to count McDD as Boeing)


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9572 times:

Could the 7E7 become the first-ever Boeing airliner that doesn't have a U.S. carrier as a launch customer?


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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7810 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9564 times:

Given the cyclical nature of the aviation business it is highly likely the AA, DL, UA, and CO will order the 7E7 at some point. But I doubt that any of the four would be among the launch customers given their current financial state.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9561 times:

Jaspike,

this is very good US Airways colors with 7E7. I am really like them alot for myself and maybe some of these airlines make orders them with 7E7.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9559 times:

Could the 7E7 become the first-ever Boeing airliner that doesn't have a U.S. carrier as a launch customer?

The first all-new family, yes.

However, the 773A was the first Boeing model derivative to never have a USA launch customer.


User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9521 times:

My bet is on AA. CO is still taking regular delivery of new aircraft to replace the soon-to-be-gone MD80's, as well as the 733's. Their 767's are young. Unless they see enough potential for expansion to require more widebody aircraft, I think they'll wait before ordering the 7E7. The leases on AA's A300's begin expiring in 2008, and the most likely replacement is the 7E7. AA could convert some of its 777 options to 7E7, because of the arrangement they have with Boeing, and I think this is likely to happen.



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25 ConcordeBoy : AA could convert some of its 777 options to 7E7, because of the arrangement they have with Boeing, and I think this is likely to happen. ...not if AA
26 Dvk : What is the PRC? x x x
27 Alitalia744 : Wasn't the 737 launched with a non-US customer? LH?
28 BCAInfoSys : Dvk - PRC = the Peoples Republic of China
29 Starrion : People's Republic of China who have authorized additional flights between china and the US. DL: No money AA: no money UA: no money CO: little money, n
30 Dvk : Oh...I'd forgotten about the additional China routes. Does AA have an inside track on them? I can see why the 777 would be needed for them, since the
31 ORDAgent : According to my AA sales rep they are very advanced in house on getting everything in order to announce the launch. They think they have better than 5
32 HlywdCatft : ***However, the 773A was the first Boeing model derivative to never have a USA launch customer.*** I don't remember any USA launch customer for the 74
33 Gigneil : Now what's going to be the basic seating configuration for the aircraft? 3-3-3 or 2-3-2? 2-4-2 or 3-2-3 have been batted around as the basic configura
34 Dalecary : It has been mentioned on the respected "Orders" site that NW is the most likely US early 7E7 orderer. I believe it is mainly to fragment the North Pac
35 SeaMeFly : I believe NW wants to simplify their fleet in order to save $... Adding an additional type of a/c would require them to retrain most of the personnel
36 NW7E7 : NW will sell their A330's to Boeing and they will get the 7E7's dirt cheap.
37 Tcfc424 : I would place my money on CO, and as a secondary thought NW. My reasons for this are: Continental... 1) Yes, they have a new fleet of 767's, but this
38 TrevD : NW7E7 & TCFC424 - I think both of you are spot on that NWA is the likely candidate as the first US customer for the 7E7, but 2 items I'd comment on: 1
39 Ken777 : My money is on AA. They have a commitment for a large number of planes and switching some to the 7E7 will look good for them and Boeing. They can alwa
40 Tcfc424 : I am interested to know how many commitments AA has to Boeing aircraft. I am not attacking anyone, I am just curious, as I was under the impression AA
41 Cloudy : AA, Delta, NW, etc. probably will happen sooner or later but I'll go out on a limb here and predict it will be a lo-co or semi-lo-co 757 operator such
42 SESGDL : UA, CO, DL, AA, all are likely buyers, eventually. But because of the current airline financial state, I don't think the airlines are in the position
43 Dbo861 : I agree with Cloudy though that there is a good chance of it being a Low cost carrier. Many are much better off financially than the bigger legacy car
44 TransPac : I think ATA is a possibility, NW if they wanna play switcheroo with Boeing on the 332's (a good move IMO) and for my going out a limb choice I will su
45 Indio66 : I would not be suprised at all to see Jet Blue looking at the 7E7 for future flights to Europe, especially with the shape Delta, US and UAL are in. Ot
46 Dvk : AA hasn't cancelled any Boeing orders, other than the remaining 717's originally ordered by TWA. They have deferred delivery of new aircraft until 200
47 MAH4546 : The 767-300s are approacing 16 years old or so, and so are the 757s which I think also came in the late 80s early 90s. If AA gets back in shape, there
48 Frugalqxnwa : CO and NW are the top two IMO. CO- Will be a good move for down the road, if they can afford the down payments now. NW- Will be a great supplement to
49 BCAInfoSys : I'm going to toss my $0.02 and say that TZ will be the likely candidate, with 753 and L1011's to replace, the 7E7 makes a lot of sense. And my first t
50 SESGDL : "Most people on this thread are way over-stating AA's financial problems. US Airways, Delta, and United only wish they could be in the situation Ameri
51 Post contains images Clickhappy : Aloha will be the first US airline to order the 7e7, look for an announcement soon
52 Post contains links Planemaker : "Most people on this thread are way over-stating AA's financial problems." No, they are just echoing what is being printed in the press -- even with a
53 Sinlock : American Airlines ha outstanding orders for. 9 777-200ER 47 737-800
54 Post contains images Swaluvfa : I love that no one mentions AirTran! We do a great job of running our airline, running it REALLY well, and staying out of the limelight. You hear so m
55 Alessandro : If Boeing builds an cargo version, I say Fed-Ex otherwise I don´t know...
56 Nyc777 : US Airways (Scareways) won't order another Boeing product for a long time. There's too much bad blood between them from the 90's.
57 RayChuang : Here are the three most likely US-based airlines to get the 7E7: Continental Airlines (CO): they will use it to expand transatlantic, Latin American a
58 Post contains images BCAInfoSys : Nyc777 - I wouldn't worry about it too much. US will probably never order planes from any other manufacturers either... *plays Taps for US* (I would g
59 Gilesdavies : How about Jet Blue ordering the 7E7??? They could order them to offer LCC flights accross the pond to Europe. Could be an interesting concept!
60 Cloudy : I love that no one mentions AirTran! We do a great job of running our airline, running it REALLY well, and staying out of the limelight. You hear so m
61 Pilotcoex : Seems like only CO can afford them right now.
62 MasseyBrown : I don't know if CO will be the first, but I bet they at least issue a letter of intent to acquire 7e7's before Bethune retires this December. He'll wa
63 Planemaker : After reading what the Air Transport Association official said in an interview -- it looks like the legacy carriers will not be posting any profits in
64 Klkla : The director of the 7e7 program said in a conference call last week that they expect an order from a U.S. carrier by the end of the year. This was the
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