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Man Killed By B737 Engine  
User currently offlinePilatusguy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 18553 times:

According to a Swiss newspaper, a 26year old airport employee has been killed at SVO today as he got too close to a running B737 engine.

due to heavy rain, the guy was waring a hood (correct word??) and didn't notice (?) the 737 from Kazachstan.

Link (in german):
http://www.tagi.ch/dyn/news/newsticker/395742.html

unbelievable, isn't it?

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User currently offlineSammyhostie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 18008 times:

Not really! When you have 2 sets of ear protectors and headphones on and are facing the opposite way, its perfectly possible!

Hence why extreme caution should always be observed on the ramp.
This kind of incident happens every so often, as sad as it is.
Lets hope it wakes us all up again and make us realise what a dangerous environment we work in.


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 17960 times:

Very sad. It must be an Air Astana 737.

User currently offlineSu From Russia, joined Apr 2004, 360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 17944 times:

It was an Air Astana plane. The guy actually was just a graduate and started to work not long time ago.

But isn't there usually communication to let the person know that engines are turning on, so go away.

[Edited 2004-07-14 11:54:48]


"Life is too short to take it serious..."
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7110 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 17803 times:

Wow, my condolences to the guy's family and friends.

User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 17344 times:

This is very sad !! I pray for the guy's loved ones.  Sad


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 17288 times:

>>>I pray for the guy's loved ones

Ditto, not to mention the folks that had to return the aircraft to service... (Yuck!)


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 17211 times:

Tragic...just terrible. Situational awareness is crucial- just goes to show that everyone at every time has to have their wits about them and head screwed on straight.

A momentary lapse of awareness in most people's jobs usually doesn't result in death- renews the respect I have for ramp workers, that's for sure.


User currently offlineMikester540 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16765 times:

Wow... That's horrible. My Condolences to the family. Wasn't there a video of a crew member on a flight deck that was sucked through an intake? He survived and came out (naked) with a few broken ribs.



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16448 times:

That goes to show you...always read the sign on the engine nacelle...stay clear of hazard areas while engine is running....it even gives particular distances to stand from the engine at certain angles.


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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16436 times:

Poor guy. There was a guy at Aloha Airlines a number of years ago that got sucked down the intake of a 737-200. Fortunately for him the JT8 has fixed inlet guide vanes. That saved his life, however he did lose an arm.

User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15976 times:

Very very tagic, and as mentioned it's not that hard to lose your bearings out on the ramp especially in inclimate weather. Not quite the same rush as what I used to experience on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, but still a dangerous place.

Thoughts and prayers with his fmaily and friends...  Crying


User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15692 times:

What a tragedy. Truly hope this never happens again.  Sad


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User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15637 times:

So sad...best wishes to his family and loved ones.




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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15324 times:

Goes to show how professional every ramp agent is in both the us and anywhere. 1000's of flights daily take off and no flight is less dangerous than the other, some more than others but still that common danger and death.

UA777222



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12818 times:

i too have seen the video of the military guy being sucked into an engine. i was told there was a fence like barrier that stopped his body from going through.

he lived but was he ever black and blue!



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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12286 times:

I was speaking to a ramp instructing facilitator for my airline recently and as we spoke of dangers on the ramp, he said that since the introduction of the 737, a total of 26 people have been ingested to date.

Whether that is definately true or not, I cannot say. Maybe someone would be interested in trying to do some research and find a number for us. Given that the airplane has been flying for over 30 years, and the engines are so close to the number one and two cargo bins, that number sounds reasonable.

OttoPylit


User currently offlineJeckPDX From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11182 times:

What a tragedy. This is kinda scary since recently I boarded via airstairs on an AS 737-700 with the engine running. Makes me think twice about the ops at AS and SJC.

JeckPDX



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10864 times:

I remember watching on T.V a clip of a US serviceman being sucked into the engine of a Harrier jet on the deck of an aircraft carrier. It was pretty horrendous.

My thoughts are with the family



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User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10675 times:

Horus....I've never seen the Harrier video....but have seen the A-7 vid.

So guys........what series 7-3 was this??? In my ramp days I've personally witnessed a hat ingestion and a blast incident. This real, real skinny chick just walked right behind the #2 engine of a DL 732. The blast just literally lifted her in the air..........she took flight, and was thrown a good 40 feet into a chain link fence.... She was just fine, except for the "grill" marks on her back.

Everyone, everyone please pray for the family!

VFR & Tailwinds

Gib


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10591 times:

Gib, the video I saw was during the night and the guy was passing by the front of the jet before being sucked in. Apparently he wasn't killed because wire mesh is placed in the engines right before the fans, which stopped him from being 'blended'. I thought it was a Harrier due to the location and shape of the engines. Could be wrong though. Is that the same as the clip you watched?


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User currently offlineBoo25 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10482 times:

That really is truly very sad news.....  Sad

My thoughts are with his loved ones...

Poor guy, i bet he was so excited about working there and this terrible accident befalls him, very sad day for all at SVO

Rest in Peace.......


User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10451 times:

Horus:

I've seen this video a few times - it's an A-6 or EA-6. The guy was an instructor who was checking out a trainee, who had hooked up the aircraft to the catapult. The launch officer gave the signal to go to full power at the same time as the guy moved toward the nose wheel. And zip! he was gone. The engine flamed out and the pilot shut it down. No one knew what happened. Apparently the video continues, and he is seen sliding out of the intake and stumbling around the flight deck for a few seconds / minutes. He broke his collarbone, both eardrums, and had other injuries that I don't recall.

I don't know about any mesh in the intake - I've looked down a few and never seen anything but fan blades. It was wintertime and he was wearing a parka.

So I'm told, anyway, by the flight safety guys.

By the way, engines aren't particularly well marked as far as danger zones. The CFM-56's I work with have only a red line a few feet back from the intake. I have often had to move ahead of that red line in the course of my job, and I do it very carefully, of course. I don't think there's much of a hazard at idle. Not that you get complacent.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10343 times:

>>>So guys........what series 7-3 was this???

Based on what's in the photo database, it's either this one, or its sistership, both 737-700s...


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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10344 times:

Thanks for the info 320tech, but if there weren't any wire meching then how comes the guys didn't suffer more serious, if not fatal injuries?


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25 Gib : Horus.....I'm thinking that was the same one I saw and I betcha' if I tried hard enough, I could find us that video online....complete with a link...
26 RareBear : The U. S. Navy built a mesh guard to use on the Vought A7E for exactly that reason. The guard was installed prior to any ground ops at more than idle
27 Post contains images Northwest717 : ::::shudder::::: That is an awful way to die! I am truly sorry for his family. Wow that is just an awful story. Very sad.... -Tim
28 L.1011 : Remember kids, the areas surrounding aircraft engines are not a playground. All my condolences to the family.
29 MD11Engineer : A guy I knew from my old job with Shannon Aerospace got sucked into a Ryanair 737-200 in DUB. He got stuck in the inlet guide vanes and "only" lost an
30 AirframeAS : I remember watching on T.V a clip of a US serviceman being sucked into the engine of a Harrier jet on the deck of an aircraft carrier. It was pretty h
31 ATL2CDG : I hate to see a perfectly good engine put out of service because this guy couldn't maintain his situational awareness. Oh well.
32 A380900 : Very sad. Does it have to do with the very low level of the intakes on the 737?Would that be possible in a 747 for instance? Does anyone know the stat
33 Post contains images RA-85154 : A very tragic accident Feel sorry for the relatives, who have to live with the fact he died in such a way... "I hate to see a perfectly good engine p
34 AirframeAS : Does it have to do with the very low level of the intakes on the 737? I think it does, but Im not exactly sure. My theory is the lower the intakes are
35 ATL2CDG : RA-85154: It's difficult for me to 'care' about a complete stranger that apparently lacked the basic instinct of survival. Situational awareness it th
36 JMChladek : In the case of the A-6 ingestion, the guy probably got hung up on a pitot static port in the intake, but his head gear got sucked into the blades and
37 Lauda777 : Sad, accidents always are no matter how they came about. My question is why they haven't developed some sort of engine guard for aircraft like the 737
38 JetMechMD80 : I don't think it has much to do with the height. They are all low enough. The 737 is a short airframe, and the inlets are close to the fwd pit door, I
39 Widebody : When the aircraft engines have been started and are at idle on the ramp, what's the radius around the inlet where ingestion is a possibility?
40 MD11Engineer : depends on the engine. I, as a rule, make sure during pushback or other operations at idle, not to approach the engine from front closer than the nose
41 AirframeAS : When the aircraft engines have been started and are at idle on the ramp, what's the radius around the inlet where ingestion is a possibility? On a 737
42 Post contains links and images UTA_flyinghigh : Not unusual when you see what that fool was doing at CMF : View Large View MediumPhoto © William Ronciere He actually opened the door and was und
43 L-188 : Yeah, that would be a little close for my taste too. But that being said, Have you ever pulled the power plug from a Volpar Beech with both motors tur
44 HaveBlue : The video of the guy being ingested is definitely a Grumman A-6 Intruder. Not an EA-6B, an A-7 or a Harrier. There was no wire mesh. His suit got hung
45 L-188 : What saved his life is that he broke a SOP for operations on a carrier deck. He had change in his pockets.
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