Sammyhostie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18691 times:
Not really! When you have 2 sets of ear protectors and headphones on and are facing the opposite way, its perfectly possible!
Hence why extreme caution should always be observed on the ramp.
This kind of incident happens every so often, as sad as it is.
Lets hope it wakes us all up again and make us realise what a dangerous environment we work in.
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2691 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17131 times:
That goes to show you...always read the sign on the engine nacelle...stay clear of hazard areas while engine is running....it even gives particular distances to stand from the engine at certain angles.
LMP737 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 5065 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17119 times:
Poor guy. There was a guy at Aloha Airlines a number of years ago that got sucked down the intake of a 737-200. Fortunately for him the JT8 has fixed inlet guide vanes. That saved his life, however he did lose an arm.
Dash8tech From Hong Kong, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16659 times:
Very very tagic, and as mentioned it's not that hard to lose your bearings out on the ramp especially in inclimate weather. Not quite the same rush as what I used to experience on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, but still a dangerous place.
Thoughts and prayers with his fmaily and friends...
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16007 times:
Goes to show how professional every ramp agent is in both the us and anywhere. 1000's of flights daily take off and no flight is less dangerous than the other, some more than others but still that common danger and death.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12969 times:
I was speaking to a ramp instructing facilitator for my airline recently and as we spoke of dangers on the ramp, he said that since the introduction of the 737, a total of 26 people have been ingested to date.
Whether that is definately true or not, I cannot say. Maybe someone would be interested in trying to do some research and find a number for us. Given that the airplane has been flying for over 30 years, and the engines are so close to the number one and two cargo bins, that number sounds reasonable.
Gib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11358 times:
Horus....I've never seen the Harrier video....but have seen the A-7 vid.
So guys........what series 7-3 was this??? In my ramp days I've personally witnessed a hat ingestion and a blast incident. This real, real skinny chick just walked right behind the #2 engine of a DL 732. The blast just literally lifted her in the air..........she took flight, and was thrown a good 40 feet into a chain link fence.... She was just fine, except for the "grill" marks on her back.
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11274 times:
Gib, the video I saw was during the night and the guy was passing by the front of the jet before being sucked in. Apparently he wasn't killed because wire mesh is placed in the engines right before the fans, which stopped him from being 'blended'. I thought it was a Harrier due to the location and shape of the engines. Could be wrong though. Is that the same as the clip you watched?
320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11134 times:
I've seen this video a few times - it's an A-6 or EA-6. The guy was an instructor who was checking out a trainee, who had hooked up the aircraft to the catapult. The launch officer gave the signal to go to full power at the same time as the guy moved toward the nose wheel. And zip! he was gone. The engine flamed out and the pilot shut it down. No one knew what happened. Apparently the video continues, and he is seen sliding out of the intake and stumbling around the flight deck for a few seconds / minutes. He broke his collarbone, both eardrums, and had other injuries that I don't recall.
I don't know about any mesh in the intake - I've looked down a few and never seen anything but fan blades. It was wintertime and he was wearing a parka.
So I'm told, anyway, by the flight safety guys.
By the way, engines aren't particularly well marked as far as danger zones. The CFM-56's I work with have only a red line a few feet back from the intake. I have often had to move ahead of that red line in the course of my job, and I do it very carefully, of course. I don't think there's much of a hazard at idle. Not that you get complacent.
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