Mika10021 From Greece, joined Jul 2004, 122 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3686 times:
There was a rumour that Thai will order the A380.Any more news about that?hope they fly it to MEL.
Also last month's Airlinerworld wrote that South African Airways is considering the superjumbo.
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3603 times:
The A380 is the logical option for SAA for their LHR-routes. Its not likely that they could get new slots for expanding their flights. So their only option to grow is the A380. Today they have two daily flights by 744`s from JNB and one from CPT. And while the jumbos becoming older it wouldn't make sense to replace them with smaller 346`s. So 6 A380`s for all their LHR-routes wouldn't surprise me.
ERJ135 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 670 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3448 times:
While I have no hard proof I am convinced that the Chinese will be on the order books in the not too distant future. Recently I flew China Eastern and in their in flight mag there was a short article in English on how the A380 would fit into their fleet and also the five Chinese airports that are planning to upgrade facilities to handle the A380. Given that I don't know any airline flying into a Chinese port that might use their A380s there, I wopuld have to assume that the infrastructure upgrade is to accomodate A380's within the Chinese fleets, (Probably Air China, China Eastern and maybe China Southern)
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
SAA have kept the 744's specifically to operate the LHR route, because they can pack more people in than on the A346. I would say they could easily fill A380's on the JNB/CPT-LHR routes, and maintain double-daily JNB flights.
ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6937 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3328 times:
I am hoping NZ will, but they would have no use for it unless used on LAX and LHR routes which would still be long shots. Besides LHR what would SAA use them for?
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3150 times:
Re: Besides LHR what would SAA use them for?
Maybe AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA. AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA is also a main point in SAA's long haul system. LHR and AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA are the only two cities to which SAA would fly the A380 from their main hub JNB.
Perhaps Cargolux will be the second customer to order the A380 Freighter, first is Fed Ex. Cargolux currently has an all young 747-400F fleet, the oldest being only 10 years old, but sometimes next decade they will need to start phasing in a replacement, maybe they will continue with newer 747-400F's but if Boeing decides to close the 747 production line then maybe Cargolux will consider ordering the A380-800F.
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TrevD From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 327 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3028 times:
In JAL's case they have already decided and have gone to the 773ER. The only agreement JAL/ANA have with Boeing is the individual orders each have in place. In addition to the 773ER's for JAL, ANA has the order for the 7E7's to replace 767's as they retire and the 737NG's which will start replacing A320's in the near term.
Udo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
Wow Warren, what a wise analysis. "From this forum we have learnt that the plane is over weight" - do you think JAL and ANA make their decisions based on such forum talk?
And the plane is not based on projections - it will actually fly in a few months. So the B7E7 is much more a projection in comparison. At the end both types will satisfy their customers.
Btw, following your logic, all current A380 customers are dumb, right? Hm, I'm only wondering why dumb airlines like Lufthansa, Air France, Qantas, Singapore Als, Virgin Atlantic, Emirates or Qatar Airways are able to make big profits, while oh so wise airlines such as JAL and ANA have not been able to fly anyhwere else than in the red for years? Maybe your definition of dumb is somehow different?
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2808 times:
from this forum we already learned that it is already 12 tons over weight.
No we haven't. We've heard hearsay.
At any rate, an A380 would also be able to op nonstop to the US with little if any weight restriction, especially from CPT. SAA has always wanted to be able to carry a larger load on their route (currently to ATL), and the 380 is the way to do it.
Nice quote from another forum:
"It's funny how the most controversial aircraft of their time are the ones that are European showing the Yanks that we can beat them at their own game.
Don't act so bruised guys, I'm sure that when the 7E7 turns up it'll be really......erm.......efficient......"
Caetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 898 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
It seems like there would definitely be a place for a small number of A380s in the SAA fleet. I could also see that kind of capacity working out for several Asian carriers.
As for the article quoted by Aerosol, it really doesn't say much. It certainly doesn't say the A380 will not be overweight, it says specifically "there will be no weight problems". However, there are no facts and figures or much of anything included in that article. That could mean anything, including "the aircraft is heavier than planned, but we will still reach our efficiency targets". It could also be like Bill Clinton saying "I did not have sex with that woman", all depends on your definition of the word "weight problems", just like Clinton's definition of sex was different than most people's.
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her. - W.C. Fields
Warren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
But SAA is already flying the A346 which is suppose to do fly to U.S. East coast non-stop both ways and it now has changed to 1 stop on many days.
On such a long flight it will be the same issue with the A380 having advertised non-stop heavily all year around and then we can blame on the winds again.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1989 times:
But SAA is already flying the A346 which is suppose to do fly to U.S. East coast non-stop both ways and it now has changed to 1 stop on many days.
To accomodate cargo. They'd rather carry all the cargo and go one-stop 100% of the time than have to offload cargo based on the wind. The nonstop flights were strictly trial run, and nobody but you really expected they'd go nonstop year round.
On such a long flight it will be the same issue with the A380 having advertised non-stop heavily all year around and then we can blame on the winds again.
What makes you say that? Do you have facts and figures? No? Good, nobody else does either.
The A380-800 has a significantly higher range than the A340-600. There's little reason to doubt it at this point, until we see it fly.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15872 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1841 times:
American 767, I think cargolux is more interested in palletized cargo than package freight. The 744F has one great advantage there: the big cargo door. If nothing else, it allows you to carry oversize loads.
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25 Kl911: I'm probably dreaming again, but how about the 380 for KLM and AF for their routes to their colonies and ex-colonies? KL and AF are always totally ove
26 Teahan: @KL911. Well AF already has A380s on order. J.
27 Kl911: Teahan, oops, I totally forgot that........... It's getting late here......... Anyway, let's hope KL orders them too, then they can work together for
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