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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

i know australia-south africa and egypt-australia are the only route between autralia and africa.. when did QF pulled out of harare?
any other flights operate between the 2 regions/


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Air Zimbabwe and Air Mauritius used to serve Perth if I'm not mistaken.


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Air Zimbabwe don't fly to PER - they used to codeshare on the QF flights

User currently offlineZizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1535 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Hi Airmale, hope you have been well.

Air Zimbabwe never flew to Australia with their own metal. They used to codeshare with Qantas with the B747-300 service to Perth. Air Mauritius has now expanded their service to Sydney, Melbourne and as you mentioned Perth. The Sydney flight is an extension of the Perth flight.

Also, Egyptair pulled out of Australia last year, so the only links between OZ and Africa at the moment is SAA and Air Mauritius.

Hope this clears things up  Smile


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

thats great thanks any ideas why MS pulled out/ looks around for Horus LOL


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User currently offlineMHTMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

There won't be any white Zimbabweans left by the end of the year, so no more need for HRE-PER/SYD code shares.

User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

MHTMDW, no offence but dont black zimbabwean travel?


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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1564 times:

Also, Egyptair pulled out of Australia last year, so the only links between OZ and Africa at the moment is SAA and Air Mauritius.

Don't forget QF! They fly into JNB.



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User currently offlineMHTMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Soups: Indeed they do. I agree the tone of the post may come across wrong and slight that community and their situation, which is far bleaker that their white counterparts. One million African farmworkers and their families destitute and countless others on the verge of starvation due to one man's megalomania. I was alluding to the one-way traffic of white Zimbos to the Antipodes. I have met black Zimbabweans (one was a FO on a BE1900)in the US and Canada who are torn between the ties to home and the bleak prospects of ever going back. It was quite jarring to hear one of them say how much better things were when Smith was in charge. .

User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

OZ-Africa routes as follows:

MK: SYD-MEL-MRU & PER-MRU
SA: PER-JNB
QF: SYD-JNB. Flight operated to HRE instead of JNB when Australia imposed sanctions on South Africa.

Only other service was the now suspended Egyptair SYD-SIN-CAI route and the extremely short-lived PER-SEZ via Ligne Aerienne Seychelles.


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Soups, Egyptair operated 3x weekly CAI-SIN-SYD A340 flights, but they suspended the flights in 2002 as load factors were only averaging 70% (due to the effects of 9/11). It is a shame really as they were close to launching MEL flights (largest Egyptian population live in Melbourne). They now co-operate with SQ to get passengers between Oz and Egypt.


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1466 times:
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I'd be interested to know if any other flights have such a big difference in flight time for the opposing routes, I flew JNB-SYD in October 2001 and the flight time was about 11 hours, the return flight was 14 hours!


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User currently offlineAirbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

A little off the topic, but of interest anyway... during the 1st Gulf War in 1991, when airlines were avoiding all Mid-East airspace, most a/c ex Australia to Europe flew north ex BKK or SIN, through Pakistani and Russian airspace to Europe. There was one carrier that didn't. I flew on UTA (remember them?) B744 SYD/CDG via SIN and NBO !! This was fairly short-lived, but was and it remains, I think, the only ever direct conection between Aust. & East Africa.

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5629 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

Eta unknown

You forgot QF's CAI service! Operated for about 30 years between 1950' and some time in the later 70's as a stop on the Kangaroo route to London.

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User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

This might be a little off topic, but does anyone know why IB and QF don't commercialize the MAD-JNB-SYD route. This is the route I did last year as a non-rev and from Spain is a very convenient route.


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1261 times:

Re why IB and QF don't commercialize the MAD-JNB-SYD route ?

BA and QF had the notion a few years back to have the BA aircraft that spend all day in JNB actually used by QF to operate JNB-SYD-JNB roundtrips before returning to LHR, to improve utilization - either that, or have QF operate JNB-LHR legs on behalf of BA - there was some issue because neither could use foreign-registered aircraft to operate routes out of SA, I believe. Would have been a good idea.

JNB is actually quite a good stopover point en route Europe-Australia, it makes the trip a big longer coming back because of the enormous headwinds on the westbound Southern Ocean leg, but eastbound its pretty quick.


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