Zizou From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 1536 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1920 times:
Hi Airmale, hope you have been well.
Air Zimbabwe never flew to Australia with their own metal. They used to codeshare with Qantas with the B747-300 service to Perth. Air Mauritius has now expanded their service to Sydney, Melbourne and as you mentioned Perth. The Sydney flight is an extension of the Perth flight.
Also, Egyptair pulled out of Australia last year, so the only links between OZ and Africa at the moment is SAA and Air Mauritius.
MHTMDW From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
Soups: Indeed they do. I agree the tone of the post may come across wrong and slight that community and their situation, which is far bleaker that their white counterparts. One million African farmworkers and their families destitute and countless others on the verge of starvation due to one man's megalomania. I was alluding to the one-way traffic of white Zimbos to the Antipodes. I have met black Zimbabweans (one was a FO on a BE1900)in the US and Canada who are torn between the ties to home and the bleak prospects of ever going back. It was quite jarring to hear one of them say how much better things were when Smith was in charge. .
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1775 times:
Soups, Egyptair operated 3x weekly CAI-SIN-SYD A340 flights, but they suspended the flights in 2002 as load factors were only averaging 70% (due to the effects of 9/11). It is a shame really as they were close to launching MEL flights (largest Egyptian population live in Melbourne). They now co-operate with SQ to get passengers between Oz and Egypt.
Andz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8549 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1713 times:
I'd be interested to know if any other flights have such a big difference in flight time for the opposing routes, I flew JNB-SYD in October 2001 and the flight time was about 11 hours, the return flight was 14 hours!
After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
Airbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1647 times:
A little off the topic, but of interest anyway... during the 1st Gulf War in 1991, when airlines were avoiding all Mid-East airspace, most a/c ex Australia to Europe flew north ex BKK or SIN, through Pakistani and Russian airspace to Europe. There was one carrier that didn't. I flew on UTA (remember them?) B744 SYD/CDG via SIN and NBO !! This was fairly short-lived, but was and it remains, I think, the only ever direct conection between Aust. & East Africa.
Bullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1511 times:
This might be a little off topic, but does anyone know why IB and QF don't commercialize the MAD-JNB-SYD route. This is the route I did last year as a non-rev and from Spain is a very convenient route.
These are my principles but if you don't like them I have others
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1508 times:
Re why IB and QF don't commercialize the MAD-JNB-SYD route ?
BA and QF had the notion a few years back to have the BA aircraft that spend all day in JNB actually used by QF to operate JNB-SYD-JNB roundtrips before returning to LHR, to improve utilization - either that, or have QF operate JNB-LHR legs on behalf of BA - there was some issue because neither could use foreign-registered aircraft to operate routes out of SA, I believe. Would have been a good idea.
JNB is actually quite a good stopover point en route Europe-Australia, it makes the trip a big longer coming back because of the enormous headwinds on the westbound Southern Ocean leg, but eastbound its pretty quick.