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JAL 744 Returns To JFK? Engines?  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Weird thing this morning. Just before 8AM. A JAL 744 came in real low over us here in it's way to JFK. It is not a normal landing pattern and I heard him fooling with his engines. Sure seems like her was returning to JFK after a take-off. Don't know the flight#. Could someone find something out? Post it!

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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Come on any JFK employees here? I am almost positive this 744 had to return to JFK after departure. The Captain was really on the engines too. Also had his landing coming out very late in the final.

User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5676 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Have you tried going to jfktower.com and posting a message on the forum there? Some of the ATCs on that web site might know.


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User currently offlineJfkviaphx From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

0800 is the normal arrival time for JAL 46 ( I think that's the flight number). It goes out at 1010 as JAL 47 to NRT.

User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2600 times:

JAL 047 arrives from Sao Paulo/GRU...around 0800. Then continues on to Narita around 1000.

TokyoNarita.


User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2583 times:

The engine sounds you have heard was probely a 743 heavy appoching JFK


Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2568 times:

The flight should be operated by B744.

AMS...

Good work on your signiture there...


User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3242 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2549 times:

His flaps and spoilers were probably fully deployed, therefore needing to power up to maintain proper airspeed.


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User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2540 times:

TOKYONARITA,

Yes It was defenetly a 744, before the 743 was doing this Route!



Regards,
AMS




User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2507 times:

Come on any JFK employees here? I am almost positive this 744 had to return to JFK after departure. The Captain was really on the engines too. Also had his landing coming out very late in the final.

It was probably a visual approach - it's a nice day today and some airline pilots do ask for visual approaches to get on the ground faster. (Listen to the JFK tower sometime - you'll hear them. The tower ATC is available on the net.)

My last flight back from Japan on ANA, we did a really weird approach also - seemed to descend very fast and got on the localizer only a few miles from the airport. Probably also a visual approach (was a nice day as well).

The engine revving sounds pretty normal - with flaps and slats out to 30/40 degrees it can take a lot of power to make speed adjustments. And they may have also been a little low on the glideslope, judging by your description. But probably no big deal.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

It was a 400, saw the winglets. A friend of mine who is a CFI was there also and was a little concerned. He seemed to think the pilot wasn't having the easiest time. He was really low and in three years we have never seen a jumbo this low that far out from JFK coming over us in fact I would definitely say he was way too low for that distance out. I will try that site Nyc777. Thanks!

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