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User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7497 times:

Does anybody what the world's largest airline is in terms of the number of aircraft in their fleet and in the number of passengers carried last year? Thanks in advance for the help.

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User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7195 times:

I forgot to mention excluding cargo carriers

User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7168 times:

i believe AMERICAN has the most planes and carries the most people...but i don't have the numbers to back that up...

User currently offlineFLFlyGuy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 244 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7139 times:
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Per Air Transport World, July 2004:

# of Passengers (000)

1. American 88,241
2. Delta 84,245
3. Southwest 74,787
4. United 66,100
5. JAL Group 58, 241


OPERATING FLEET SIZE

1. American 754
2. United 517
3. Delta 494
4. Northwest 431
5. Southwest 393


IN RPK's (000,000)

1. American 193,604
2. United 167,970
3. Delta 143,896
4. Northwest 110,637
5. Air France 101,644


Hope this helps!



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User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7130 times:

Thanks a lot for your help. FLFlyGuy, for the number of aircraft, is that leased and owned or just owned. Thank you.


User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7134 times:

Without a doubt, American's the largest carrier in the world by fleet size, with 726 aircraft in its fleet (that's solely mainline, and does not include the AmericanEagle aircraft).

Now, if I'm not mistaken, Delta's actually the largest airline in the world based on passengers carried. However, that might've changed when American and TWA merged. Yet I'm still pretty convinced that Delta's the largest based on RPMs (Revenue Passenger Miles).

Anyone have any further information?

Derek


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7113 times:

1. American 754
2. United 517
3. Delta 494
4. Northwest 431
5. Southwest 393


...keep in mind that these numbers include mainline only. When you count the regional fleet of wholy owned subsidiaries, it changes (though AA is still on top, either way).


User currently offlineAdam727 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7102 times:

FYI Southwest has 400 aircraft in ther fleet now

User currently offlineFLFlyGuy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 244 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7097 times:
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Both leased and owned...I think it is anything flown under the carrier's operating certificate. But as Concordeboy notes, it doesn't include regional affilliates.


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User currently offlinePlanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6459 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7088 times:

In 2002, AA was the largest by RPM (121,646.2 mill. RPM). UAL had 109,378.8 mill. RPM and Delta had 95,207.9 mill. RPM.

In terms of revenue, AF/KLM is now the largest.



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7027 times:

Adam727,

I was wondering that when I saw the 400th 737. Is that 400th in service or 400th in the history of WN? Do they own all of their a/c or lease?

UA777222



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User currently offlineWestjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6956 times:

What about international carriers such as British Airways/Lufthansa/Air France, and does any one know the break down of those fleet numbers? Thanks


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User currently offlineFLFlyGuy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 244 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6929 times:
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The previous numbers were taken from the 7/2004 issue of ATW, in the "World's Top 25 Airlines" section. The remaining top 25 (for fleet numbers, which is what you said you were interested in):

6. Continental 351
7. Fedex 321
8. US Airways 280
9. Air France 248
10. Expressjet 230
11. British Airways 228
12. UPS 224
13. Lufthansa 218
14. JAL Group 215
15. American Eagle 212
16. Air Canada 196
17. SkyWest 192
18. Comair 158
20. Iberia 152
21. Atlantic Coast 150
22. America West 138
23. Qantas 133
24. All Nippon 130
25. Atlantic Southeast 130

Cheers.



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6883 times:

QF Group has 192 aircraft in it's fleet now which incorporates it regional QantasLink of 42 aircraft (10 BAE146, 32x Dash 8), Australian Airlines (5 aircraft - 767-300) and Jetstar (16 aircraft 14 x 717-200, 2 x A320) So those numbers are outdated. (source QF fleet listing)



User currently offlineBushcheney2004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6869 times:

Thanks a lot for all of your help. That is really interesting.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6824 times:

Bushcheney2004,

I love your handle! Just added you to my respected users, Yep by fleet size it's AA.



User currently offlineBa97 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6734 times:

Digression or diversion. I would have thought a carrier like BA would carry many more passengers than lists show given they seem to show up everywhere. They seem to have so many wide bodies-but is this the illusion of LHR being a hub.


there is economy class, business class, first class...then Concorde..pure class
User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

How large is AA's 737 fleet?
And isn't their MD80 and 757 fleet larger than DL right?



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User currently offlineCiccone From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 42 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6426 times:

TriJetFan1,

American's Fleet:
737NG: 77
MD80: 335
757: 139
767: 76
777: 45
A300: 32


Delta's Fleet:
737NG: 65
737: 57
757: 85
767: 121
777: 8
MD80/90: 136

These numbers only reflect what is currently in operation, not necessarily what the airline owns or has stored.

Hope this helps



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2648 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5972 times:
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Slightly outdated but Aeroflot used to be the biggest with more than 10000 aircraft

User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4860 times:

Holy moly.... I knew AA was the biggest, but I didnt know that it was the biggest by FAR. 139 757s and 45 777s?? That is...very large. lol....
United only has 97 752s and 55 762/3's But they do also have more 777's and 744's (obvi) than american. It seems that the MD-80 really is the backbone of AA's fleet, with 335 a/c. What will they REPLACE them with though??

-AA777


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3490 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Ciccone,

Your numbers are incaccurate. AA has 34 A300s, DL has 121 757-200s, and DL has 123 767s, and they have 71 737NGs, not 65.

Jeremy


User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17191 posts, RR: 66
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

AA does not plan to replace the MD-80s for a while. In fact, they are homogenising the fleet in terms of equipment and fixing up the interiors. I see them flying at least another decade.

When they will be replaced, my guess would be that AA will purchase either the 737NG or whatever comes after that, or the A32x or whatever comes after that, or some Embraer equivalent if there is one by then. Yes I know this is covering all the bases  Big grin

For those who think that AA "will never buy Airbus and blablabla", 10+ years is a long time and money talks.



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User currently offlineCiccone From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 42 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

SESGDL,

The numbers posted are only what is active in the fleet. If you take into consideration the number of stored aircraft, then your numbers would be correct. As for the Delta 757's, the numbers do not include the 36 that fly as Song.

Go to http://www.airfleets.net for a complete list of both fleets.

Ciccone



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3490 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

Well, I know from DL's site that they have 123 767s, and 71 737-800s, ALL of which are active. Your numbers were in the same ballpark, but I just wanted to post the exact numbers, including aircraft that are stored. DL has removed all of its 767s from the desert, and I've never heard of any 737-800s being stored.

Jeremy


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