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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 4139 times:
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Hey Guys,

My step dad will be going out to Eureka,CA (ACV) to help with opening a new bank on August 1st and I cant find anything under $1000 out of MSPWow! It is $700 out of our local airport (MCW) and $733 out of ALO! Can anyone find anything cheaper? United and Horizon have a monopoly on that route (obviously) so it's hard to find anything cheaper. Anything out of MCW,ALO,CID,DSM,MSP,RST,LSE that is at least reasonable (under $500) would be great! He would need to return late on the 7th or sometime during the 8th. Anyhelp is appreciated!

Thanks,
Kevin

EDIT: If anyone knows of any tourist attractions around ACV ( I would think the Ocean/ Beach assuming they have a beach), please let me know!

[Edited 2004-07-18 18:28:47]

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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

As you said, Northern California is very limited on service, so fares can be high. Not much population in that area. Mariner can probably talk much better about air service in that area than I can.

If he is willing to drive a few hours after arrival, also look at flying into Redding (about a 3 hour drive on highway 299, I did it last year and it wasn't a bad drive). Medford may also be an option but about a 4-5 hour drive. Otherwise its fly into the Bay Area and drive highway 101 about 6 hours.

Aug 6 Allegiant starts LAS-RDD flights which might allow for some kind of connection in LAS in the future.

We were just in that area last summer. Downtown Arcata has a nice walking tour of Victorian homes. The downtown plaza can make for interesting people watching, many of what can be described as members of the Rainbow Family or hippies spend time there. Lots of beads and tie-dye.

Since this is Northern California, don't expect the TV beaches. Weather even in August will be cool to cold. Average high temps during August are in the mid-60s. The coastline is rugged and scenic.

He will probably want to see the Giant Redwood trees. There are several groves of Coast Redwoods in the area. Two of the best known areas are the "Avenue of the Giants" south of Eureka and Redwood National Park an hour north. These rain forests are a peaceful and awe-inspiring look at nature.
http://www.nps.gov/redw/home.html

Downtown Eureka has preserved many of its old buildings. The waterfront area is interesting to visit for a look at a variety of commercial and private ships. We caught a nice lunch in the harbor on an island facing the town.









"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

If the Pacific Lumber factory is still open in Scotia, that is a very interesting place to learn about the logging industry as well. You can clearly see where they clearcut & how they regrow the forest. There are also plenty of trails and other areas if you are a backpacker... the rivers (for some reason Snake keeps popping in my mind) are extremely clean & picturesque.

Also near Scotia is Ferndale, the city that was used in the movie "Outbreak". the beach is just west of Ferndale, although you'll see more people surfing than swimming. There is a pier alongside the beach that juts out about a quarter mile, but bring your rain gear, normally the waves are crashing & getting everything soaked.

In regards to a cheap ticket, good luck. I've had to fly there via SAN on UA to get a cheap rate (go figure). I flew there with my mum when I was 15 and we flew STL-DEN-SAN-SFO-ACV for about $350 r/t compared to $650 for STL-DEN-SFO-ACV. Normally you can get there on United from LAS for $200 r/t, so it wouldn't hurt to look at flying AirTran to LAS then UA to SFO, then ACV. Get creative with your routings.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Looks like you're within the 14-day advance-purchase time period, so without any LCC competition, this will be an expensive route.


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineWGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Nothern California actually can get pretty warm in the summer, but primarily in the inland regions, far away from Eureka.

I was last in Eureka in 1992 but remember it as a charming coastal town with superb victorian architecture.

The fares travelling into Northern California are always high, as there are no major airports north of Sacramento. Most service is provided by the express divisions of major airlines.

-WGW2707


User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

It doesn't matter if its 14 day advance purchase or not.. you'll looking to travel during a long weekend ... and the problem is that most flights are full as they are already with heavy summer traffic.

What day exactly does he want to arrive in Eureka? Aug 1st is obviously too late considering that all connecting flights into ACV from flights from MSP will be too late.

Looking at the original fare rules, you do need 14 day advance purchase.. but travel agents KNOW that this isn't necessarily the case. Travel agents have ways of finding and getting fares that require 14-21 day advance purchase in as short notice as 3 days! Does your step-dad mind stopping over someone along the way for the night enroute to final destination?

What is your budget? I found fares around $400-$500'ish for travel 30July and returning 6th August. You won't be able to find the fares you want easily using on-line websites... so you might want to ask your step-dad to enlist the services of a travel agent to do that.

[Edited 2004-07-18 22:31:18]

[Edited 2004-07-18 22:32:11]

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3950 times:
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What is your budget?

Well, the company will pay for the tickets, but he would like to keep costs to a minimum ( and so would they).

I found fares around $400-$500'ish for travel 30July and returning 6th August

Well that wont work very well, since he comes home from LAS on the 30th.

If he is willing to drive a few hours after arrival, also look at flying into Redding (about a 3 hour drive on highway 299, I did it last year and it wasn't a bad drive). Medford may also be an option but about a 4-5 hour drive. Otherwise its fly into the Bay Area and drive highway 101 about 6 hours.

He talked about flying into OAK or SFO, but that is a 6 hour drive so i'm not sure if he would be intrested.

A flight from DSM or CID to RDD would be a option, although it would require a overnight stay in LAS since he wouldn't be able to make the connecting flight.





User currently offlineBtv92 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Hi Kevin,I found a RT fare on United(non-refundable) leaving MSP Sunday(8/1) morning 6:45AM connecting thru Denver and SFO for $529,including all taxes.I went to Yahoo,which uses Travelocity,put in specific dates of Aug. 1st leaving MSP,Aug.8th leaving ACV(connects thru Sacremento and Denver on the return). I can e-mail it to you if you like,let me know.The original search turned up a $750 lowest fare available,then I noticed a little box at the top of the page that said $529 RT for nearby dates. It was pretty easy,but I do this alot for friends and know the systems well. Cheers,Tim P.S. There is no-way to fly out of MSP without doing the 2 connections.I can see what Des Moines brings up.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3930 times:
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There is no-way to fly out of MSP without doing the 2 connections.

That's weird, dont they just have N/S to SFO then he can do a plane change there?

I found a RT fare on United(non-refundable) leaving MSP Sunday(8/1) morning 6:45AM connecting thru Denver and SFO for $529,including all taxes.I went to Yahoo,which uses Travelocity,

Well if worst comes to worst I guess that would work, its about 150 miles up to MSP so he would have to leave here very early to get there for the 6:45 a.m. departure, too bad they don't have anything reasonable out of MCW, that's much more convienent and closer.


[Edited 2004-07-18 23:22:34]

[Edited 2004-07-18 23:25:06]

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

He should drive up to Canada to take his flight. Wink/being sarcastic

I am going to California in August and when I made the reservation two weeks ago, I paid 270$+taxes for my tickets with NW (YUL-DTW-SFO/SAN-MSP-YUL). Those prices seem to be only available to Canadian travelers though!  Big thumbs up



E volavo, volavo felice più in alto del sole, e ancora più su mentre il mondo pian piano spariva lontano laggiù ...
User currently offlineBtv92 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Yes, you could fly nonstop MSP to SFO then take the commuter prop connection from there to Eureka,But,you'd be looking at 2 separate tickets(and even multiple carriers) according to United.They price tickets with the connections(time-factor) built into the ticket,so you don't sit in SFO(or SMF) for 5 hours waiting for the Skywest prop plane.Try pricing a 14-day nonrefundable SFO-ACV ticket added to a 14-day MSP-SFO ticket.The combination of the 2 fares is going to be much more than $500. Bear in mind that whatever you decide to buy,today is the 14-day cutoff,as Aug.1st is a Sunday,2 weeks from today.He has to stay over a Saturday night to meet the cheapest nonrefundable 14-day requirement,but that shouldn't be a problem if he wants to return Sun.Aug.8th.If there was a LCC between MSP and SFO or SMF,it would be a great way to save $,then you could just work on finding the cheapest RT Eureka-SFO or Eureka-SMF ticket.I'd suggest going to a travel agent as there are too many options and their computer reservations connections are better than anything you or I can find on our own.That means you miss the 14-day requirement,but there are always ways around it.Good luck. Tim

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

I need to take a trip like that someday. I've lived in (Southern) California my whole life and have never ventured any further north than Merced/Atwater.

User currently offlineBtv92 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Looked a bit more on Travelocity and found a $510 RT from CID to ACV for same dates as above.Connect via ORD and SFO outbound,connect via SFO and DEN on return(even has a 777 in there and a CRJ-700 to CID).It's 8-9hrs each way for every itinerary I saw.$510 is a good price and CID is closer to you than MSP I hope. Tim

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3855 times:
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Yes CID is a little bit closer. Thanks for the help you guys, I'll talk with my step dad tonight and see what he wants to book.

User currently offlineStarCruiser From United States of America, joined May 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Wow, sounds like quite an area to visit. The climate in Northern California has always been a major drawing card for me. I haven't been north of the wine country in Napa and Sonoma Counties, particularly the Korbel winery in Guerneville. Korbel champagne was always my parents' favorite so I had to take them a couple of bottles each time I ventured up that way. It was a great trade as I got one of my mother's home cooked meals in return.

When checking the map I noticed Fort Bragg was up the coast too. How do those going there get there? I would think Fort Bragg would have a lot of traffic unless they just run military shuttles somewhere.

Is there train service of any sort? I thought there was a coastal run just for the scenery. Sorry to ask dumb questions, but living in IND I don't get up that way very often.


User currently offlineRareBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Ft. Bragg, CA is not an Army Post. The Army Ft Bragg is in North Carolina. This town in CA has no Army connection that I can find, and it's not listed on the Army website.

Even the 6-hour drive from SFO to Eureka would not be bad. It's beautiful country, and would be worth the drive if you've not seen it before.

Fares from MSP to SFO are less than $400.00 R/T.



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User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

I've flown into Eureka/Arcata several times, and the service just blows at the airport.

United pretty much has a stranglehold on flights there (from SFO), and prices are not good. Oh, and beware that this airport is one of the foggiest in the country, so flights are frequently cancelled. And United's staff there has to be some of the most unhelpful staff I've seen anywhere during those situations.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3676 times:

Ft. Bragg, California was originally an army outpost to maintain order at the nearby Indian reservation. But the military left in 1864.

Today it is a small tourist and fishing town. We stayed on the Noyo River harbor about 6 years ago. Nice and peaceful. http://www.fortbragg.com/attractions.html

StarCruiser, there is no regular train passenger service that runs near the coast north of San Francisco. Amtrak weaves in and out along the coast from San Diego to San Luis Obispo, then runs several miles inland until the Bay Area. It then turns toward Sacramento and then goes up the center of the state to Oregon. There is a small steam powered tourist train, the Skunk Train, that runs out of Ft. Bragg but it goes inland. The Skunk Train is a popular ride through the forests.

[Edited 2004-07-19 17:40:53]


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User currently offlineRareBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

FATFlyer:

That's why I couldn't find any reference to any Army presence at FT Bragg. They haven't been there in 140 years.

Thanks for the info.



Illegitimus non carborundum
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

I would strongly advise against using RDD as a jumpoff for Arcata/Eureka.
I think it's CA299 the state highway. A beautiful trip, but long and winding as it struggles to cross the crest of the Coast range. This time of year it's full of slow moving motorhomes and other slow moving vacationeers.
It is possible to leave RDD with a temperature of 105, and arrive in Eureka 50 degrees cooler. The record high temp on Aug 1, is a mere 69 degrees F.
Try Medford OR. Better road. Not sure if a better fare can be found...

Best bet unfortunately, is fly directly into the local airport.
Sure the drive from SFO is "ONLY" six hours, but depending on the time of day, it could be 2 hours just from the airport to Marin, and then another 5 and a half up. And just because its Sunday, doesn't matter, traffic in NorCal is notoriously evil every day.

How is your dad, after flying all day, going to like this drive? Granted, CalTrans has made many improvements to 101, but it is still a hard drive...many 2 lane portions, slow logging trucks, long up grades, curves and slow moving tourists unfamiliar with the road....it can add up to a trip in the neighborhood of 8 to 9 hours. Getting out of the Bay Area is hard enough.

If you are dead-set on getting a cheap fare, look at flying WN from OMA to SMF. Getting to Eureka is actually quicker from Sacramento, since one doesn't need to navigate the bay area traffic hell. Airport is north of the city, just hop on 5 north, cut over to Clear Lake, then catch 101 well north of the Bay Area traffic effect, this can be done, within five hours. And more consistently throughout the days and weeks...
If this proposal is not the best, I will personally come out and wash your dad's car.





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User currently offlineStarCruiser From United States of America, joined May 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 3518 times:

RareBear said:

"Ft. Bragg, CA is not an Army Post. The Army Ft Bragg is in North Carolina. This town in CA has no Army connection that I can find, and it's not listed on the Army website."

*************

Thanks to all of you. It's not fair that there are two places named Fort Bragg as it's confusing. LOL! But then aren't there four Springfields too? Let's see, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio and Massachusetts. Don't tell me, there's a Springfield, Georgia, too?

Interesting that Fort Bragg's military history ended so long ago in California. Oh well, I am heading to SMF in two weeks but won't have time to visit the northland this trip. It would have been nice otherwise.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3493 times:


Then there is SPRINGFIELD OREGON...



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5844 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

stirling, I drove 299 Redding to Eureka last summer and had very little traffic. Heavy traffic may appear on some days or at some times however.


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3388 times:
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Got it booked, pretty amazing what he flies on, all the way from a EMB-120 to a 777!

Departure Aug. 1st- He goes MSP-TUS-DEN-SFO-ACV on the way there and ACV-SFO-LAS-MSP on the way back.

MSP-TUS- A320- NW
TUS-DEN - 735-UA
DEN-SFO - 777-UA
SFO-ACV (Eureka, California) CRJ- Skywest

Coming back Aug. 6th

ACV-SFO- EMB-120- Skywest
SFO-LAS - A319-UA
LAS-MSP - A320- NW

He has 43 minutes to connect in DEN on the way there, would that be enough time to connect? He hasn't been to the new Denver Airport yet so not sure as to how far it would be to walk for his connecting flight to SFO. It seems to me that with the long taxis it would be pushing it. His flight from TUS would arrive at 4:57 p.m. and departure to SFO is 5:40 p.m. What is your opinions?? Is that too small of amount of time?







User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3331 times:
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Anyone been to the new DEN airport and know if that's enough time???  Confused

25 Post contains images Miaskies : MIA-SFO AA ROUNDTRIP USD$215.00 hows that for Cheap?
26 AirplanePeanut : Priceline Name-Your-Own-Price Offer Price: $1.00 (per ticket) Applicable Taxes: $40.40 (per ticket) Ticket Cost: $41.40 (per ticket) Processing Fee: $
27 Stirling : Fatflyer- Thanks for setting me straight on 299. Admittedly, the last time I was on that highway was several years ago. How long did it take you to ge
28 TransSwede : Make sure that there is PLENTY of stopover time at SFO if connecting to ACV. Both ACV and SFO are notorious for delays. (and cancellations)
29 FATFlyer : stirling, Seems to me it took us about 3 hours to drive 299 from Redding to Arcata. No problems or traffic. Now, the Clear Lake highway was another st
30 Iowaman : Priceline Name-Your-Own-Price Offer Price: $1.00 (per ticket) Applicable Taxes: $40.40 (per ticket) Ticket Cost: $41.40 (per ticket) Processing Fee: $
31 Mattnrsa : 43 minutes would definitely be enough time to connect in DEN. Both flts will arrv/dept from B Concourse. Not much time to check out the concourse, but
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