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Movement On DL-MD-11 Ship 802  
User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11507 times:

Delta has moved ship 802 out of TOC to Delta North...it appears that the right engine is missing and the others are taped up..no idea what they are going to do at this moment.

TokyoNarita.



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11210 times:
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Unless something's changed in the last week, it's also missing many, many of its control surfaces (obvious parts borrowing going on).

I imagine they finally decided they needed the room outside the TOC ... either that or they finally realized that leaving that plane there - in its current shape - is not what you want a large chunk of your outbound passengers to see while they're taxiing to the runway.

- litz


User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11174 times:

The tail section of the aircraft is missing some pieces.

Obviously it does not look like it is going anywhere anytime soon.

TokyoNarita.


User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11102 times:
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OK, I'll bite. What is TOC? Technical Overhaul Center? And does this particular MD11 hold any significance. Thanks for indulging me with an answer but I'm interested.


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User currently offlineAuae From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 296 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11040 times:

TOC, is Technical Operations Center...so you were close. The shortened trademarked name is now TechOps.

802 had a bit of trouble during a run up on the ground and torched some wing structure. Rumor has it that it is going to get repaired sooner or later.



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10867 times:
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Auae

Thank you. I'd not heard about that. I try to keep up in the shrinking number of MD-11s. I've worked KLMs and it sure was nice compared to the -10s at least as far as the actually working equipment was concerned.



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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 10844 times:

Strange, I have heard rumors to the opposite... That Boeing is in the process of parting it out.


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User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10783 times:

Correct this is being parted out. It will be easier for trukes to take the scrap pieces from Delta North rather than the TOC. However we have the possibiity of reativating some five others late this year.


KATL
User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10769 times:

this is being parted out

I will have a great view from my office!!!


User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10686 times:

Me too it is my office. Midfield Support


KATL
User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10655 times:

Im just across the street on the 7th floor.

been on 802 many times to NRT... including those PDX and LAX years.

TokyoNarita.


User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10570 times:

I'll keep you updated. Flt55 was one my favorite flights to ensure a grand departure from E11.


KATL
User currently offlineDeltadude8 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 569 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10541 times:

DAL7001...how likely is it we will see the MD-11's back in the sky with DL?

User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10521 times:

Possibly at yeas end at the latest. Capacity/routes being added so equipment and retiring pilots stir the issue of the MD11



KATL
User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10487 times:

So why'd they decide to part her out? Last I heard, they were going to have it up flying again, as it was a leased a/c...will be kinda sad to see one of Delta's own being pulled apart on airport grounds  Sad

Good to see that rumor may prove to be true...will be nice to see a 3-holer back in ATL. Now, they leased 2 of them to World, right? So those two, minus 802, what will that leave DL with?

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10474 times:

802 went back to Boeing and they are parting it out. We have three in Canada that can be activated rather quick. We service World and I believe they have three of them. I am not up to date with the CC contracts. Another note we just flew in 106 and 767 ex GYR,, rather torn but manageble when 114 gets out of the TOC. Let me look at the books on the exact avail/active 11's


KATL
User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 10433 times:

>802 went back to Boeing and they are parting it out

Do you mean parting it out as in scrapping it? Is the resale for MD-11s so low that a little scorch will write off an entire 10 year old widebody aircraft? I find that hard to believe.


User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10375 times:

"parting out" is stripping a plane of all its usable parts. It is what occurs prior to scrapping. Parting out is not scrapping, but the precursor to it.

User currently offlineN685FE From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 451 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10326 times:




I just searched the database for current pics of 802, none found. Could any of you guys at ATL load some pics of it?

Thanks.




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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10318 times:

"Little scorch" is a bit of an understatement. Perhaps if the flames didn't travel along the side of the fuselage, damaging the wing/body fairing, windows, flaps, pylon, etc. it wouldn't have been considered. With the number of airframes currently flying, perhaps this airframe is worth more in parts than it would be after repairs. Purely an accounting decision. Looks like we'll be down to 194 of the 200 total MD-11s produced. But think of it this way, for every MD-11 taken out of passenger service, there's one more opportunity for Boeing to sell a 777 instead.


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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10264 times:

I saw Ship 802 in ATL on Sunday July 18, 2004. It looked like it was in pretty nasty condition. Engines were taped up, and everything.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9694 times:


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Can't see much damage on her but I think this is a picture of her parked at the Delta TOC. March of this year so pretty new. If you can't find her shes in the right side a part from the 3 767's.

Thanks again guys!

UA777222



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User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9321 times:

Could somebody give a written source for the information that N802DE is being parted out, as I would like to report this to JACDEC.

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9141 times:

This has to be the first -11 to be parted out , right ? The other missing -11's are Swiss,Fed Ex, Mandarin , Korean and .......... ?


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User currently offlineAuae From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 296 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 9032 times:

I would hold your horses on that rumor. I am still hearing that 802 is going to be fixed. I am just a peon here at DL, but I just talked to a good pal over at TOC, no news of parting it out over there. So until I see a wrecking ball parked outside of Delta North, I would assume it is going to be fixed.

Also, I don't think any of the MD-11 leases are up for a good many years. If DL could have turned any over to the Lessor, I think they would have long before now.

Last I checked, World did not have 3 DL MD-11's either.

So just where do you get your info DAL7001????

Shawn



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25 Post contains images LVZXV : My solution: Patch it up and sell it to A4! XV
26 Litz : Remember - *limited* parting out can occur and the aircraft still eventually get fixed. It's a lot easier for DL, when servicing another MD-11, to pul
27 Spacepope : United_Fan; Your tally there is pretty good. 5 hull losses so far are: Swiss, Mandaran, Korean, and FedEx (x2).
28 Starrion : What conditions would need to be met in order for DL to bring back the MD-11's, given DL declared them in Temporary retirement? I think they would nee
29 Srbmod : It may not get actually torn apart though - there's a 737 over there that Airtran apparently bonked on landing years and years ago ... it's still sitt
30 Squirrel83 : OK this is the only Recent DL MD-11 post I can find ~ I was curious is this the last MD-11 DL Has in service, I noticed on their webpage that they sti
31 Spacepope : No, Squirrel. The MD-11 is not currently in service with DL. Many are parked at GYR I believe.
32 Wjcandee : World has 803DE and 804DE. I think that they are on power-by-the-hour leases. Delta TOC has maintenance contracts with World for all sorts of work on
33 Dalmd88 : Ship 802 is NOT being parted out. Boeing and the insurance underwriters have finally come to terms. It was moved to Delta North were a Boeing RAM team
34 Vikingair : Latest is yes 802 will be repaired, and World does have 803DE and 804DE leased from Delta. Ship 803DE is right in front of the T.O.C. as of this writi
35 Tsl1011 : Dal7001 said (in reply 15) "we have three in Canada that can be activated rather quick". I didn't realize there were any MD-11s up here! Who is opera
36 Modesto2 : The other MD11's in Canada are in storage.
37 Post contains images SafetyDude : But think of it this way, for every MD-11 taken out of passenger service, there's one more opportunity for Boeing to sell a 777 instead. True, but tha
38 Delta777-xxx : i'm working over in the ASA building this week, ill try to snap some pics for you guys.
39 DAL7001 : If your going to take a picture of her go around the fence and take a good one. The one inside the check point is not so pretty. We have many parts re
40 DAL7001 : Looks like 802 will be repaired and leased to World Airways. We can't keep it hidden @ DN forever.
41 CAL : I was in ATL yesterday and while taxing out to take off i noticed what i thought was a World Airways MD-11 in the Delta hangar. Any info on this???
42 DAL7001 : They have leases on 2. We provide the MTC for them. 802 is at the north end ( Delta North ).
43 EAL727 : How disappointing. Still no pics of Ship 802? Any updates on it's movements at ATL?
44 Vikingair : World MD-11 N272WA was at Delta for a #2 Engine change due to time...
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