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United Expands At ORD And IAD  
User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1393 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4827 times:


United Announces Significant Service Expansion from Chicago O’Hare and Washington Dulles

July 20, 2004

Additional daily flights serving 11 new markets open for sale
CHICAGO, July 20, 2004 - Beginning this fall and winter, United and United Express will introduce daily nonstop service in several markets from its Chicago O'Hare and Washington Dulles hub airports. The flight expansion increases United's breadth of service to cities where customer demand for air service is growing.

For Chicago O'Hare, the new daily service to six destinations will bring the total number of markets served nonstop by United and United Express to 134. Combined, United and United Express serve the most markets of any airline from Chicago O'Hare.

From Washington Dulles, new daily nonstop roundtrips to five cities will bring the total United and United Express markets served to 81, which is more than double the markets served by our nearest competitor at Dulles.

"Together with our United Express carriers, we continue to provide flights and schedules that our customers need and want," said John Tague, executive vice president of marketing, sales and revenue. "Our goal is to offer the best routes and most convenient schedules for our customers."

Service Expansion
From Chicago O'Hare, United on Oct. 4, 2004, will offer two daily nonstop roundtrip flights to Albuquerque, N.M., and Tucson, Ariz., as well as one daily flight to Palm Springs, Calif., with seasonal service through April 2005. United Express carrier SkyWest also will add regional jet service from O'Hare to Edmonton, Canada, with two daily nonstop flights. In time for holiday travel, United on Dec. 16, 2004, will increase service to Aruba from Chicago O'Hare with one daily roundtrip, replacing the Saturday-only service.

From Washington Dulles, also effective on Oct. 4, 2004, United Express carriers will operate three daily roundtrips to Memphis, Tenn., and Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, Pa., and two daily roundtrip flights to Milwaukee. The Memphis and Milwaukee flights will be operated by Air Wisconsin, and Shuttle America will operate the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, Pa., service. Then on Oct. 17, 2004, United Express carrier Chautauqua Airlines begins nonstop service between Washington Dulles and Houston with two daily roundtrips, adding a third daily flight beginning on Oct. 31, 2004. Finally, effective Feb. 15, 2005, United Express carrier Air Wisconsin will introduce regional jet service to Myrtle Beach, S.C., with two daily flights from Chicago O'Hare and four daily flights from Washington Dulles.

All new flights open for sale today, except Myrtle Beach flights, which open for sale on Thursday, July 22.

About United
United, United Express and Ted (OTCBB: UALAQ.OB) operate more than 3,500 flights a day on a route network that spans the globe. News releases and other information about United can be found at the company's web site at www.united.com.

[Edited 2004-07-20 19:55:34]

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User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4737 times:

Is this a net addition of flights at ORD?


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4689 times:

Yes, this is correct for more flight out of ORD & IAD and this is really good news for increase flights from ORD-AUA and they are doing so well wtih service to Aruba flight.

User currently offlineAlitaliaORD From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4675 times:

I love it, except...will this add to the delays at ORD?

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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

Yes, it might to get delays at ORD and they already make reduce some of those flights out there at ORD. This is make saving time with both flight with AA & UA.

Here with the Yahoo News for expands more service from ORD-PSP, ABQ, TUS, AUA. Here it is:


User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1418 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4635 times:

The IAD-MKE routing is not at all surprising as I expected Air Wisconsin to pick up a lot of the RJ flying at Dulles upon ACA's endeavor into iAir. In fact, I suppose I'm a bit surprised it didn't happen sooner.

Good to see expansion, but I too wonder about ORD's ability to take on more flights like this...


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User currently offlineIowaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

I thought United was supposed to CUT BACK on the amount of departures/arrivals, not add more!  Insane

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7856 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

I believe both United and American reduced flights for the summer season, when weather related delays are more of a problem. Though the handful of flights really isn't that much of an expansion at ORD. TUS and ABQ have been on and off markets for United, sometimes having seasonal service, sometimes Saturday only... either way it saves many travelers who prefer United a double connect via DEN to get to the east.

The Dulles expansion seems rather meager. 3x ERJ to Houston. Seems like they could do more than 150 seats a day on that market.

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User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 510 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4470 times:

Just a thought I want to throw out, nothing more...

Do you think they'll ever be a chance of a non-stop IAD-HNL flight? Or is this a stupid idea since they have recently started the ORD flight again? I think the load factor would be great. Who knows, maybe I'm just out in left field. Let me know what you think.

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4437 times:

The IAD-IAH route (flown in years past) will be one of the first flown by Republic Airways' EMB-170s.

User currently offlineUnited777ORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4397 times:

When is United Express going to do nonstop service from Chicago O'Hare to Augusta, GA?

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

Hallelujah, I finally get my IAD-IAH nonstop so I can fly from JFK to IAH on UA without double-connecting, or connecting through SFO...

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User currently offlinePotomac From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

nice to see the expansion at IAD. it's not a massive addition of service, but i think it's significant, and speaks well towards the often-doubted commitment of UA to the IAD hub. interesting how UA is attacking on a couple of fronts here by 1) going into NW, Midwest, and CO's dominant service to MEM, MKE, and IAH, respectively, and 2) also broadening its overall O&D and connecting network through IAD to keep a leg up on Indy.

User currently offlineNwa747-400 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Mostly express flights doing the expansion

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

why in the world would you go to SFO to get to IAH? Do you really love flying that much?


User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

MILE$$$$$ is why he'd fly to SFO to get to IAH :P

I used to fly FLL-ORD-SFO-LAX-LAS  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

hey, it made me Premier Exec for 2 years

I think one run I did LAS-SFO-JFK-IAD-SFO-LAX-LAS one day when I got bored.


The added flights are only 15 or so per day. United is using their gates to their maximum. I believe that with this type of growth pattern, UA is still 80 flights below what they were at pre 9/11. (just more flights done by Toy Jets versus the 737s and 727s).

I think the IAD growth is more forward thinking, something UA needs to do to survive. They just need to let IndyAir do what they want, and UA focus on getting higher yield on board their own aircraft & sacrificing yield to push a competitor out of the market just doesn't do it (unless you are American Airlines)


User currently offlineStarCruiser From United States of America, joined May 2004, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

I seem to recall reading about how UA and AA at ORD's request were depeaking their operations to reduce delays. Invariably, other airlines quickly added to their own flights defeating that purpose. Is UA adding to the glut now too?

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