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NW Crash In The 80s  
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

I think it was in 1987 when a NW DC-9 crashed in Detroit and only the little girl survived...does anyone know what happened to the girl..she has to be at least 21 or so? I was just wondering.


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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3602 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8167 times:

She has done everything she can to maintain her privacy, apparently. Like you, I was curious to hear her story as well and Googled her name a while back; the only results I found were a couple news articles from that time and at least one mention that she does not want to talk about the crash at all.

Can't remember her name now, but if you just search around the net for the crash you'll find it. I think we should respect her wishes and let her be, though... I'm sure it must have been a tough time for her (and for years afterwards).



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8150 times:

I know what you mean...i don't want to invade her privacy either..i was just wondering and hoping that she is doing well...i could see why she would not want to talk about it...


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User currently offlineOrd From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8134 times:

I believe that was the crash in August 1987. That was the flight from Detroit to Orange County with a stop in Phoenix. If I remember correctly the flight crew was in such a rush to take off and get to Orange County before the evening curfew that they forget to set the flaps, causing the crash. Several prominent GM engineers were onboard and died, and I heard that after the crash GM did not allow top execs to travel together anymore.

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10630 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8115 times:

The aircraft in question was MD-81 inherited from Republic Airlines the year before. If memory serves me right it was still operating in their blue/turqoise colours with NW titles.

User currently offlineWingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 637 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8104 times:

I think that the girl now sits on the board of directors for NW and is largest share holder. She probably has voting power on every NW decision.......

But realisticly, I don't have a clue!

WingnutMN



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8102 times:

"I think it was in 1987 when a NW DC-9 crashed in Detroit and only the little girl survived...does anyone know what happened to the girl..she has to be at least 21 or so? I was just wondering."

DC-9!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? It was an MD-80 with a cockpit containing 2 Republic pilots from the merger last October 1. So the corrected version is:

"I think it was in 1987 when a NW MD-80 crashed in Detroit and only the little girl survived...does anyone know what happened to the girl..she has to be at least 21 or so? I was just wondering."

That is all.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8100 times:

Dude...chill out...take a pill or something...take a ride on a DC-9...just chill man


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User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8065 times:

NWADC9 - DUDE, SETTLE DOWN!!! MD80, DC9, whats the difference? And anyways, people do make mistakes, ya don't have to jump on them like that.

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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10630 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8046 times:


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The crashed airplane.

MD-82, or DC-9-82, both designations are correct.


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8031 times:

A Detroit radio station did a follow up on the girl last August. She is living in the south, or was last summer. She has no memory of what happened August 16, 1987. She was two years old at the time and after the incident, was raised by relatives.
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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6086 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8020 times:

I actually saw the planes mins. before it crashed. My flight ( a United 727) to Clevelnad was the plane that took off right before it. I remember like it was yesterday, arriving in Cleveland and every person waiting for arriving passengers were white as ghost. They all knew a plane had crashed on takeoff from Detroit, but no UA people were there to assure them it was not the United flight.

On a side note: When I moved to California in high school, there was a little memorial at the school for a passenger. One of the people that lost there life was an ex-basketball player from Hillsdale High School, San Mateo, CA. He played for the Phoenix Suns at the time of the crash. There is a memorial for him on the wall, in the gym, at the school.


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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10630 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7972 times:

As739x,

was the aircraft still in the hybrid livery as in the picture I linked, or did it carry a red tail?


User currently offline757225 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7929 times:
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The aircraft was a DC9-51 not an MD82 or DC9-82 with no red tail

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3802 posts, RR: 29
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7915 times:

When the crash of NW MD-80 N312RC occurred, the aircraft was in a later hybrid livery than the one pictured in Reply 9 posted by Na. The only fuselage stripe remaining was the dark blue stripe at cabin floor level. Titles were the same as pictured and, yes, the tail had been painted red. My info is based on a slide (sold to the now defunct ATP/Airliners America) of the subject aircraft taken at MSP something like 16 days before the crash occurred.

User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2897 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7898 times:

I was living in Detroit at the time, and it was big news. I still remember "Flight 255". I still remember the little girls name, however I haven't seen it mentioned here, and I won't repeat it anyway for the sake of her privacy.

757225 you are flat out wrong. It was a MD-82, N312RC.



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7890 times:

Tango-Bravo has it right..I flew N312RC DTW-CLE when it was Republic in October of 1985.
On Aug 16 of 1987, the plane was in Republic colors with a Northwest banner on the fuselage.
When the plane was built it, was labeled an DC-9 Super 80 by the manufacturer...later to be called MD-80.
safe






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User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2015 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

The little girl's name was Cecilia Cichan (pronounced "shee-un"). Last I heard, she was living in the south with members of her extended family, who adopted her after she recovered from the crash.

I doubt she has any memory of the crash at all. How much do we remember from when we were two years old?

I was only seven years old when the accident happened, but I remember hearing about it on the radio in our car. My dad explained that one "lucky girl" had lived because her mother protected her in the crash. I'm not sure how much water that story carries, although it's theorized she did survive because her mother's body prevented her from inhaling flames from the flash fire that filled the cabin on impact.


User currently offlineBUFJets From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7870 times:

757225- I was a MD-82 with registration N312RC as previously noted by Na. I verified this at airdisaster.com

User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7865 times:

i think i had my question answered..let's leave it alone..seems to be a touchy subject which is understandable...i hope that she is doing well..that is all i will say.


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User currently offlineNWA Man From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7806 times:

http://www.flight255memorial.com for more details...



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N-Dub



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7694 times:

DC-9!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? It was an MD-80 ..


The actual model is the McDonnell Douglas DC-9-80. So he is correct.



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User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7144 times:

if anyone wants to read about accident report go here:

http://www2.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001213X31759&key=1

btw, it was a dc-9-82...


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8189 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7031 times:

Yeah I was just gunna say he's right by saying DC-9. Douglas DC-9-82 is the proper name, we just all call it the MD-82.


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User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

Hey I think this topic has got a little out of control and people have forgotten the real fact of the matter here that we are discussing an air disaster involving a plane full of over 150 people who were killed, and the little girl who survived must still to this day carry that bad memory and trauma with her. I dont think this is the correct place to be arguing about whether it was it should be classified as a DC-9 or MD-80, especially as they are both virtually the same thing anyway!

Carl



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25 7E72004 : Exactly...the point of my post was that i was wondering how the only survivor was doing...not whether it was a DC-9 or an MD-82 or whatever.
26 Post contains links NWADC9 : Oh, and one more thing, the girl was 4-years-old, not 2. Source: "A 4-year-old girl was the only survivor." See http://www.flight255memorial.com if yo
27 Jj : As739x You mention that a Suns player died in the accident. was the layer, by any chance, named Nick Vanos? I was recently reviewing NBA rosters and i
28 Positive rate : Well if she was 4 at the time maybe she does have some memories of that day. Imagine how she feels though to be the only survivor out of 150 or so peo
29 Isitsafenow : Positive Rate....Please read my post above about ....Detroit radio station, under NA's Republic MD 80 photo. She was 2 years old or just under, and in
30 Learjet23 : That family lived near me at the Lakes in Tempe. She went to be with family in Alabama after rehab. My kids wanted to be on that flight, They wanted t
31 NWA Man : Jj - Vanos was the Sun that passed in the crash. Rest in peace to him and all of those who perished on NW255. Regards, N-Dub
32 Neilalp : On a side note, it is amazing how different the freeway looked back then...in some of the pictures. Also where does that memorial stand now, I've neve
33 Jetpixx : NWADC9 are the reason that I am quickly losing my enthusiasm for A.net. People who jump all over others for making a simple error are very irritating
34 PSU.DTW.SCE : I remember the night of that crash too even though I also was only 7. It was a hot summer night and I remember them breaking in on the TV news about t
35 Post contains links Av8trxx : I remember hearing on the news that the aunt (?) that was going to take her in BHM was talking of adopting her and changing her name. Wonder if she ev
36 Positive rate : On a side note does anyone think the outcome of this would have been different had it occured at daytime instead of 8:30 at night? Maybe in the day so
37 Luv2fly : Positive rate It was still light out when this happened, not totally dark. I myself think not, also it could have been worse for those on the ground a
38 HlywdCatft : From what I recall, there were thunderstorms nearby that night. I was living in Livonia at the time and I remember storms. The paper published the coc
39 Neilalp : It is amazing when it come to so many things on who knows who. What is that the rule of 5? And it is so scary how 1 extra minute can change your life.
40 EMBQA : DC-9!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? It was an MD-80........ Oh, and one more thing.... I reality there is only one true MD-80 series aircraft... The MD-88. All the
41 Isitsafenow : The McDonnell Douglas production book shows airframe #48090 as a DC 9-82. Thanks EMBQA..thats should set it straight... press on, ya'all safe
42 Post contains links Spacecadet : http://amelia.db.erau.edu/reports/ntsb/aar/AAR88-05.pdf DC-9-82 there as well. I call case closed on this one. I remember back when this type first fl
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