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Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai  
User currently offlineB727fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7695 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040721/ts_afp/britain_turkey_air

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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7483 times:

Why is Boeing shutting down the 757 line?  Big grin

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17068 posts, RR: 66
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7449 times:

LOL Maiznblu_757! They are shutting it down to annoy A.nutters of course.


"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1894 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7387 times:

Maiznblu: Boeing wants to sell 7E7s. Production, employment, etc.


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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7371 times:

No orders left for the 757 either. Time for something new.

There just isn't any mileage left in the 757 range, so the 7E7 will cover a fair chunk of what the 757 offers and more. The 739 takes care of the single-aisle requirements that still exist.

A hard act to follow but the 7E7 looks like it'll fill the boots of its predecessor admirably.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7364 times:

So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.

User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7353 times:

Boeing are doing.

It's called the 7E7.

There isn't any market left for a medium range narrowbody with the 757's profile, which is why nobody has bought one for ages now


User currently offlineNetdhaka From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7338 times:

Sounds like boeing is not doing very well. They somehow need to figure out a way to reverse this trend. I wonder if the US gov. policies (foreign) are anyway contributing to boeings' low sales. I know that most of the people will say that these are separate issues, but couldn't help wonder. I say this because most of the customers with huge orders are Muslim majority countries and there is no need to speculate how the Muslim's feel about US gov. foreign policies.

No hard feeling for anyone, above was just an observation!!


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7318 times:

I know. I know. I know...

Its just that I am sad to see the line shutting down, thats all.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 984 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7323 times:

So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.

Or... build a whole new aircraft that covers way more market than the 757 did. Enter 7E7-3

There isn't any market left for a medium range narrowbody with the 757's profile, which is why nobody has bought one for ages now

It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4753 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7298 times:

I think it's ridiculous to say Boeing isn't doing well because they're not selling as many planes as Airbus this year...

This post is just ANOTHER STUPID THREAD aimed at starting yet another stupid A vs. B war.

Get over it people.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5204 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7278 times:


I can't help it , but I'm really happy for the European aircraft industry! After so many years of economic trouble we finally get jobs again! That said, I hope Boeing survives because we need cometition.

KL911


User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1597 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7141 times:

It's great to see a once underdog become the reign supreme.... but Airbus can't get too comfy... Boeing is a force to be reckoned with.. they have the experience, determination and the money to come back with full vengeance.

This is why I have always said the outspoken Leahey is doing a disservice to Airbus by coming out with disparaging remarks...

Boeing is a sleeping giant and about time that it's waking up... if the 7E7 meets the performance expectations that boeing is currently making, such as performance/range, efficiency, cabin improvement, and price - it's going to hit Airbus real hard. It's just a matter of time where the technology in the 7E7 is incorporated in the 737, 747 and 777...

PS... these orders that are announced this week don't mean much, they are all MOU's (financing and contracts need to be drawn up) and they don't reflect the other 51 weeks in the year...



Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6989 times:

Makes it easier for all...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040721/ts_afp/britain_turkey_air

I really don't see Muslim resentment over U.S. policies much affecting airliner sales; airlines generally make fleet acquisition decisions for business reasons. You don't hear carriers publicly snubbing Boeing because their respective nations criticize U.S. foreign policy. As for the latest Airbus Air Show order sweep, it's common knowledge that they save a lot of these announcements for the show for the PR value; many of the deals were in the works long before the show. This is a practice Boeing says it won't do anymore, while Airbus has done it for a number of years, now. Boeing will announce orders whenever they happen without waiting for a vaunted media event to do so.







User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12631 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6839 times:
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Come on kids! Both Airbus and Boeing make great planes despite what their respective, more extreme fans may say. I can't see either company achieving the levels of dominance that Boeing once had. Both companies have said that they expect their market share to shift around the 50/50 mark, but may go out as far as 60/40 in individual years either way.

Airbus has a sales lead at the moment, but if all the 7E7 deposits Boeing says they have become firm orders, then they will likely have the lead by the end of the year.

It's not a matter of life or death. Try to enjoy aviation  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6785 times:

Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai

B727fan sounds like a baseball sportscaster to me....

The airline industry isnt a sport, people! Get a grip!



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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6730 times:

It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.

A beautiful plane to fly on, and it'll be flying for decades yet. The 757 is the DC-8 of recent years, built like a tank. Look at frame number 8, still flying in charter config for MYT (and that's punishing!)

I agree with the 753 comment. The charter carriers would have been more interested, but by the time the 753 appeared their orders were made and mostly delivered. Which was a mistake really, as the 757 was designed with a stretch in mind from the start.


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6686 times:

AirframeAS LOL  Smile

It wasn't all bad news, the RAF is buying the 4 Boeing C-17s they are leasing and buying one more  Big grin

But The way things are going we will only be having C vs E wars as RJs take over the world.............

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1638 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st

Huh?  Confused



B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
User currently offlineMikester540 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st
Exactly, uh what?

The reason why Airbus is selling more is because Boeing has already built thousands of planes still operating, and they're still running good. I think Boeing and Airbus will always flip-flop on who will be tops forever. And neither wants to knock the other out of the 'race'. Boeing and Airbus will be around for a while!

Mike



We need men who can dream of things that never were. -John F. Kennedy
User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4742 times:

Typo, my bad-
that tag should be: Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st.....

I agree that the two will flip-flop over the next few years, and still think RJ growth will outpace both.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Life is not a Parker Posey Movie


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