Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6387 times:
Blackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1892 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6291 times:
Maiznblu: Boeing wants to sell 7E7s. Production, employment, etc.
Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6275 times:
No orders left for the 757 either. Time for something new.
There just isn't any mileage left in the 757 range, so the 7E7 will cover a fair chunk of what the 757 offers and more. The 739 takes care of the single-aisle requirements that still exist.
A hard act to follow but the 7E7 looks like it'll fill the boots of its predecessor admirably.
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6268 times:
So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.
Netdhaka From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 182 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6242 times:
Sounds like boeing is not doing very well. They somehow need to figure out a way to reverse this trend. I wonder if the US gov. policies (foreign) are anyway contributing to boeings' low sales. I know that most of the people will say that these are separate issues, but couldn't help wonder. I say this because most of the customers with huge orders are Muslim majority countries and there is no need to speculate how the Muslim's feel about US gov. foreign policies.
No hard feeling for anyone, above was just an observation!!
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 52 Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6222 times:
I know. I know. I know...
Its just that I am sad to see the line shutting down, thats all.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6227 times:
So, build the 757NG... I dont think it would be a bad idea.
Or... build a whole new aircraft that covers way more market than the 757 did. Enter 7E7-3
There isn't any market left for a medium range narrowbody with the 757's profile, which is why nobody has bought one for ages now
It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.
Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4657 posts, RR: 45 Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6202 times:
I think it's ridiculous to say Boeing isn't doing well because they're not selling as many planes as Airbus this year...
This post is just ANOTHER STUPID THREAD aimed at starting yet another stupid A vs. B war.
Kl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6182 times:
I can't help it , but I'm really happy for the European aircraft industry! After so many years of economic trouble we finally get jobs again! That said, I hope Boeing survives because we need cometition.
KL911
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
BoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1588 posts, RR: 18 Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 6045 times:
It's great to see a once underdog become the reign supreme.... but Airbus can't get too comfy... Boeing is a force to be reckoned with.. they have the experience, determination and the money to come back with full vengeance.
This is why I have always said the outspoken Leahey is doing a disservice to Airbus by coming out with disparaging remarks...
Boeing is a sleeping giant and about time that it's waking up... if the 7E7 meets the performance expectations that boeing is currently making, such as performance/range, efficiency, cabin improvement, and price - it's going to hit Airbus real hard. It's just a matter of time where the technology in the 7E7 is incorporated in the 737, 747 and 777...
PS... these orders that are announced this week don't mean much, they are all MOU's (financing and contracts need to be drawn up) and they don't reflect the other 51 weeks in the year...
AvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2430 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5893 times:
I really don't see Muslim resentment over U.S. policies much affecting airliner sales; airlines generally make fleet acquisition decisions for business reasons. You don't hear carriers publicly snubbing Boeing because their respective nations criticize U.S. foreign policy. As for the latest Airbus Air Show order sweep, it's common knowledge that they save a lot of these announcements for the show for the PR value; many of the deals were in the works long before the show. This is a practice Boeing says it won't do anymore, while Airbus has done it for a number of years, now. Boeing will announce orders whenever they happen without waiting for a vaunted media event to do so.
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11360 posts, RR: 50 Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5743 times:
Come on kids! Both Airbus and Boeing make great planes despite what their respective, more extreme fans may say. I can't see either company achieving the levels of dominance that Boeing once had. Both companies have said that they expect their market share to shift around the 50/50 mark, but may go out as far as 60/40 in individual years either way.
Airbus has a sales lead at the moment, but if all the 7E7 deposits Boeing says they have become firm orders, then they will likely have the lead by the end of the year.
It's not a matter of life or death. Try to enjoy aviation
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5689 times:
Airbus Lengthens Lead Over Boeing At Farnborugh Ai
B727fan sounds like a baseball sportscaster to me....
The airline industry isnt a sport, people! Get a grip!
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5634 times:
It was really down to the scraps for the 757. Had the 753 entered service much earlier, I bet it would have gained several more customers. Regardless, it had an exellent production run, breaking the 1,000 frame mark.
A beautiful plane to fly on, and it'll be flying for decades yet. The 757 is the DC-8 of recent years, built like a tank. Look at frame number 8, still flying in charter config for MYT (and that's punishing!)
I agree with the 753 comment. The charter carriers would have been more interested, but by the time the 753 appeared their orders were made and mostly delivered. Which was a mistake really, as the 757 was designed with a stretch in mind from the start.
Mikester540 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3710 times:
Landing is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man, Landing is the 1st
Exactly, uh what?
The reason why Airbus is selling more is because Boeing has already built thousands of planes still operating, and they're still running good. I think Boeing and Airbus will always flip-flop on who will be tops forever. And neither wants to knock the other out of the 'race'. Boeing and Airbus will be around for a while!
Mike
We need men who can dream of things that never were. -John F. Kennedy