Lrgt From United States, joined Jul 2004, 659 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7555 times:
Is Ghana Airways behind every other airline in everything?? Beyond their logo, colour scheme and DC-10s (newly acquired from the desert...their idea of a NEW airplane), they are plegued with delays and do not have any real business plan. They don't have an online booking engine and last year they had to cancel half their international flightst for several weeks because they did not have an airplane.
I think they need newer 80's (smaller) aircraft like 757/767 and need to model say closer to SAA (an aliance with CO wouldn't hurt)? If they can't be trusted to operate them, how about Air Atlanta Icelandic? A 757 has the range to LHR from ACC: why not put it on a daily service to replace their current 3x/week DC-10 flight. For the trans-atlantic flights, forget JFK, do a DAILY EWR/ACC/BOM with a 767-300. While they could not fill just a EWR/ACC, the India market is RED HOT from EWR and they could fill EVERY ONE of the seats that is not occupied by someone going to Ghana with travelers from EWR to BOM (Bombay, India). AM I RIGHT OR CRAZY???
MoneyShot From United States, joined Jun 2004, 93 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7413 times:
I can remember where I first heard it but I just did a search and I found this....
The financial predicament that has been threatening the survival of Ghana Airways may soon be over, as the airline is readying itself to take delivery of two new aircraft for the operations. By the middle of May this year, Ghana Airways expects to have taken delivery of the first of these – a Boeing 767 aircraft that will be used on its medium haul routes.
According to the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the national airline, MR. E.R.K. Dwemoh, the two aircraft will be acquired on a ‘wet lease basis. They will replace the DC-10 and DC-9
aircraft that the airline is currently operating.
I just don't know if it will ever happen cause as the article says they were to be delivered by May this year. Not sure. Sorry for the shaky info.
I got it from this link...
Lrgt From United States, joined Jul 2004, 659 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7371 times:
I don't think it happened! I know that they wanted 767s when they ended up buying the DC-10s...I think you need money to do that and they don't have any and/or don't want to spend it!
EurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1268 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7333 times:
Unfortunately, the West African notion of revitalising an airline revolves only (and only) on leasing or purchasing aircraft which are not 'geriatric' as Nigeria' ex-Aviation Minister put it. This, is thought, to be the magical recipe for survival and growth for an airline.
The process of turning an airline runs much deeper than aircraft acquisitions. Many things must be worked on such as reservation capabilities, networking, customer service, branding, training and maintenance quality. Ghana's livery, for one, has not changed since decades ago.
Ghana Airways and recently Nigeria Airw(aste), may she rest in peace, are masters of ignoring all of the listed above and focusing on 'getting the best aircrafts from overseas'. It won't work and it is only a matter of time before GH is burried once and forever, making place for more efficient, modern and progressive carriers as Kenya Airways, Ethiopian and SAA.
Lrgt From United States, joined Jul 2004, 659 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7324 times:
Well put EurostarVA
However, a wet-lease would be a good road for them to take (rates are NOT BAD ...look at Excel, VS, Air India and other successful clients of Air Atlanta. BUT they need to REALLY overhaul their entire operation and sub-contract a lot out to reputable providers (from customer service to their reservations system to EVERYTHING). At this point I don't even think a livery change is enough; if they really put a lot of effort into change (which they may be doing) they should look into a new name like Accra Airways or something.
WGW2707 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 52 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7203 times:
Ghana Airways is interesting in that they are one of the few African airlines that has provided service to the US...are they still flying those routes?
I would agree that Ghana Airways badly needs an overhaul. The name itself though is fine, I would disagree with EuroStarVA on that point. Ghana Airways sounds lush and exotic and could be developed into a fantastic branding.
The problem with most of the African airlines is they are run by bureaucrats who have no clue in how to run an airline and no interest in learning how. Thus, the majority of African airlines, with the exception of the few properly managed ones, are headed for failure, a condition that seems tragically to characterize the continent in general these days.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 10367 posts, RR: 67 Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7061 times:
If you paint the rudders, you´ve got to remove it (like all other flight control surfaces) and balance it on a bench to keep the center of gravity forward to prevent flutter. This is done with balance weights in the leading edge. I assume the other control surfaces (ailerons, elevator) have been painted and balanced when the pklane was still operating for it´s previous owner. They just painted the vertical stabilizer and left the rudders because of the expenses of removing, balancing, reinstalling and rigging it.
Soups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3344 posts, RR: 18 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6970 times:
im a regular flier with GH i must admit their DC10 are old but comfy..
lots of rumours about GH,,,
BMI going to take over then nationwide going t take over then KLM going to operate their west african routes... then they aquires a 767 and 737 but havent seen them in accra yet.. and some timetable saying a330 to LHR...
GH has a hug potential and can create acc as a big hub trasferng people from middle east/india to south america, europe/usa to south africa and from all over the world to other west african destination especially lagos!
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6962 times:
Hi!
That was a nice report about the latest GHANA A/W DC-10 at Mojave. I was there last September on the way to Edwards AFB and I remember seeing at least 3 Hawaiian DC-10's parked. Can anyone confirm me that this one was the one that carried the Oakland Raiders for the final Superbowl in 2003? I was the day at Pismo Beach looking to the sky when I saw the unique airplane flying south to San Diego!
regards
EI2KSEA From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 437 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6884 times:
Its definitely true what WGW2707 says, most Afircan airlines of this vintage are ridiculously undercapitalised and lacking in the skills of airline management. If we look back at the 70s/80s it seemed much more popular to have foreign airlines involved in management consultancy type work helping these companies gain the expertese they needed, I believe Aer Lingus provided this for Zambia Airways as did Alitalia with Ethiopian. Whilst obviously Zambia Airways has gone the way Ghana may go in a gradually shrink and die progression, surely government can see that a more strategic intent on aviation ventures can be good for the country as a whole - Accra does indeed have much potential as a midpoint south-north hub and east-west especially with the existing JFK route, however losing the DC-9s on short-haul and perpetuating the problems with a non existant business plan wont get them anywhere.
CKT523 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6772 times:
Personally, I think after looking at that website (mojave) those who are slating Ghana Airways should stop, right now. they are making a real effort to modernise and progress, with an a/c type that has served them well and is readily available on the used market. The cabin of that DC-10 looks spotless, and very comfortable. I haven't flown GH before, but would have no hesitation in doing so, especially if they are going to keep the DC-10 flying, good work GH and I for one hope you go from strength to strength. The DC-10 may not be as modern as the 767 or A330, but with a lack of funds, the DC-10 can do the job just as well, for a fraction of the cost of purchasing new build a/c.Whats the big thing on here of people wanting new aeroplanes plying the skies all the time? Give me a DC-10 over a boring old 767 any day!
Even if the DC-10 gets to be a maintainance nightmare, there are PLENTY of used MD-11's out there to be considered.
Lrgt From United States, joined Jul 2004, 659 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6745 times:
Here's a weblog and pics of their DC-10 getting readied from Mojave:
http://www.mojavebooks.com/mhv/031030-1.html
Oh boy...the pilots never saw a supermarket...they didn't want to paint the plane except for the tail and leave the old Hawaii c/s...who gave them a 129 to operate their own flights into the USA???
The A330's were operated by SkyService of Canada but stopped when they picked up these old 10's. The A330 was too big and in a Singapore Airlines stlye 3-class configuration (much too rich for their market). If anyone knows anything about SkyService they are expensive for ACMI and have a high cost structure. Ghana would have been much better off with 757/767 from AirAtlanta (they would have cost less per seat instead of more with the 330).
Fokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6741 times:
Well...... I read in a magazine that Ghana Airways was making an alliance with BMI and they would receive newer Airbus 330 and to replace the DC-9, new Airbus 320, but this alliance never was made.
Lrgt From United States, joined Jul 2004, 659 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6713 times:
How big for Ethiopian (ET)? It may just mean a few extra flights or something. If they mean LHR-ACC direct or USA-ACC, that would spell trouble for GH.
Fokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6697 times:
Ethiopian is not that big, but it can compete(or destroy them) to Ghana Airways, they have better timetables, better and newer fleet, better hub, better in-flight service, and better maintenance for the aircraft.
Soups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3344 posts, RR: 18 Reply 25, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6553 times:
GH never serves india it did serve BEY-DXB one of their planes which was leased to MEA was blown up by israeli at beirut international airport.
currently Ghana airways flies to rome, hamburg, dusseldorf, JFK, bwi, london (for long haul)
it use to serve DXB, HARARE, JNB AND beirut but stopped dur to lack of a/c.
GH needs new aircraft to survive.
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
26 EI2KSEA: Thats an impressive list of long-hauls. If Ethiopean is setting up in Accra then it must be a lucrative market...hopefully Ghana can be wound into sha
27 ETStar: ET's planned hub is in collaboration with Ghana Airways, so no threat for GH there.
28 Lrgt: They have a lot of majors flying from Europe: Alitalia, KLM, BA, Lufthansa, Swiss, Air France, and maybe Iberian??? (no VS though). From Africa they h
29 Fokker50: For me, GH is a second hand airline because this airline had been passing by different owners, they have all aircraft by second or third hand, ongoing
30 Lrgt: GH does not need Bkcy because none of their creditors expect them to pay. That is why everyone demands cash up front from them. I don't think Africa e
32 Russophile: Unfortunately we can't contact him, but the Marketing Manager of Ghana Airways is a member of the forums. He made a post about 4 years ago. I was in c
33 Soups: airlines athat currently serves accra here it goes... KLM serve ACC with a MD 11 daily flights recently upgraded from a 767 BA serve ACC with a b767 d
34 Russophile: Aeroflot is also a visitor here via TIP or MLA and carry PAX seeking sun. sometimes the a/c wait a week on the tarmac for its PAX. They haven't flown
35 Soups: AIR Ghana already exisit it operates a 707F. apologies to russiophile, source was provided by a friend who works at ACC
36 Soups: forgot to add! GH also serve BKO and OUA 3 weekly dc9 service
37 Lrgt: Unfortunately we can't contact him, but the Marketing Manager of Ghana Airways is a member of the forums. He made a post about 4 years ago. I was in c
38 Lrgt: Now that we are done roasting GH and also have a good idea of all of their competitors and their financial situation, what should they do??? Do you ag
39 Super Em: A friend once told me fly Ghana Airways if you want to lose your job. Reason you ask? The flights are always overbooked. Even if you purchased a round
40 TransPac: Picking on underfunded/mismangaged African carriers is like picking on retarded kids. It's just not right........
41 Lrgt: Picking on underfunded/mismangaged African carriers is like picking on retarded kids. It's just not right........ I intended for this discussion to be
42 Lrgt: No one has suggestions for improvement...that is sad.
43 Soups: 757 to usa? i think a bigger A/C is needed. an a340 daily into LHR will be [perfect. every flight into europe has at least 10 PAX transfering to londo
44 Lrgt: Well for a low risk solution...at least they KNOW they could fill it and thus KNOW they can make money rather than getting greedy.
45 UAL747DEN: GH needs to employee some of the trash that calls Accra home. They scam enough money from the US each year to buy new 777's. I work for a communicatio
46 Lrgt: UAL747DEN: You have me very interested! ...do you have any articles, weblinks, etc.??? I would love to read about this. What happened to your company?
47 Miamix707: AIR Ghana already exisit it operates a 707F that's interesting, is that aircraft currently flying? any pics of that one on here?
48 AirGabon: Are you sure that AF will fly to ACC via LFW (maybe 3x weekly with A343)? They're flying 7x weekly to ABJ with a B772. ACC is just 1 hour of flight fr
49 Soups: AirGabon, AF route ACC-CDG is mainly for transit passengers to UK/GERMANY/USA/CANADA peopl will prefer to make 1 stop rather than 2 and abidjan has a
50 Lrgt: They ask you to send money to them in order to open an account so that they can put their $1,000,000 into it that they need you to hide for them. If s
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