Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Do Airports "Close"  
User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19671 times:

I know on the occasional weather delay that yes an airport shuts down and flights are cancelled, yet do airports truly close?

I know at smaller airports such as BUF most flights are in and done by 12:30 AM, with a four hour gap before the morning rush will start. During that time frame will the airport be closed? Or will the security continue to monitor anybody who may be stranded in the airport for whatever reason? Just a question that always perplexed me.


The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTasha From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 19596 times:

I can tell you from personal experiance that GPT does close between midnight and 445am. Sometimes I'm booked on the 545am ASA flight to ATL and I can't even get in the door to right at 445am, and then the TSA screeners don't start work till 5am. I have never seen anyone stranded at GPT, but I'm sure just because I haven't seen it, it does happen.

Tasha  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAerosvit From Ukraine, joined Feb 2004, 112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19568 times:

Doesn't Heathrow kinda close at a certain time so the Queen can sleep....I heard that somewhere not sure if that's true...


Clava Ykraini
User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19551 times:

LGB and SNA come to mind....


Wally Bird Ruled the Skys!
User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 19523 times:

Just because an airport has a curfew doesn't mean it closes. In most cases they are transportation hubs and include bus stations, train stations, subway stations, etc. Although LGB and SNA may close I think the questioner is asking more along the lines of "do they lock their doors." The answer is some do and some don't. GPT is an example of one that does which probably means that TSA leaves checkpoint for roughly 4 hours a day and to prevent any type of security breaches the local LEO's sweep the terminals and concourses and lock the airport. Then you have cities like ATL that allow passengers to sleep in the concourses and they allow this because in most cases they have flights arriving and departing at all hours.


It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19501 times:

Yes, many airports close down completely during the night.
Especially small ones where there simply aren't any night flights it doesn't make economic sense to keep people working 24/7 to handle aircraft and passengers that aren't there anyway.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 19494 times:

A lot of airports having curfew close. Some departure halls might be open for public but the gate area is normally closed. I know this happens in ZRH, LHR (some terminals), HNL and other airports. There are also a lot of 24hrs airports (KUL, CMB, BKK, DXB etc)


Smooth as silk - Royal Orchid Service /// Suid-Afrikaanse Lugdiens - Springbok
User currently offlineKLbambie From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 98 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 19463 times:

ABZ definitely closes. I shuts at the moment around 2230 although the Airlines can use slots allocated by ATC to keep the field open an extra 30 mins -1hr. Some bureaucratic nonsense that doesn't allow Aircraft over the city at night.
Many a time we have had to divert to EDI or GLA because ABZ was closed. Then take a 3hr bus ride with some unhappy passengers.


User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 19437 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

As Jwenting said, many small airports close when there's no traffic. There's even a specific airport suffix, H24, to indicate whether the airport is operational 24 hours a day or not. International airports, or any airport that has a high probability of international traffic, is H24, while the smaller regional can be closed, depending on the season. At least here in Croatia, the general rule of thumb is that any airport having an ILS is H24, since it means a lot of traffic, especially now during tourist season.


No plane, no gain.
User currently offlineCarledwards From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 19389 times:

Well the last time i checked Heathrow closes between about 23:30 and 04:30 every night. During this time it is extremely rare for a flight to land or depart, unless it is a late arrival, or some kind of re-positioning flight. As for the Queen  Smile/happy/getting dizzy im not sure it has anything to do with her, but more like the people who live in Hounslow and the neighbouring villages for noise and environmental purposes. The other London airports open virtually all night, with the occasional Charter.


Directoria
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7110 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19371 times:

Auckland Airport doesn't close, but ir has not flights for about 3 or 4 hours during the night so it effectively has nothing going on. It has clsoed twice in the last few weeks due to fog and bad weather.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12266 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 19354 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Wellington Airport Terminal closes its doors from 2am-4am. If any flights have to land or depart during the 2 hours the airport is closed then the planes use the Royal New Zealand Air Force Terminal. Planes are only allowed to land if its an emergency landing, late arrival, or if the Prime Minister or any other VIPs have to land or depart due to an emergency.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 19279 times:

>>>It has clsoed twice in the last few weeks due to fog and bad weather.

>>>I know on the occasional weather delay that yes an airport shuts down and flights are cancelled, yet do airports truly close?

I don't want to appear to be "hair-splitting" but airports don't actually "close" per se when it comes to most weather situations....

If fog rolls in and drops the visibility below authorized landing minimums, it's true that the aircraft then can't land, but the airport is still "open" (i.e. -NOT- closed by issuance of a NOTAM) --it's just below minimums. If the fog abates a tad so the RVR or visibility comes up to minimums (and fog often fluctuates), aircraft will start approaches again. Sometimes, the fog comes in and stays. In any event, some crews/airline personnel might indeed tell passengers that "XYZ is closed" but that's just simplier, shorter, and less confusing than saying "XYZ is below landing minimums".

The same situation occurs with thunderstorms. When they move in, operations are suspended, flights circle in holding patterns (with some perhaps diverting), but eventually the weather moves elsewhere and approaches resume. The airport has never been "closed" (a NOTAM saying XYZ airport closed), it's just been temporarily unusable due to the storms (which may/may not have had the airport technically below landing minimums).

I won't re-hash all the various examples that folks have mentioned of how and why airports are closed but from an operational perspective, -some- weather can indeed close an airport. If a major snowstorm dumps more snow than an airport keep up with (plowing, etc.), the entity operating the airport will quite likely issue a NOTAM stating that "XYZ ARPT CLSD UFN".

The main difference is this: If it's a transient weather event, the airport is open but just temporarily below landing minimums. If it's a larger scale weather event with associated side effects (snow accumulations, standing water, or storm debris) it may well be that the airport is truly "closed" for awhile. If a NOTAM hasn't been issed saying the airport is "closed", the airport is thus "open."


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 19243 times:

Since my flight out of MAN (Two weeks ago yesterday) was due out at 04:30 we checked in at 02:10. I can safley say that there are no flights in or out between 1am and 3am. It is a noise abatment thing and kinda hampers our cargo expansion possibilities but it makes for great photo opportunities.

BTW when I was leaving there was a T-Storm over Manchester (and the airport) and it was a very big storm which also meant no flights would have come/gone regardless of the time. I ran onto the car park roof to get an Anet first (I thought I saw the Monarch A330 in new colours - a hybrid) but it was the water on the windows (and my tyred eyes) decieving me so I got soaked for nothing.

Nice to see every space at the airport occupied though  Big grin

Phil
FlyingColours



Lifes a train racing towards you, now you can either run away or grab a chair & a beer and watch it come - Phil
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3531 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 19085 times:

Operationally, airports are open all the time. Whether it's a small general aviation airport in the middle of nowhere or a bustling hub-airport with cargo and passenger ops in the middle of the night, the runways are always open as long as it is safe for airplanes to land on them.


Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineWhaley From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18934 times:

I was early for a flight from Eindhoven (EIN) once, and there was literally nobody there, until the newspaper boy arrived. The terminal building was closed, and there's nothing outside, only a little overhang to save yourself from the rain. I doubt that the tower was occupied, either. Ofcourse any plane in real trouble could still land completely manually, always better than a strip of grass I guess  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18908 times:

The famous Sleeping in Airports site has some useful information:
http://www.sleepinginairports.net/



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18898 times:

Since my flight out of MAN (Two weeks ago yesterday) was due out at 04:30 we checked in at 02:10. I can safley say that there are no flights in or out between 1am and 3am. It is a noise abatment thing and kinda hampers our cargo expansion possibilities but it makes for great photo opportunities.


MAN isn't restricted like that. FedEx as going to set up a hub here but the only problem was available space.

There are restrictions however, such as 24L/06R not being available unless for emergencies/maintenance and arriving aircraft are encouraged not to use reverse thrust. The lack of movements between 1am and 3am is more to do with the waves in which charters tend to depart as there are practically no scheduled ops at that time except for cargo.


User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18887 times:

I know that SCE closes...i got there at 4:30 for a 6am flight in May and everyone was standing outside..i thought something was wrong but the airport did not open until 4:45am. I am not surprised that SCE closes considering there is not much there  Big thumbs up


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18849 times:

Airports in the Caribbean pretty much roll up the sidewalks after 7:00pm, SJU I think closes up at 7:30pm. A few years ago, I took one of the last flights out of SJU and it was about 7:30pm and everything was shutting down. Also, Bermuda/ BDA(Kindley) comes to mind, but I think they close at sunset.  Big grin


Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 18823 times:

BOG and MZL are closed frequently, mostly weather, cuz here in Colombia, it gets NASTY:

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18789 times:

Yes every airport in the USA closed from 9-11-01 through 9-13-01

User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18757 times:

Since my flight out of MAN (Two weeks ago yesterday) was due out at 04:30 we checked in at 02:10. I can safley say that there are no flights in or out between 1am and 3am. It is a noise abatment thing and kinda hampers our cargo expansion possibilities but it makes for great photo opportunities.

Last time I was in MAN at crazy AM (something like 0200) there was a flight land, a bmibaby one (from ALC I think), not sure if thats what time it was ment to land or if it was delayed, but it did. Not much to do in MAN at that time really!


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 18750 times:

West coast airports (LAX, SEA, Anchorage) seem to be open very late for late departures at 2 or 3am, and also for fuel stops/adding passengers for continuation of flights from eastern cities on the way to Asia/Pacific cities.

Furthermore, if you want to see 24 hour activity, visit Indian airports.
Because India is roughly 12 hours ahead of U.S. time zones, international flights arrive and depart at all hours of the night.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9647 posts, RR: 68
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 18708 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

TUS used to close down, after midnight, not sure if it still does

25 Post contains images OPNLguy : >>>Yes every airport in the USA closed from 9-11-01 through 9-13-01 Not quite. AA got special permission to run aircraft from DFW to the NYC and DC ar
26 ScottysAir : OPNLguy, Is that got special permission from AA and will use fly to New York? How you even know about with those information? Regards
27 Post contains images OPNLguy : >>>How you even know about with those information? You'll have to trust me on this Scott.... To clarify, the DFW-DC and DFW-NYC flights had nothing bu
28 Acho : Here in QRO (Queretaro), Mexico I have expirenced controllers charging people for "overtime" when flights operate past a certain schedule. I had to go
29 Jeffrey1970 : I believe Reagan- National, DCA, has a curfew, but I do not know if they actually lock the doors.
30 767er : Sydney Airport closes from around 11.30 pm until 4.30pm. Curfew restrctions are extremely tight and the airlines are charged approx $100,000 if they l
31 HlywdCatft : Well according to Michael Moore, there were a few planes operating carrying Saudis and the Bin Ladin family out of the USA. If there was such thing, d
32 Nudelhirsch : ORD does not really close, but they have different rules at night, with probably reduced security. Only people with valid ticket for a flight within t
33 FlyingColours : Okie Dokie I stand corrected - I was just quoting what some Servicair person told me. Granted MAN is very dull in the early hours, Everything is close
34 BMAbound : ARN doesn't close either. Among others, West Air Sweden flies mail in ATP's and HS-748's during the darkest hours. On rare occasions, bizjets have roa
35 4xRuv : TLV is closed every year, for 30 hours, and that includes the entire airspace of Israel. That's due to "Yom Kipur" Holiday...
36 22right : I dont know if major commercial airports ever officially "close". FWIW, in case of BOM (Mumbai), I think it wouldnt be too facetious to say that airpo
37 PROSA : Yes every airport in the USA closed from 9-11-01 through 9-13-01 Not quite. AA got special permission to run aircraft from DFW to the NYC and DC areas
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Do Seaplane Landing "strips" Have Designators/code posted Sun Nov 19 2006 18:50:35 by HansieAMS
Why Do All Canadian Airport Codes Start With "y"? posted Sun Jul 2 2006 17:05:56 by NZ8800
FAA: Gary, Peotone Airports At "different" Stages posted Thu Feb 9 2006 20:01:49 by KarlB737
What Is The "DO NOT Touch?" Jetway Wheel? posted Thu Jan 12 2006 22:05:45 by KELPkid
US Airports With "difficult" TSA Procedures posted Thu Jun 23 2005 08:58:03 by Js
Airports With "extreme" Conditions? posted Tue Jan 18 2005 23:34:45 by Airkas1
Book Rec. "Airports: A Century..." posted Thu Oct 14 2004 02:39:13 by Redngold
How Do You Pronounce "bmi" posted Sun Jul 11 2004 06:51:13 by FlyTPA
"Is That Important?" I Do Not Know!" posted Wed Mar 31 2004 11:04:05 by Bofredrik
Canadian Airports - Why The "Y" posted Mon Feb 16 2004 04:19:40 by Flyhigh69
Do Pilots Fly "better" Into Their Home Airport? posted Mon Apr 16 2007 23:10:00 by LH526
Do Seaplane Landing "strips" Have Designators/code posted Sun Nov 19 2006 18:50:35 by HansieAMS
Why Do All Canadian Airport Codes Start With "y"? posted Sun Jul 2 2006 17:05:56 by NZ8800
FAA: Gary, Peotone Airports At "different" Stages posted Thu Feb 9 2006 20:01:49 by KarlB737
What Is The "DO NOT Touch?" Jetway Wheel? posted Thu Jan 12 2006 22:05:45 by KELPkid
US Airports With "difficult" TSA Procedures posted Thu Jun 23 2005 08:58:03 by Js
Airports With "extreme" Conditions? posted Tue Jan 18 2005 23:34:45 by Airkas1
Book Rec. "Airports: A Century..." posted Thu Oct 14 2004 02:39:13 by Redngold