Alitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4771 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6007 times:
Current fleet is 10 777-243ER's on the roster (6 owned, 4 leased). There's talk of converting some additional options to firm order, potentially including 777-343ER's. Their flights to JFK and NRT are constantly 100% full...
Currently 777's fly from MXP/FCO to the following destinations:
JFK/EWR/KIX/NRT/EZE/GRU and MIA (alternating with 763's).
5 MD11 Combi's are scheduled to be back on the roster in March '05 and will fly to ORD, DEL, and MIA (alternating with 777's).
Their 763 fleet is about to undergo refurbishment - with interiors similar to 777's being installed and IFE in every seat. Additionally, rumour has it they've just ordered (through ILFC) 4 additional 763ER's.
Next year, in addition to LAX, they're starting service to Shanghai.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2696 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5757 times:
They're expanding into places that will guarantee them profits, that will enable them to pay back their loan, as they'll be making money. If they use (part of) the money from the loan to lease/ buy B777-300ERs, they can most definitely fill the seats to at least a couple of destinations, say JFK, NRT, and MIA (in the winter). And more seats= more profit= more $ for Alitalia. I wish them the best of luck with their expansion, with hopes that they keep adding new aircraft and still make loads of cash !
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5683 times:
I dont know if AZ would start services to PHL because they already have a strong relation with DL they would probaly just code share flights there then doing a direct service. I find it funny that AZ doesnt opperate ATL.
Also does anyone no if AZs MD-11s will be installed with this new interior along with the 767?? I personally think that AZ should purchase some 764s and maybe one or two 773Ers
IDISA From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5564 times:
I am very very happy to read this one, I remember when AZ flew to LAX using B747 and this was not long ago.... I always wondered the reason why this service was cancelled, perhaps because of DL alliance. I knew load factor was very good and also cargo wasn't bad, in fact sometimes AZ used MD-11 Combi for this route and actually there is a code-sharing flight operated by Cargolux via LUX, so I believe that this is the logical conclusion.
Azmd80 From Italy, joined Nov 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4072 times:
I think that one of the condition posed by EU for the aproval of the state loan is not to expand fleet (using state money to rise fleet is against free market in EU). For tht reason I think that further AC order (like 777 300 er or 764) to expand long haul fleet are not possible in the future.
Most probably AZ MD11 will be back in operational fleet to fill some route without new AC.
It cold be very expansive: I''ve red that there aren't enough crew that have manteined the authorization to fly on these aircraft. Also the AC need some check to obtain the operational status.
: Alitalia MD11...your dream fleet for AZ would be a NIGHTMARE to the airline's bottom line. So many different acft types with diff ratings means diff c
: MXP-LAX-MXP should do well as both are fashion capitals and the route should attract a lot of high yield pax flying J class on AZs B 777s which are pr
: In the 80's, I flew LAX-Milan (don't know if it was malpensa or linate) on AZ 747-200 and I remember going upstairs with the F/A to visit the cockpit