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AA Might Go Non-stop To Montevideo  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

Rumours have heightened this week that American Airlines will introduce non-stop service between Miami and Montevideo this winter. American Airlines has been flying to the Uruguayan capital for more than a decade now, originally via Sao Paulo and currently via Buenos Aires. Service would operate with a 767-300ER. It is unknown if it will replace the current MIA-EZE-MVD service, or compliment. If it replaces, MIA-MVD will operate daily. If it doesn't, the service will likely operate 3-5x a week.

Eventually, American Airlines also plans to end their tag-on flights from Sao Paulo to Belo Horizonte and Asuncion, and serve both non-stop from Miami. Though Montevideo looks to be the first one to get a non-stop.

I'll see what else I can find out. It should definitley be kept in mind that rumours that MIA-MVD would go non-stop have been around for a long time, although recently it has been sounding like it is closer to reality.

Montevideo is a huge money maker for American Airlines, who sometimes serves the city with 772s. Yields are great, and cargo demand is excellent too. It is also a strong performing station for United Airlines, the other US airline that flies to MVD (daily IAD-EZE-MVD).


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User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Great news! I know LAPA use to fly MIA-ASU with their 320s, but don't know if it was non-stop? Could AA put their 757s on MIA-ASU? Or would this route demand a 763?


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1597 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

This is great news!

Uruguay is on my list of places to visit... this just makes it easier... Excellent!



Airbus or Boeing - it's all good to me!
User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4294 times:

Whoops, It's not LAPA, I think it was LAPSA? And it had a JJ livery, which leads me to believe that it was a extension of them.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Great news! I know LAPA use to fly MIA-ASU with their 320s, but don't know if it was non-stop?

No, I'm pretty sure it was not.

Could AA put their 757s on MIA-ASU? Or would this route demand a 763?

AA could fly a 757 on MIA-ASU, but the route does demand a 763. AA actually announced daily MIA-ASU service in early 1999, but it was canceled (along with four other new AA long-haul routes, ORD-AMS/SVO and AA), Japan">NRT-JFK/BOS, that were to be launched for the summer 1999 timetable) before it started due to a soft US economy.



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

MAH4546,

Thanks for the update about more new service to MVD and will begin operate for daily flight on their 767-300ER. I am still hope they are doing so well.

Regards


User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

MAH4546, I am pretty sure there was a airline with the name of LAPSA, that flew out of Miami to Asuncion. And I know it was a A320, whether it was non-stop or not, I don't know. I recall it flying out around the mid 90s.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

MAH4546, I am pretty sure there was a airline with the name of LAPSA, that flew out of Miami to Asuncion. And I know it was a A320, whether it was non-stop or not, I don't know. I recall it flying out around the mid 90s.


That is correct. Lapsa did fly to Miami in the late 1990s with A320s, there are some pictures in the database. It was not non-stop from Asuncion, though. I believe the flight stopped in Northeastern Brazil (Manaus?).



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User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Great news... or not!

I live in NYC and now worry AA might cancel their EZE-MVD hop over the River Plate! I MUCH prefer to fly non-stop JFK-EZE and then simply switch to the EZE-MVD and do NOT wanna connect at MIA at night!

I have flown AA's JFK-EZE-MVD flight many, many times and actually LIKE the flexibility of stopping over in Buenos Aires for a couple of days either going to/from MVD.

Also, if AA initiates MIA-MVD non-stop, will it shut down one of its TWO daily non-stops from MIA-EZE, or perhaps reduce capacity by switching a flight from a 772ER to a 763ER?


User currently offlineMiaskies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

I doubt it will shut down one of the two the MIA-EZE routes. Although possible, the EZE-MIA routes are very popular. They could simply fly one 772er and one 763ER. Or maybe offer the 2nd flight 3 or 4 x weekly rather than 7 weekly.

Routes to deep South America from MIA are very popular, LAN, AA, AR have plenty of routes going down south.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

Also, if AA initiates MIA-MVD non-stop, will it shut down one of its TWO daily non-stops from MIA-EZE, or perhaps reduce capacity by switching a flight from a 772ER to a 763ER?

No, not at all. Buenos Aires is supposedly the single most profitable AA destination from MIA, and MIA-EZE is one of the strongest performing routes in AA's system. Ideally, AA wants to operate both flights with a 772, like they have in the past (as recently as last winter), but with so many 772s dedicated to Heathrow, Gatwick, and Narita flights, they just don't have the aircraft to dedicate four 772s to the MIA-EZE route right now, especially because they have heavily increased Narita flying recently. American Airlines is planning to apply to operate a third daily MIA-EZE flight, which would operate as a daylight service, 4x a week during off season (Sep/Oct/Nov/Apr/May) and daily during peak season, like the new third daily MIA-GRU operates. They have not submitted a DOT application yet, but the flight is expected to start by June 2005 assuming things go as planned and the market stays strong. Also, by making it a daylight service, they increase aircraft utlization, since a plane operating a redeye to EZE will turn right around to operate the daylight. The daylight service would most likely be a 763, since premium demand is lower.



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User currently offlineMiaskies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Sounds very cool! A good friend of mine just came back from EZE on AA to MIA and told me the flight was packed!! and the service was great.


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User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3738 times:

Is there such a high passenger demand between Uruguay and the US that it would warrant at direct flight to Montevideo?
I would see more logic behind a direct service to EZE and then the hope across the River Plate.
Does Pluna offer direct flights between MIA and MVD?? And does any one what the loads are like?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33284 posts, RR: 71
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Is there such a high passenger demand between Uruguay and the US that it would warrant at direct flight to Montevideo?


AA clearly thinks so. They eventually do not want to operate tag-on flights in Latin America. The exception is their MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA flight, because a plane cannot take off from LPB's runway and make it to MIA non-stop.

Does Pluna offer direct flights between MIA and MVD?? And does any one what the loads are like?


No, they do not. They have talked about adding MIA in the future, but their long-haul fleet is one 767 that flies one route: MVD-GIG-MAD. AA is the only carrier in the MIA-MVD market with their daily service via EZE.



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

They have to do this as a response to losing to United in the Amazing Race.

 Laugh out loud

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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

You mean UA loss....all UA intl service from MIA to South American is pretty much gone!

ha ha ha... Wink/being sarcastic

ciao.



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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 36
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

PU doesn't serve MIA, and I don't think they ever did. Although during the '90s they operated 2 long-range aircraft (B707-387B CX-BNU and DC-10-30 PP-VMW on lease from RG), so that would lead me to question if at the time they operated more than just MAD?
Currently, the only transcontinental PU operate is MAD via GIG, using RG's 767-300ER PP-VOL (the ex-retrojet) while their own 767, CX-PUB, undergoes some heavy maintenance at RG's facilities.
AA should keep up their EZE-MVD service because if not, those passengers will flock to AR, PU, WK (American Falcon) and 2D (Aerovip). It's a very profitable sector.

XV




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User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

Hey LVZXV,

Here's the ideal situation: AA starts its MIA-MVD non-stop just as planned. HOWEVER, it also maintains its EZE-MVD service for passengers from JFK, ORD, and DFW that DO NOT wanna connect in MIA (such as MYSELF!!).

I mean, at least this way, AA could utilize its one of its JFK, ORD and DFW aircraft during the day rather than letting it sit at EZE all day long.

Believe me, passengers from these cities value the EZE-MVD greatly as a good portion of them (such as MYSELF!!) almost always stop in Bs.As. either on their way to MVD or on their way back to the US. It would be a shame if AA were to lose some River Plate shuttle traffic to PU or AR (or UA for that matter!!).

PU has never flown to the US (as far as I know), but their arrangement with RG to MAD, via GIG works great for both parties.

Nonetheless, AA's announcement is is great news for Uruguay. It will now have, for the first time ever, non-stop service to the US! This, coupled with IB's announcement it will inaugurate non-stop service to MAD, marks a real improvement in air transport choices for travelers!


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