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What Happened To AA MD11?  
User currently offlineFokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10509 times:

Hey,
I was wondering if someone knows what happened to AA's MD 11?

cheers,
Fokker50


Bogota, the South american gateway!
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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10359 times:

The AA MD11s were replaced by the 777s - AA was never 100% happy with the MD11. I believe that the entire ex-AA MD11 fleet is now with FedEx hauling cargo.

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10349 times:

I also believe that they were taken out of service after 9/11. I must say, the MD-11s were the oddball in their fleet.

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineCRFLY From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2004, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10340 times:

As long as I remember, AA was not pleased with the MD-11 at all... Not sure the exact technical reasons but they decided later to swith to 777 and sell their MD-11's to FedEx which converted them to Frighters...

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[Edited 2004-07-25 20:15:41]


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User currently offlineFokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10335 times:

But the AA MD 11, were parked in MHV or in other desert before FedEx bought them???

Fokker50



Bogota, the South american gateway!
User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10296 times:

Would anyone happen to know the major routes AA used their MD-11's for?

DFW-AA), Japan">NRT?
DFW-LHR?
etc?



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User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10296 times:

I don't think the MD11's were ever parked at MHV. AA did have quite a few DC-10's out there (one or two of them still remain). But I believe that all of the MD11's went through MIA to be 'decommissioned' by AA, and then sent somewhere else for the Fedex conversion.


No info
User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10268 times:

Trickijedi, for a while before they were taken out of service, AA flew them daily to Frankfurt (I think it was from DFW) - I'm not sure about the other routes, but I'm quite certain that the routes to Japan were also flown with them...


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10267 times:

I believe the MD-11s were ordered exclusively for routes such as DFW-NRT and ORD-NRT. However, I do believe that AA used them on DFW-FRA for a while.

I am personally glad they're gone. I generally dislike tri-jets, and the 777 is definitely a superior aircraft.

[Edited 2004-07-25 20:35:47]


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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10200 times:

I think that the MD-11s were also used on ORD-LHR and ORD-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA, but that was some time ago.

From what I know, the MD-11 did not have the range that McD promised AA. In fact, AA was so unhappy after the first plane was delivered that Bob Crandall told McD that unless McD either came up with a fix or financial incentives, AA would not accept any other aircraft.

I think AA ordered 19, with options for another 19. Like the Fokkers, the options were never converted to firm orders.

The ironic thing is that Boeing made folding wingtips an option on the 777 at AA's request, but then AA ordered the MD-11. I think the reason was that AA could get the MD-11s delivered earlier.


User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10144 times:

I know that AA used the MD-11 into MAN for a short time. Not sure if it was on their services to ORD or the short-lived DFW service or even both.


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User currently offlineMoneyShot From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10049 times:

I also remember American used their MD-11s for the SJC-NRT route as well.

User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10019 times:

They used them on the DFW-SCL or MIA-SCL route, dont remember well, but the last M11 flight for AA was on one of those routes.

User currently offlineTristar100 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9989 times:

I have seen them in the past at London Heathrow, a great sight. I would love to know why American didnt like them, also other airlines for that reason. I know that freight companys like them.

Steve.


User currently offlineAAMD11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1061 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9913 times:

>> What Happened To AA MD11?

I'm right here  Nuts

I loved the MD-11s in AA's colours, they looked stunning, shame they aren't around any more. :-(



User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9644 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9896 times:
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they also flew them from Seattle to Tokyo

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9860 times:

Hey

I personally love the MD-11. Thats why me name is AlitaliaMD11.

I first getting into them when i saw them at JFK. When i was little they would always be there when we flew on AA to SJU even once we flew on one to SJU. I seem to remember them flying to LGW from JFK??? donno. Sure do miss them though but the AA titles where really streched across the deck.



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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9836 times:

Just adding two cents here...what was said above is true. Crandall wasn't at all pleased with the MD-11, simply because they didn't lived up to what McDonnell Douglas promised. American had 19 ships, with options on 31 more. All of them with to Fed Ex for freight hauling. One was written off with Fed Ex when the aircraft flipped upside down on finals...thankfully the crew was alright. Regards.


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User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 489 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9753 times:
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Personally, I loved the MD-11's. I know that this airline had it's proponents as well as opponents, but I believe that the final nail in the MD-11's coffin was the crash of the Swissair MD-11 off the coast of Nova Scotia. Anytime there is a horrific crash, the general flying public steers away from the type of aircraft involved. It doesn't have to make sense because 90% of the flying public are largely ignorant about the safety of a particular aircraft. The MD-11 certainly had its distractors before the Swissair crash, but any positives the aircraft had were taken away after this highly publicized accident.


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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9717 times:

MIA-JFK
MIA-DFW
Were also a few routes



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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9693 times:

AA used it on ORD-MAN. The DFW service was a 767.

Got to agree with the other posters, the AA MD-11 was a stunning looking aircraft. There was someting just "right" with AA's livery on the MD-11.

That and a certain widget livery of course!


User currently offlineCKT523 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9603 times:

I flew a DL MD-11 back in 1999 MAN-ATL and it was hell.I thought the service was shocking and the cabin felt cheap and nasty.All the way, there was a repetetive pulsing drone through the cabin, sounded like when you are on slow decent and the engines are at idle,but from the moment we hit cruise altitude to when we reached the US. Worst flight I have taken.had no sleep and the cabin was just plain bland.Wish we'd taken AA via ORD now!

User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9593 times:

Here are some routes:
DFW-NRT
DFW-KIX
DFW-LGW
DFW-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA
DFW-SCL
DFW-MIA
DFW-ORD



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User currently offlineFokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9552 times:

But, how many md's were in AA fleet
Fokker50



Bogota, the South american gateway!
User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2362 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9534 times:
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Just to add to what some people said above, the AA MD-11s were replaced (from what I have read in several places) because the plane couldn't meet the range McDonnell Douglas promised.

Loved the looks of those AA MD-11s though . . . nice aircraft.


25 Fokker50 : What do you mean in, "because the plane couldn't meet the range McDonnell Douglas promised"? Fokker50
26 Gigneil : MDD promised certain performance parameters in terms of range at certain payloads. The MD-11 never delivered any of them. N
27 Ken777 : Never had a chance to fly the 11s, just the 10s which I loved flying on. I did love the look of both and am somewhat sorry to see so few of them these
28 Post contains links and images AAMD11 : this one goes out to all AA MD-11 lovers View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Durbin amazing
29 Bobs89irocz : AA had up to 21-24 in there fleet at one time. 3 let the fleet to "Africa One" back in 94-95 i believe. The last flights used for the AA MD-11's where
30 Captain Moya : I personally loved the MD-11 in AA colors. The three engines and the winglets added to its sexiness. I flew the MD-11 on three occasions - (1) JFK-SDQ
31 AAnalyst : Last flight of the AA MD-11 was shortly after 9/11, and was SCL-DFW.
32 Hirnie : I can remember a summer some years ago when there were 3 MD11 parked at a time at the terminal in F R A. They came from ORD, DFW, and JFK. Don`t know
33 GKirk : AA used to operate 2 Daily flights MAN-ORD, one was an MD-11 the other a 767-300ER, today only AA54/55 remains, using a 767-300ER.
34 Stirling : I saw one land at Mojave-MHV in the summer of 96. There were no other AA MD-11s there, so I wonder what it was doing in MHV if most of them transited
35 Md11dude : Hope they see some colorful days ahead, regardless of the carrier in which they operate! Nothing pisses me off more than an MD-11 in the desert.
36 ORDAgent : I worked at AA during the time the MD-11 was introduced. It may have been pretty to look at but it was a total lemon of an aircraft. The fist class la
37 FlagshipAZ : American never had more than 19 different MD-11s in the fleet. From N1750 to N1768 is all they ever had. AA at one time, envisioned a fleet of 50 MD-1
38 Captain.md-11 : Those AA Md-11's were my favorite aircraft to see on my trips to various airports. Back in July 96, we booked flights man-ord on AA55/54 the flight wa
39 Air Palingus : AA also used the MD-11 twice daily for their flights between MIA-EZE (Buenos Aires, Argentina) between 1995 and 2001!! The only flights I did for many
40 BoeingPride800 : Trickijedi, some of AA's MD-11's were used on routes from MIA to JFK and JFK to MIA.
41 Fokker50 : Also, the MD's were the replacement of any widebody in their fleet, or this aircraft was with an special objective???? Fokker50
42 AA7771stClass : It was suggested that they change the livery from the current to all blue for the MD11's, that way they could match the rest of AA's ground equipment.
43 N276AASTT : I can tell you from a AA ramp rat point of view, the MD-11 could be a nightmare to work on. Constantly going down due to mechanical problems and the l
44 RareBear : Stirling: If the MD-11 was anywhere close to the Jaguar X-types to work on, I guarantee you it was pure hell. I spent many hours with busted knuckles
45 UA744KSFO : I know that they were also used on the popular JFK-LHR route.
46 TUGMASTER : The routes AA flew out of LHR with the MD-11 were JFK ORD MIA NO OTHERS From a personal view, it was always great to fly on one of these birds.... Esp
47 Bobs89irocz : I stand corrected, i looked it up as well.....19 MD-11's for AA. However they did let 3 go to Africa One on a wet lease or something of some sort. Its
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