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Why Isn't Skyteam Interested In Swiss?  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2188 posts, RR: 13
Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

I have asked this in other posts, but never got an answer: around all the talk of a possible collapse of LX after not having joined Oneworld as well as OS opposing their entry into Star, how come there is no talk about LX joining Skyteam?

Proximity of hubs (CDG-ZRH)? Can't really be an issue, AMS and CDG are just as close, and AMS is reaaaaaaaally big
Compatibility of networks? ZRH could be transformed into a good gateway into Eastern Europe, something like the OS of Skyteam. OK never really lived up to that
Other reasons?

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User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Dunno, but I think SkyTeam is kinda crowded in Europe, think that right now they want partners in S.E. Asia and S.America.


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineFokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

I know that Oneworld Alliance is interseted in Swiss.

Fokker50



Bogota, the South american gateway!
User currently offlineFokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

But options that SkyTeam can take are:
Avianca
TAM

Fokker50



Bogota, the South american gateway!
User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Simple, Swiss like Switzerland is an island in Europe. Because they are not part of the "European Union" they have very little to offer in Europe. There's nothing Swiss can offer that another EU carrier can't. More so now as the EU presses forward towards unification and centralization of everything relating to air travel. In my view they are a niche carrier to server the Swiss business community.

User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

TAM will join when they open at least 10 more intl. routes.
AV will join after C11. For sure.



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineANA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 294 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Also Swiss don't want to disclose their loyalty scheme customers with the alliances - this was one reason why oneworld couldn't agree with them about joining.

Anders


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

AF also has many flights into Switzerland, and they share many of Swiss' international routes, so there is not much of a need for Swiss.

 Smile
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Skyteam is chock full of european carriers, as well as US carriers. What it needs now are more Asian carriers to make it a truly effective worldwide marketing and revenue enhancing tool.


Is my Pan Am ticket to the moon still good?
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

Airbazar
Switzerland did several contracts (Bilateral contracts) with the EU and Swiss carriers have quite a lot of rights in the EU.
I think you don't know how many pax are using ZRH as transit point.

Fokker50
Oneworld yes, but BA?

ANA
Swiss refused to disclose their loyalty scheme customers to BA because of the conditions given.




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User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5724 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

ZRH could be transformed into a good gateway into Eastern Europe, something like the OS of Skyteam. OK never really lived up to that

Mozart,
really? If you compare Eastern European destination network of OK and LX, there's nothing for LX to offer since they are completlely absent from the Baltic states, other Russian cities than Moscow as well as countries like Armenia, Georgia, etc.
I agree that SkyTeam desperately needs a carrier from SE Asia and South America to be truly global.


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

What really surprises me is how many partners Delta has, and I imagine that it is only a matter of time before they pull some of them into SkyTeam.

http://www.delta.com/skymiles/getmiles/airline_partners/index.jsp

 Smile
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
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