GSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2473 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2334 times:
I hope we'll see some of these larger RJ's at GSP soon!
Looking for more & better service at my home airport.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7524 posts, RR: 22 Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
I am a little confused as to who will be the actual operator of these planes.... one of the wholly owneds I am assuming. Perhaps this is also a step by USAirways to rationalize their express partners too.
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Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
PSA I believe will operate the jets like they are doing now. I do remember a conflict with the PSA pilots back not to long ago concerning something about the number of seats vs pay on the CR7 violating a clause in a contract. If this has not been resolved I think that Mesa will take the CR7's and fly them for US to help US avoid this clause in the contract. But hopefully PSA can work out their problems with their crews and fly these CR7's under the PSA name. I know PSA has not been to reliable lately with their whole operation, hopefully they can turn it around quickly and get back to providing the good service to passengers that they used to in the past.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6476 posts, RR: 22 Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2186 times:
Is Piedmont going to remain a prop operation, or will it too be converted to RJs?
Lindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
Piedmont will remain all prop airline. PSA is operating only 7 or 8 CRJs on behalf of US. Rest of CRJs in US Airways Express fleet are operated by Mesa.
To add to this post:
Chautauqua and Mesa are operating ERJ-145s for USX.
MidAtlantic is operating EMB-170s.
PSA is operating Do-328s and CRJs mentioned above.
Alleghany and Piedmont are operating DHC-8s
Colgan Air is operating Saab 340s
Mesa is operating Beech 1900s
Trans States Airlines is operating BAe Jetstream J41s
(And I have no idea if CommutAir and CCAir are still flying for USX - if they are they are operating B1900s and J32)
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6476 posts, RR: 22 Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2176 times:
With USAir bringing in the 85 EMB170, will they have to be so dependent on Mesa? In essence, my qeustion is.. wouldn't it be better for US if they had more wholly owned RJ carriers like AA, CO, and DL? Seems like US is WAY dependent on Mesa....
Besides, isn't Mesa supposed to pull a Independence Air soon anyway.. taking over the PIT hub and making it their hub?
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2093 times:
I do remember a conflict with the PSA pilots back not to long ago concerning something about the number of seats vs pay on the CR7 violating a clause in a contract.
Piedmont will remain all prop airline. PSA is operating only 7 or 8 CRJs on behalf of US. Rest of CRJs in US Airways Express fleet are operated by Mesa.
To add to this post:
Chautauqua and Mesa are operating ERJ-145s for USX.
MidAtlantic is operating EMB-170s.
PSA is operating Do-328s and CRJs mentioned above.
Alleghany and Piedmont are operating DHC-8s
Colgan Air is operating Saab 340s
Mesa is operating Beech 1900s
Trans States Airlines is operating BAe Jetstream J41s
There are many inaccuracies above.
PSA operates approximately 34 CRJ-200s and 4 CRJ-701s right now. They're taking 3 more CRJ-200s in the 3rd quarter, 4 more CRJ-701s in the 3rd quarter, and 6 more CRJ-701s in the 4th quarter. That will complete their CRJ-200 fleet at 37. The CRJ-701 fleet will eventually reach 48. All of the D328s will be retired by September.
MidAtlantic indeed operates the EMB-170. They currently fly about 13-16. They are taking 15 more in the 3rd quarter and 9 more in the 4th quarter. They will eventually fly 85.
Mesa flies both the ERJ-145 (about 36 of them) and the CRJ-200 (they will fly 31 of them, not sure that they're all in service yet).
Chautauqua indeed flies the ERJ-145, 29 of them.
Trans States flies both the J41 (7 of them) and the ERJ-145 (about 17).
Air Midwest (owned by Mesa Air Group) flies the B1900D.
Colgan flies both the Saab 340B and the B1900C/D, about 14 of each.
Allegheny and Piedmont indeed fly Dash 8's. Allegheny flies only the Dash 8-100. Piedmont flies both the Dash 8-100/200/Q200 and the Dash 8-300. Allegheny is in the process of being merged into Piedmont.
Shuttle America still has a few Saab 340s in the US Express fleet, but they'll be gone soon.
(And I have no idea if CommutAir and CCAir are still flying for USX - if they are they are operating B1900s and J32)
CommutAir is no longer a US Airways Express carrier. They are currently a Continental Connection carrier.
CCAir is no longer in business. Thank Duane Woerth for that one.
[Edited 2004-07-28 17:39:03]
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RT514 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
Sounds good.
Although my first flight an a CRJ won't be until later this year, I have heard that the CRJ700 (and 900 for that matter) are vast improvements over the CRJ200... especially in that one can look out the windows now without having to be a contortionist.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
US Airways has converted 23 CRJ200 orders into CRJ700/900 orders, bringing totals to 37 CRJ200 and 48 CRJ700/900.
Just to clarify, the orders have been converted into CRJ-701 orders. US has the option to convert these into CRJ-900 orders. US does not currently have scope relief to fly 90-seat aircraft.
Seems like US is WAY dependent on Mesa....
While Mesa is the largest of the US Airways Express regional jet operators at the moment, both PSA and MidAtlantic will eventually operate more planes. US went from having 0% of its RJs flown by wholly-owned carriers in November of last year to 21% of its RJs flown by wholly-owned carriers at the end of the 2nd quarter.
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Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2045 times:
A330323X.....
So what's the problem with crews at PSA.....are they taking more than they can handle with training??? They are still having terrible crew problems here in DAY.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2032 times:
So what's the problem with crews at PSA.....are they taking more than they can handle with training??? They are still having terrible crew problems here in DAY.
Part of it seems to be training problems, not having enough time to train all the new J4J pilots on the CRJ and train the existing Dornier pilots on the CRJ, with the quick rate they're taking delivery of the planes. (Also, with all the various convoluted agreements and contracts, certain people "have to" be captains, and that's screwing things up a little I think.) Part of it, unfortunately, just seems to be an incompetant or overtaxed crew scheduling department.
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Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
Thanks for the quick response A330323X.....
As I understand it all the PSA stations are getting killed.....but since we(DAY) have the HQ and maintenance base the effect on their operations is greater here. We(C8) had a maintenance delay(which is a LONG story) on Monday morning and had reroutings set up with US.....unfortunately for us both PSA cancelled 3 flights just that morning and took delays on several others. It's an everyday thing here though.....you would think they would have some better solutions than cancelling or delaying flights day after day. Hopefully everything will work out over there sometime soon!
Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1993 times:
I do see that sometimes they will downsize the aircraft. Just yeaterday we had a passenger flying to DAY I believe and it would not let us check her in for the connection in PIT due to a change of equipment. So we looked at the availibility screen and it showed a CRJ as the aircraft that was supposed to be used but then when we went to the passengers booked screen it showed that they swapped a CRJ for a D38 and now the flight was oversold by 12. At least they are trying to accomadate some of the xld flights with other aircraft. I'm sure in due time it will all work out but i'm sure for most of us it can't be soon enough.
Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
On July 30th PSA will cancel 47 flights due to lack of crews
On July 31th PSA will cancel 27 flights due to lack of crews
On July 29th PSA will cancel 49 flights due to lack of crews
This info is directly from my station manager who got it sent to her from US headquarters. This is sad that it is this bad for them. Looks as if they might have gone to fast with the CRJ flying.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1807 times:
Freshlove1....that is simply amazing! I'm sure the nice USAir folks here in DAY will get AT LEAST a handful of those cancellations if not more. My thought is......if things are that f**ked up day after day and you will foresee that things will not get better in the short term....why do you still schedule the flights????
Rjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1799 times:
Those are APPALLING cancel numbers...
the legacy carriers are being pulled down by their inept feeders.
Another thread RE: trying to find good help in MEM is equally appalling...they (NW airlink) wants to hire 200 part timers with no benefits, vacatiion or anything...that is toatlly NUTS
Av8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 12 Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1795 times:
The CR7s are going to be flown by PSA and not MESA.
Scootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 10 Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1685 times:
Rjnut:
the legacy carriers are being pulled down by their inept feeders.
Wrongo on that one pal!
The cancellation statistics above represent the fight between U ALPA and PSA ALPA over who flies the 70 seaters. That is now settled, so the staffing situation at PSA should soon be rectified. It is not the PSA operation itself, per say, that is dragging down US.
Piedmont and Allegheny, in the throes of a merger themselves (in fact they are officially merged as Piedmont Airlines), are also experiencing an unusual number of cancellations do to short pilot staffing. Attrition at these airlines is the highest it has been in a long time, with LCC hiring and pilots "flowing up" to Mid Atlantic Airlines (the EMB 170 operator) being the primary culprits. Moves are being made to shore up the staffing side of the house, but management is a bit behind the ball. Once manning levels return to appropriate levels, we should see PSA and Piedmont running their typically efficient operations.
A prediction regarding Mesa: Look for them to be a MUCH smaller player in the US Airways Express arena in the not too distant future. As PSA and Mid Atlantic add jets, management will want to end the wasteful practice of "fee for departure." All of US Airways Express jet flying will eventually be done in house.
Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1356 times:
Hey Scooter, now that Allegheny and Piedmont are one under the Piedmont name why are some of the Allegheny guys still using the Allegheny call sign when they call in range? Also we herd that YV was going to add another 15 CRJ-200's to the USE fleet with in the next 8 months to help US with their restructuring plans and that Trans States might be the one on their way out. Have you herd anything on this?
Scootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1251 times:
Lets see...
As for the Agony... er, Allegheny folks still using their callsign, I have no idea. I am not even sure we have integrated the operations enough yet to include them using "Piedmont." If we have, it may be force of habit or they may be making a statement about what they think of the merger. Maybe we should have a combination callsign? Might I suggest "Allemont" or "Piedagheny."
YV's CRJ additions: I will still stick with my original thought that anything Mesa does is temporary in nature. Fee for departure is expensive, U has little control over the quality of the product and Mesa's performance consistently stinks. As MDA ramps up operations, look for Mesa to go away, starting in PHL.
I have not heard about Trans States going away, but it wouldn't surprise me. TSA's ops are mostly in and out of PIT where MDA will be "large and in charge" in short order. I understand that Shuttle America will soon be no longer a USX carrier... And good riddance too! I would love to see Colgan go too, but I don't think we will see that anytime soon.
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