FlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4750 times:
I don't know which gateways are permitted but I believe that it the regulations are part of the US-UK bilateral (as Bermuda is a self-governing British dependency) so looking within that might yield the answer.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4653 times:
US Airways is the #1 carrier to Bermuda, with 52 weekly flights from 8 destinations.
US Airways offers daily service from Baltimore, Boston, Charlotte, New York, and Washington, twice-daily service from Philadelphia, Saturday service from Orlando, and Wednesday and Saturday service from Fort Lauderdale.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
Erj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6822 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4502 times:
You could be correct, MAH4546. I saw some document (can't tell you what it was, but some A.netter posted it) that showed routes that were not used but still on the book and AA still had the RDU-BDA route on the books. That was as of earlier 2004 though... not sure about now, however.
Petazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4381 times:
Kind of an arrogant guy aren't you? For many people, a britsh colony is not an obvious destination from LGA as LGA is 95% domestic. US might actually be the first airline to ever have service to Bermuda from LGA. It has traditionally been from JFK or EWR in the past.
What is the point of the rest of your post? Get a life.
As for BA serving Bermuda from New York, I wonder why that stopped? Seems intriguing that the island wouldn't have its own little airline to keep its hotels full and prices reasonable.
Ba97 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4353 times:
As a regular to BDA from YYZ, I am always questioning 2 things.
Why BA does not run flights to Toronto or the USA from BDA?
The flight from Toronto seems to be a cash machine for AC. They fly an A320 down and back same day(AC942/AC947). In the past, I have been on 767s and L1011s. The prices of Tickets are always high and with the exception of a few months in the winter, the flights always seem full. It is always cheaper to connect through the US gateways but adding 5 hours of travel time makes the extra cost easier to swallow. Why has no one tried to take a chunk out of AC's service?
there is economy class, business class, first class...then Concorde..pure class
Jaybird From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4320 times:
BOAC use to have a lot of caribbean service out of JFK - bermuda, the bahamas (nassau - not sure about freeport), jamaica, the west indies .. service was discontinued (i think) as more u.s. airlines received awards from the CAB into the caribbean - and as longer-range aircraft permitted flights from london to the island .. i remember flying a super vc-10 jfk/bda .. that was great! and i remember taking a $125 round-trip on northeast from hartford to bermuda .. miss those yellowbirds!
also traffic to bermuda is -very- seasonal .. peak is late may to end of august when it's warmest .. flights are cut way back during the winter season .. hotels die in the winter there which is part of the reason they charge so much during the peak season ..
Lat41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4087 times:
As a frequent visitor until the past few years, when it got prohibitive ($$$), I found that the tourist traffic really went to sleep after the Christmas period and stayed that way for the next few month. Over the last few years as more corporations have set up or expanded their shops at BDA, the business traveler, has gradually become a more important component in year round BDA traffic. Also remember, that much revenue is derived from what is "below the floor" on an aircraft bound for BDA in the form of freight and mail and that is less sensitive to seasonal fluctuations. A tour operator did operate Providence to Bermuda service with A320s several years back. The airline I cannot recall. This of course was charter and other cities may have had the same arrangement. Years ago the dominant US carriers I remember there were Eastern and PanAmerican. This web site has some great pictures.
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3335 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4069 times:
The cost of BDA flights has hurt tourism there greatly. A friend who works for the Bermuda Dept of Tourism told me that in the past few years they've been subsidizing hotel nights in order to keep the package prices reasonable. It's a beautiful island, but it can be pricey.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12263 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4058 times:
Having worked for a tour operator that use to offer BDA, it is a hard market to offer. The hotel rates are set by the Government and hotel association, prices are high for anything you want, no rental cars.
StargoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4024 times:
BA only operates LHR - BDA a few times a week (it might be LGW).
BA doesnt really care for the route and has sole rights on routes starting from the Island.
They only operate it to keep the competition out.
High prices on the island and BA's monopoly make it expensive from Europe so the island suffers because of this.
Bermuda needs to get rid of the BA monopoly and all of a sudden a few more european carriers may discover the island... and prices may fall.
It's called the free market.
Until then it's an Open market for North American carriers to the island without fear of "local" competition.
Personally BDA as a hub from the east coast US with a BDA based airline.... now theres a winning idea, especially with the stop over options....
Lets face it i'd rather connect in BDA than DCA ! if I were heading from North to South ? and probably less East Coast traffic in the way
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
: Didn't BA used to do BDA-PIT or BDA-TPA or something for a while not all that long ago?
26 Ned Kelly
: Jasepl: I have a 1992 BAW timetable, and yes BAW did operate a LGW-BDA-TPA-BDA-LGW route. According to the timetable, it was operated by a DC10.
: Thanks Ned! I guess that clears up the questions about BA's authority to fly from BDA to America then... They can. And they did. But they don't any mo
: One also has to consider that Bermuda is a very small island and there simply isn't enough space for too many people flying in! 2nd: A reason for BA t
: British Airways also operated LGW BDA NAS for a while. The DC-10's were some of the ones acquired with the takeover of B'Cal and were retained until n
: way back when (20 years ago?), i took BA from BWI to BDA on an L1011. the flight went on to LHR or LGW. this was before BA offered nonstop service fro
: Aviation Letter recently mentioned that USA 3000 will commence weekly EWR-BDA this winter. This is surprising as very few charter carriers fly to BDA.
: Some recent pics of BDA... http://www.pbase.com/turbinedux/bermuda - -