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Can Pilots Have A Smoke In The Cockpit?  
User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11228 times:

Hello all... Smokin cool

I was just wondering what company policies there are considering that?

It's probably not allowed, right?



Cheers and good night,

jstflyin  Smokin cool

[Edited 2004-07-31 23:37:39]


When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
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User currently offlineCaravelle From Norway, joined Aug 2000, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11004 times:

Not allowed, and, in my experience, doesn't happen. Once hitting tarmac, everything can happen, though.
I've smelt fumes upfront departing from way back in the cabin, but never during actual flight....

- caravelle



Trains and boats and planes....
User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11001 times:

I believe that AF might allow it.

Could this topic be an example of abuse of smilies?

 Smile
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14139 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10984 times:

Depends on the company policy, most American and European carriers don´t allow it, though once I found a half smoked huge cigar in the Captain´s side bin of one of our US registered freighters . Older planes still have ashtrays installed.

Jan


User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10984 times:




I have seen it happen, so I was wondering!

I don't think it is a problem..if both pilots are daccord with it!

With todays superlocked Flight Deck doors no smoke should be able to "break" into the pax section  Big grin ...

cheers jstflyin



When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10973 times:

Some airlines, such as Vietnam Airlines, allow it.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10935 times:

I remember seeing a cockpit picture where the flight deck was filled with thick cigarette smoke. Forgot which airline, though. Maybe someone can dig it up.
-N243NW Big grin



B-52s don't take off. They scare the ground away.
User currently offlineTbanger From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10886 times:

Not in Oz.

Rex doesn't allow a pilot to smoke in uniform in public. All smoking is prohibited on board all public transport vehicles in Australia.

If I owned Rex, then I would even ban eating in the cockpit. It costs us thousands a year in repairs to the Audio Control Panels which is located directly under the cup holder. Another is the GPS controller. Most common faults with both of these units is from spilled drinks or biscuit crumbs.  Angry

Maybe I would allow bottled water, if they asked me real nicely. Big grin



User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10795 times:

AV policy prohibits smoking for passengers and all crew members anywhere on board any company airplane whether on ground or inflight.

AV757


User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10778 times:

Alaska Airlines wont hire someone if they use Tabacco products.

I L U V 7 6 7


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10725 times:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but nicotine consumption while at high altitudes can adversly effect ones performance in the air as compared to at ground level. I don't know if this is true or not, I think I read something about it ground school. It might just be unpressurized aircraft, but even in commercial jets the a/c is usually pressurized to 10000ft.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineSDFOH From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10695 times:

I have talked to a pilot that flew the dornier 328. He said that on long taxis or ground holds he has been known to fire up a smoke. If you leave the burger hole open, the pos pressure will force the smoke right out of the a/c, pretty handy for those long ground times.

User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10623 times:

"Alaska Airlines wont hire someone if they use Tabacco products."


That's pretty harsh if you ask me. What's their reasoning behind that? Could even be considered descrimination.


User currently offlineWGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10591 times:

I would agree that the AS policy of not hiring tobacco users is discriminatory, but unfortunately the courts do not share my opinion...

-WGW2707


User currently offlineArkhem From Ghana, joined Jul 2004, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10573 times:

Positive rate, I presume their policy is such because of health insurance costs, can anyone confirm/deny? Or do they just 'pride' themselves because of their puff-free staff? I believe there was a recent topic posted by someone who applied for a job at Alaska airlines and was turned down because of their smoking habits. I certainly won't be working for them, not that I would want to work there anyway...lol

User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 443 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10540 times:

Not sure if there is any company policy regarding that for KE (don't have a FOM at home), but I have entered the cockpit on a couple of occasions to the smell of smoke. Could be from either the maintenance guys or previous flight crew.

Know a couple of F/O's who have complained regarding their Captain smoking on a longhaul too, mostly on cargo flights though.



One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time
User currently offlineEjazz From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2002, 724 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10478 times:

Smoking in the flight deck was widespread on Singapore Airlines but is now supposedly not allowed although no-one takes much notice including quite a few Management Crew.

I don't mind people lighting up at all and would prefer the First Officer to have a smoke if he needs it rather than suffer from any withdrawls during critical phases of flight.



Etihad Girl, You're a great way to fly.
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10445 times:

Smoking is the epitome of weakness and ignorance....there is NO health benefit whatsoever to smoking a cigarette. None.


I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10420 times:

N243NW,

I think that pic may have been removed from the database because it got the photographer who took it into some kind of trouble in another discussion forum.

I do remember the pic though.



Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10359 times:

Air India & Turkish pilot does smoke in the cockpit but no idea the company allowed or not.

Cheers
N503JB



HKIA Ramp Spotters
User currently offlineSV777KiloAlpha From Saudi Arabia, joined Dec 2003, 267 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10266 times:

I was flying on MEA from Milan to Beirut last June and some passengers and F/As took turns smoking in the cockpit since it was a "Non-Smoking Flight"

LOL.

 Big grin
HZ-AKA



PPL since 2006
User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10253 times:

I have seen it happen as well here in the states. And Cargo as well ashing in a cup of water in the flight deck. . . At the time it never crossed my mind due to the fact that they were all in the open in doing it so I assumed it must be allowed.

User currently offlineBMAbound From Sweden, joined Nov 2003, 660 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10106 times:

Another carrier that allows smoking is CargoLion (Methinks it doesn't exist anymore). Anyways, I saw a documentary about the life of a freight pilot and the captain on the DC-8 smoked.

johan



Altitude is Insurance - Get Insured
User currently offlineLoadsheet From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9976 times:

after working some years as Ramp Agent:

No Smoking:
Air France, Finnair, Air Dolomiti, Air Baltic,

Smoking ( if allowed or not - pls ask somebody else )
Turkish Airlines, Alitalia ( with cigar !!! ), Adria, Cyprus, Onur Air, Pegasus; but the most airlines mentioned here smoked in cabin during turnaround, not in the cockpit except the first two )


User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9841 times:

AF pilots can drink wine in the cockpit as part of their meal. About as far as you can go.

25 FinnWings : Here in Northern-Europe many countries have very strict laws considering of smoking. Smokers are used to follow these rules as smoking is so restricte
26 Imonti : I agree with JBird, my mom smokes, terrible, im stopping she says, but that is beside the point, as I said if you ever have any problems from it I wil
27 SN-A330 : I've seen the pilots smoke during flight only on 2 carriers: - Olympic Airways - MNG Airlines Regards, SN-A330
28 Kilavoud : I was allowed for about ten minutes in the cockpit when flying back from Mexico, between Madrid and Paris, flying over the southern part of France, in
29 Wing : Smoking in the cockpit depends on the regulations of the airlines.In Turkey we started to adopt some rules about the smoking in accordance with EU an
30 AirframeAS : I presume their policy is such because of health insurance costs, can anyone confirm/deny? At AS, yes it has alot to do with cost cutting savings on h
31 9a-ctk : I recently flew OU Croatia Airlines SPU-FRA and several times during the flight it started smelling of cigarette smoke. It was very annoying, especial
32 Klmyank : When Jumpseating on CY last year, the Captain and F/O chain smoked all the way from LCA to AMS. They were joined in the cockpit by the cabin crew at r
33 CessnaLady : I've been a jumpseat guest in MX's cockpits three or four times. In one of these occasions, the commander did not allow smoking in 'his' cockpit (whic
34 Bigfoot : Seen it on Alitalia, JAT and Tarom...
35 Post contains images FoxBravo : I remember a particularly laid-back Alitalia flight from Lisbon to Rome back in 1994. I was seated in the front row of economy, and the first class se
36 Starlionblue : My friend jumpseated on Iran Air. The Captain chainsmoked all the way to the landing.
37 Post contains images Sleak76 : (I guess the captain was not a smoker!) Good point. Same with Kuwait Airways - depends on the captain. Though legally no one is allowed to smoke anywh
38 Olympic A-340 : Ditto Olympic Airlines....considering 99.9% of Greece smokes it goes without saying that the majority of crews do as well. I recall seeing a picture o
39 Elmir : Hello all... I was just wondering what company policies there are considering that? It's probably not allowed, right?
40 Sleak76 : I was just wondering what company policies there are considering that? I think, in general, its more of civil avation authorities' policies that airli
41 Post contains images GRZ-AIR : Thanks guys for all the nice responses... Thing is, I have experienced a "smoking Captain" (due to cigarettes) more than twice during 2-3 hour flight
42 Pilotpip : I didn't really see anybody mention the extra costs it adds to maintinance. "North Star Over My Shoulder" by Cpt Bob Buck mentions that TWA banned pil
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