Rongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
I thought the rest of the world might be interested in this from this morning's New Zealand business news.
The NZ company Infratil owns 100% of PWK and held its AGM yesterday. This was reported about PWK:
"However the news was not all sweet for shareholders - earnings before interest, depreciation and write offs at Glasgow, Prestwick fell to NZ$2.05m from NZ$4.04m. Freight volumes fell by 21% in the first quarter despite passenger numbers rising by 21%.
Infratil director Lloyd Morrison gave a frank description of Prestwick as looking a 'shambles' and said it needed some 'serious money' spent on retail and other facilities for passengers.
Infratil was 'less than happy' with PWK's performance. "We are working very hard to do something about this."
Freight volumes had fallen by 5% a year since Infratil bought its first stake in 2001. It took 100% this year and 'is now in a position to be decisive'."
AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
I would love to see Prestwick install some jetways, and how about some US service! To close to GLA I know but airlines like ATA could give it a try.
StearmanNut From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1138 times:
Having been into PWK a couple of times, I agree it is kind of seedy there. I feel the amount of traffic generated there may not support a shopping centre atmosphere, but maybe if international flights from the US could be instigated, there is potential.
And what is it with this PWK separate Belfast departures waiting area? Is it set up with metal and bomb sniffing detectors or something?
If wishes were horses, a Tail Dragger I would fly...
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1127 times:
Gee whiz, an airport whose raison d'etre disappeared when GLA/EDI added transatantic flights, and in a chronically poor corner of Europe to boot. Surprize. Surprize.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 933 times:
"And what is it with this PWK separate Belfast departures waiting area? Is it set up with metal and bomb sniffing detectors or something?"
All airports that operate flights to N.I. have seperate areas for departures. They used to have alot more security, but over the last few years and with the decline in terrorism in N.I. then the some of the extra security measures have been dropped although the security services still "keep an eye" on the routes.
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Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 919 times:
"Does LHR have a seperate departure area for NI flights ?"
When I used to work in T1 for Bmi, it was gates 8-12 at the far end of the domestic pier. I think that they have had a shuffle around now though since they did that part of the terminal up, not sure what the new gates are now tho.
"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 918 times:
OIC - I've not been down that end of the BD pier. Did BA have a seperate departure area for BFS flights ? All the Shuttle routes (MAN/EDI/GLA/BFS) I thought used to go from the sort of square gate area at the terminal end of domestic departures, but I remember having to schlepp to the newer domestic/Rep of Ireland airconditioning duct to fly to MAN, so I could be confused (very likely !).
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 55 Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 912 times:
In T1, gates 74-78 are domestic gates, and gates 82-90 are for ROI flights. Gate 79/80 can be used as either. It is gate 80 when used for ROI and gate 79 when used for domestic.
BA used to operate out of gate 9 to BHD and BD used to operate out of gate 10 to BFS, with Manx using gate 12 for IOM but that flight also had to use the extra "facilities" like the other NI flights as alot of the "nasty people" would travel via the IOM.
Not sure what the current set up is now that BD are the only airline to NI and Manx now go from LGW and the terminal has since been re-developed.
"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2880 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 900 times:
If it wasn't for Ryanair the airport would be no more. No other airline has an interest in setting up passenger services from there, they should just knock the airport down and concrete it over.
Glasgow does not have enough of a population to have two airports and Glasgow International should be developed to handle the capacity from Prestwick too.
When you enter the airport it is like going back in time to the 1960's, and barely looks like a penny has been spent on it since then.
The airport likes to boast about it's railway service. But when I travelled there I was sat on the unstaffed station platform for 50mins waiting for a train to Glasgow and then was an all station stopping service which took a further 40mins.
GLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1965 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 899 times:
GilesDavies
The only way PIK will be demolished is if Ryanair leave. But now that I'm writing about it, even if FR did go the airport would remain as the cargo aircraft wouldn't be able to land at GLA or EDI due to parking restrictions for aircraft of 747 size. FR are a constant thorn in GLA's side, but in terms of Scottish aviation they are very good as they have opened up Europe to Scotland with crazy prices to nice places (albeit some airports are in the middle of nowhere).
But with GSM expanding rapidly at GLA there is hope that one day the old services will return such as CDG, FRA and BRU.
Maybe PIK is a shambles but it still functions, and as long as it does that neither FR or the pax will be too bothered.
Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
CKT789 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 874 times:
I would doubt that FR would want to pay for upgrades to be done at PIK (through possibly higher landing charges). So long as planes can land and passengers can get off and on, I think FR would be happy.
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