Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
CRJ900 Almost Stalls Today!  
User currently offlineCRJboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 92 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11144 times:

hey y'all.... today I was the flight attendant on America West Express (Mesa Airlines) flight from PHX to MSP. (Yeah, it sucks for 3 hours in sucha small plane) Anyways... I was done serivng drinks and we were throwing the trash when all of a sudden the plane starts vibrating and we hear the gnines like choking, then we drop...then we stabilize..then we drop...i walk to the back and we go on this huge drop and i fell to the floor...i held on to a passengers armbreast...then we stabilized i called the flight deck and he said "we lost air speed stanby in the back" and the plane kept choking and vibrating... then after a few minutes we kept dropping and stabilizing...we were cruising at FLT370 now the captain called me back and said "we are at FLT330...all stabilized..." and that was it...HOLY HELL...i was scare.d.the other flight attendant freaked out and i told her..."please keep calm for me and for the passengers...(i was all smiles and laughing bc i didnt wanan dcare the passengers...everyone was asking and i said..we jsut hit some turbulence over the rockies.. and they just didnt ask anything else... but while we were dropping and stabilizing i was preparing myself and the other f/a for an emergency landing or whatever...we were also kinda rolling to the left a bit while the engines were choking...it was horrible feeling...anyways i just wanted to tell you my story of today...im still in uniform i wanted to come tell you all right away...gotta go shower...any comments are appreciated!



51 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAreopagus From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10863 times:

i held on to a passengers armbreast...

Wow, sounds like an exciting experience!


User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10845 times:

No worries, it was the Chemtrail machine cutting out.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Yikes though.


User currently offlineUNDAEROSPACE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10825 times:

What a hair raising experience you must of had this experience brought some of your training to the test. Thankfully everything is okay.

User currently offlineJeffDCA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10779 times:

Sounds more like a patch of serious CAT than a stall. Several airliners in the past have had drops of several thousand feet at cruise altitude. I know of similar drops by BA, AA, and QF aircraft.

Cheers,

Jeff


User currently offlineIluv2pilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10739 times:

Yep, almost 99% sure it's CAT.

User currently offlineCRJboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 92 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10729 times:

the stall warning went off the the au tpilot sound came on that it was disengaged...i was working flight attendant a

User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10714 times:

Sounds like you earned your pay today  Big grin

jeremy


User currently offlineType-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10716 times:

From your description it sounds like the plane wasn't trimmed properly and the engines had a mild case of compressor stall.
What is really bizarre is that this happened enroute. Everthing should have been on automatic (auto-pilot, etc.) unless the pilots were playing around with the engines and aircraft pitch. This is highly unlikely.
I think that this was more likely a case of chop (turbulence) than aircraft performance issues. But why the engines were "choking" is beyond me. Did you ask the Captain what happened when they landed?

Remember, "turbulence" scares people, "bumpy air" doesn't.



Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
User currently offlineJeffDCA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10696 times:

the stall warning went off the the au tpilot sound came on that it was disengaged...i was working flight attendant a

That would happen due to the aircraft being in a stalled condition in the area of CAT.

Cheers,

Jeff

[Edited 2004-08-06 02:29:36]

User currently offlineEzycrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10695 times:

CRJboy... your profile says you're 16-20 years old.... I didn't know airlines in the US hired before 21... after all you're required to serve/sell alcohol, no?
You could please clarify this... thanks

Cheers


User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10645 times:

Ezycrew

Accoring to Mesa Air's own web site, the minimum age is 19 years old.



The New American is arriving.
User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10641 times:

Minimum Age for MESA flight attendants is currently 19 years old.

User currently offlineEzycrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10627 times:

okay fair enough....was just wondering... are young f/a's allowed to serve alcohol or do they have to ask an adult f/a to do it for them?

User currently offlineAirStatDFW From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10559 times:

In the US you only have to be 18 to serve alcohol.

User currently offlineCRJboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 92 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10484 times:

hey..i served up a storm of alcoho...im 19...i just cant open the drinks...but i can sell them and all...but i cant open it... and mesa doesnt have a license to serve liquor on the ground...but im 19 and i love my job...its the job of my dreams...we can talk about mesa..but hey...its a start..hehe..but yeah today was horrible...oh and by the way the a/c was 909FJ

User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10433 times:

CRJboy,

Good for you for trying to act casual in front of the passengers. A few years ago I had a terrible fear of flying (I didn't let it stop me from traveling, but I worried) and whenever something out of the ordinary happened, I would look at the FAs for their reaction and if they didn't look worried, I felt okay!


User currently offlineCRJboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 92 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10407 times:

I told the other flight attendant to make her feel better...I was like "girl just get ready and look cute for the firemen and paramedics" and she laughed, and I pulled out my manual and rpepared her...who was 3 years senior to me for the emergency she had never had...we did our 60 second review...emergency exits, commands...etc. I did it all and explained to her what we were going to do. i was sh*tting bricks, but someone had to be in charge in the passenger compartment at least and remain calm for the 86 souls we had on board. We were ready for anything and I was very calm. Now I am all jittery. LOL But honestly this experince has changed my lfie and i take everything from now on more seriously, and I can jsut say that this experince has changed my lfie for the good, and I still LOVE MY JOB.  Smile and I wouldnt trade it for the world  Smile Except maybe work for B6..haha  Smile

User currently offlineJeffDCA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10376 times:

Sounds like you're a natural CRJboy! It's always great to see someone who clearly enjoys their job with as much enthusiasm as you. Here's to many happy flights to come!  Smile

Cheers,

Jeff


User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10314 times:

I'd edit out the date and routing of the flight so you don't get into trouble. Mesa isn't a big fan of having stuff like this posted on the internet.

-n


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10302 times:

We had a flight a few months back that encountered severe weather enroute. The crew believed the aircraft was struck by lightning, which probably was the case because the radar onboard was fried(took a huge delay going back waiting for a maintenance tech to arrive on the next flight). The flight was so bumpy 5 people onboard were vomiting the whole flight. One passeneger spent most of the flight in the lav because she was so sick(two days later when he flew back out she was still very woosy). The flight crew told me it was so bumpy the negative g's were making the oil pressure lights come on in the cockpit. Thank GOD I wasn't on the flight!

Chris


User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10248 times:

Hey if Johnny O dosent like this kind of stuff posted on the internet then have him give me a call and we will talk. I support any of our employees that decide to share an expierence, good or bad, with us. Good thing it all turned out ok.

User currently offlineBjg231 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10214 times:

Well at least you got one benefit out of the situation. When you were thrown to the floor you must've gotten an eye level's view out of the windows.  Big grin

Kidding aside, congrats for maintaining professionalism in the crisis.



If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving is not for you.
User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10094 times:

"girl just get ready and look cute for the firemen and paramedics"

How come whenever I show up on an emergency scene the women never look cute for me??? Big grin

Just a side note, I was working the MSP flight for a few minutes this morning. I am always suprised how full the MSP runs are lately, considering when I usually head back home (MSP area) the flights are usually empty.

[Edited 2004-08-06 05:25:49]

User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10054 times:

holy sh*t, we flew through his jet wash! eject, eject!! eject, eject, eject!!

sorry, i had to add that. but damn, must have been some experience. i really wonder what caused it. perhaps that that a/c is just too damn heavy for those engines. (at least looks it)



"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
25 Post contains images CRJboy : Thanks for all your good responses I'm glad we are all ok..and nothing happened, except a few spilled cran apple juices and bloody mary mixes. Hehe.
26 JetMechMD80 : Just for the record, there so no such thing as a "compressor stall". It is a surge.
27 Post contains images Tbanger : Just for the record, there so no such thing as a "compressor stall". There is a term known as "compressor stall". It is an aerodynamic stall of the fi
28 AZjetgeek : I realize that the CR9 is the largest in the Bombardier RJ family, but a 3-hour flight on that route seems to warrant a 733 or an A320. Leave it to HP
29 JBirdAV8r : It occurs frequently in Australia during the summer time when the air is hot and the pressure is very low. It is more common shortly after takeoff whe
30 Crj 900 : Ummm i've had something similar happen in a 200......the a/c was on autopilot,everything was set up nicely in the cruise, smooth beautiful day, we wer
31 Post contains images Pumaknight : I have been flying as passenger for many years and so many flights I have lost count, but this year for the first time, I experienced turbulence!! Not
32 PanAm747 : Hey CRJBoy!! You did EXACTLY what a f/a is supposed to do - you maintained your composure and dignity throughout the flight and kept the passengers ca
33 Hemispheres : Sorry, but what is CAT?
34 JBirdAV8r : CAT=clear air turbulence
35 JGPH1A : Re: Sorry, but what is CAT? Cue UTA_FlyingHigh and Pluchette !
36 UA777222 : After about 3hrs of clear air and great weather (LAX-FRa LH 744) the meal service was either starting or ending but the f/a was going through the asil
37 Nwa747-400 : CRJboy: do you hold a line on Mesa or reserve? what is a or b f/a on the crj700/900?
38 JetService : How the hell can a cat get sucked into the engines at that altitude??!!!!
39 Jfkviaphx : Coming into PHX I always hit turbulence. This is caused by the hot air rising. Into JFK, well that's just fun. Especially when you have a "virgin" int
40 Flyboy7974 : if i am correct since the girl i am seeing is a mesa f/a, f/a a or b determines by seniority who is charge of the a/c, and thus, who sits front f/a se
41 JetMechMD80 : Tbanger, You don't need to explain turbine engine theory to me. I understand what is going on when what you and many others call a "stall". But the fa
42 Post contains images JBirdAV8r : Jetmech, Hate to disagree with you, but your position is incorrect. I'm sure you are aware of the physics of an aerodynamic stall. Since any turbine b
43 JetMechMD80 : JBirdAv8r, First off I am not taking anything personally. Like I said before, I am fully aware off what is going on here, and I know that the turbine
44 Greg : Thank God a flight attendant was onboard to smile and save the passengers from instant death! No offense, but my credit goes to the cockpit crew. By y
45 Greasespot : But if you look in the overhaul manual of a JT8 you WILL find compressor stall used. It's definition is exactly that...The blades of the compressor st
46 JetMechMD80 : Give me a ref, I have the JT8 overhual manuals here also.
47 Miami1 : CRJBoy - I have to say also it isn't clever to discuss this kind of thing on a public forum. A bit different to discussing it 'inhouse'. Whilst I can
48 Post contains images JeffDCA : CRJBoy, If i were you i'd remove your last name from your profile, and also change the 'other info' section. Best way to stay anonymous, when you post
49 Phx757 : Isn't that flight operated by Freedom airlines? Flt #6549 PHX-MSP 7:45 - 12:43 ...now thats weird.. I was checking PBT's online and it says its operat
50 MD-90 : I don't really think that this qualifies as being a disparaging comment about Mesa. Doesn't the post just comment on an incident that could've happen
51 Goldenshield : Freedom, Air Midwest, and Mesa all fall under the Mesa name; however, they all have seperate crew pools (unless Mesa finally merged the Freedom and Me
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
I Almost Had Had A Mid-air Today! posted Sat Jun 10 2000 22:50:56 by DeltaATL
DL Begins JFK-ACC Today posted Mon Dec 11 2006 22:16:42 by RwSEA
Today First Austrian Flight To Erbil, Iraq posted Mon Dec 11 2006 13:27:32 by BuyantUkhaa
Zoom Flight At YHM Today posted Sat Dec 9 2006 23:52:10 by Fly_yhm
6 QF 744 Aircraft At LAX Today posted Sat Dec 9 2006 05:12:49 by PA110
Allegiant's IPO Sells Today At $18 posted Fri Dec 8 2006 01:23:17 by FATFlyer
Ryanair Flight Almost Crashed, Aaiu Report posted Wed Dec 6 2006 07:14:24 by AirLittoral
UN Dash-8 At BHX Today... posted Mon Dec 4 2006 21:00:39 by JakTrax
Two AY MD11s At The Same Time In SIN Today posted Mon Dec 4 2006 10:45:07 by LordHowe
AI 772 In CDG Today 03/12, Why No 747? (pics) posted Sat Dec 2 2006 17:18:14 by Stevens91