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Emirates A310-300 Routes Going Down From 6 To 4  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7233 times:

Emirates has one A310-300 left in its fleet. Its registration is A6-EKL and it will remain in the fleet until March of next year.

Emirates' single A310-300 is in a two-class configuration of 21 Business Class seats and 177 Economy Class seats for a total of 198 seats.

Emirates will no longer operate the A310 to Istanbul and Beirut starting this September.

Emirates flies daily to Istanbul on A330-200s except the Saturday flight which is on an A310-300. Starting September 18, that flight will upgrade to an A330-200. All flights are on two-class configuration aircraft.



Emirates flies 12x weekly to Beirut on A330-200s except the afternoon Tuesday flight which is on an A310-300. Starting September 21, that flight will be upgraded to an A340-300. All flights are on three-class configuration aircraft.



Beirut will become the 7th A340-300 destination after Casablanca, Frankfurt, Johannesburg, Osaka, Perth, and Shanghai.

Emirates only brought back the A310 to Beirut back at the end of March as part of their frequency increase from 11 to 12 flights a week.

This will mean that Emirates' only A310-300 routes will be Bahrain, Karachi, Muscat, and Tehran. Only some of the flights on some days of the week to these destinations are served on A310-300s.

The A310-300 flights to these four cities will switch to other aircraft with the start of the spring schedule at the end of March.

I always thought the A310-300 looked great in Emirates colors. It will be missed.

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Does anyone know the exact date of when Emirates will return A6-EKL back to the lessor? Anyone know its fate? She's a relatively new A310 being built only in 1993.

And before anyone asks, yes I made the timetables in Microsoft Excel. I've been practicing and learning how to use Microsoft Excel lately as I'll need to know it for college. So I did them for practice, took just a few minutes.  Smile

Regards


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7126 times:

Sad, really. Such a cute plane.

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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7009 times:

Didn't they have some routes into DOH as well on a 310?


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User currently offlineFlySwiss From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 443 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

I thought EK uses the A310 for traffic to Pakistan like PEW or ISB.


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12633 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6956 times:
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For many of their regional flights, EK will plonk any plane they've got on any given route on any given day.

I've flown DXB-DOH or DOH-DXB many times on EK, and I've flown on A332, 772, 773, and the last time, the A310. I've not yet seen an A340 on the route though.



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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

I am definately going to miss this plane. She looks quite cute and also did a great job for EK.


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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3154 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6922 times:
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Personally, good news for me, as my wife is frequently flying DXB-IST on standby, and Saturday usually is a convenient travel day for us, so I appreciate the extra capacity (and she the better comfort of the 330)


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User currently offline7e7 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6844 times:

Great job BA on your excel work  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

A310 had been EK's work horse during the 90's, to destinations like:

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HKG :
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MAN :
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LHR :
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LGW (If you have ITVV's Virgin Atlantic 747Classic DVD, an EK A310 can be seen in LGW towards the end of taxiing):
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DUS :
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[Edited 2004-08-06 13:40:44]

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

I'm sure that Air Iindia are just waiting for these birds to add to their expanding A310 fleet !

User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6684 times:

The EK A310s could go anywhere. If AI doesn't take them up, then I'm sure Syrian, Iran or Libyan airlines would be in the queue.

It would certainly help them as they might find buying stuff problematic still.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6591 times:

I'm sure that Air Iindia are just waiting for these birds to add to their expanding A310 fleet !

AI has already added the former A6-EKP as VT-EVX, but the A310 fleet is not likely to grow any more beyond the addition of VT-AIG and VT-AIH for a total of 21 airframes.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6542 times:

Didn't they have some routes into DOH as well on a 310?

They did recently, I'm not sure when they stopped. Perhaps sometime earlier this year.

I thought EK uses the A310 for traffic to Pakistan like PEW or ISB.

They used to, but not anymore. They switched PEW to A330s sometime about a year ago after the runway in PEW was upgraded to handle the A330.

PEW was the reason why they kept this single A310. Because until relatively recently, PEW could not handle the A330.

I've flown DXB-DOH or DOH-DXB many times on EK, and I've flown on A332, 772, 773, and the last time, the A310. I've not yet seen an A340 on the route though.

Airlines do last minute aircraft equipment changes often.

I know until relatively recently, they did used to fly the A310 to DOH on a scheduled basis, but it has been a while.

Emirates does not fly the A340 to DOH on a scheduled basis.

Currently the A340-300 serves the following routes:

Casablanca
Frankfurt
Johannesburg
Osaka
Perth
Shanghai

As mentioned in my post, they will start flying them to Beirut on the Tuesday afternoon flight starting September 21st.

The A340-500 serves the following routes:

Auckland
Christchurch
Melbourne
New York
Sydney

I took the time to type up a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet showing what routes each of Emirates' aircraft serves based on the week September 20 to 26. Here is the link if anyone is curious:
http://mea707.lrehosting.com/emirates.html

If anyone finds any errors, let me know! And yes, I'm only doing these for practice. It's not a job, although that'd be cool.  Smile

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Whitehatter,

Syrian is planning on acquiring some new Airbuses. I read it in a Lebanese newspaper a while ago.

They want to renew their fleet with modern aircraft. I think they will get more A320s.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6335 times:

Where does the 310 operate on a Saturday? I have seen that they do a morning rotation on DXB-BAH-DXB but then I didn't find any 310 flights anymore.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6203 times:

Swissgabe,

Take a look at my post. You will see it operates to Istanbul.

Regards



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6172 times:

BA,
if not mistaken I checked it in the CRS but it didn't show up. I will do that once again tomorrow and maybe I will find it then ...
txs for help and cheers!



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

Swissgabe,

Here it is straight from the schedules, I circled it for you in red:



Effective until September 11. It switches to an A330 on September 18.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6099 times:

Thanks BA, I found it in Amadeus as well. Just curious, the above Schedule, guess it is from EK, is it connected to a CRS or does it work on the basis of a data file?

Even when comparing different CRS's, you will find different aircraft types on the same flight number. I had this problem recently with KE's 743 flight. In some CRS the NRT-ICN flight was listed as 744 and in Galileo as eg. as 743 flight. I wonder if EK would do a equipment change a few days before departure, if it would display in the schedule above.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6091 times:

Swissgabe,

I noticed that the Emirates schedule usually is updated a few days after the CRS (when checking Amadeus). I assume that it is connected to the CRS, but is not updated at the same time, but pretty close.

For example, when I saw that EK was going to upgrade the Tuesday BEY flight from an A310 to an A340-300 on Amadeus, the change appeared a few days later on the Emirates flight schedules.

I always check Amadeus before the Emirates schedules. I only use the Emirates schedule to find out what classes are offered on the flights. But when it comes to schedules, aircraft equipment, etc. I always use Amadeus.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

I was checking yesterday in the CRS, the flight from DXB to IST today was scheduled with an A332.

And now as well on the EK website.
From To Departure time Arrival time Total travel time Aircraft type
Dubai Istanbul 2:35 pm
14 Aug 04 6:00 pm
14 Aug 04 4:25 Airbus Industrie A330-200

Could be an ad-hoc change of acft equipment. I would love to fly this plane before it goes ...



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5911 times:

Thanks for the info Swissgabe.

Yeah it looks like a last minute change of aircraft.

If you want to definately fly the A310, try Beirut. When I was in Beirut, I spotted the A310 every Tuesday that I was out.

Regards



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

I'm sure they'll be longing for the sensibly sized A310s once they start parking their surplus A380s, at least they won't have to look far for deserts to store them in.

User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5861 times:

This constipated-looking aircraft will definitely be missed...

User currently offlineFlyssc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5805 times:

I love the A310-300 but I still don't see the interest for an airline like EK to keep a single a/c of one type in its fleet during such a long time... Nuts

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5726 times:

I would be glad to visit BEY one day. The only problem is, that I normally do "weekend-trips". But if I might get some extra days, I consider flying via DXB to BEY and check out the 310. However, MEA is as well on the top of my want to fly list.


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25 Post contains links and images BA : However, MEA is as well on the top of my want to fly list. That's good to hear. Check out my trip report if you want to get an idea of MEA's service.
26 Emirates777 : Emirates actually uses the A340-300 on a number of other routes. Although not officially "scheduled" the acft has operated these routes so regularly o
27 Post contains images Behramjee : Emirates777...who told you about EK starting TPE and ICN flights next year with A 343s??? I am interested in knowing the source of your info pertainin
28 Emirates777 : Asian press carried an article on it last year. Of course things always change at the last minute at Emirates, but from another source i understand th
29 BA : Emirates777, Why are they going to start flying the A340-300 to Beirut (BEY) on the Tuesday afternoon flight? Is it because they don't have enough A33
30 Emirates777 : BA I think its largely due to lack of available A330s at Emirates. Note the A343 acft has been used considerably over the summer to routes like NBO, D
31 Horus : Emirates777, do you know if EK ever plan to increase their flights to CAI from their current 8x weekly flights? They've been like that for the last fe
32 Emirates777 : Horus From what i understand there are strict seat limits on the DXB-CAI route under the air service agreement. Emirates would like to go upto a doubl
33 Horus : Thanks for the info Emirates777, it's the answer I suspected. Besides EK and MS, SQ also have 3x weekly B773 flights on the route (with 5th freedom ri
34 Emirates777 : Horus Thanks for the info and insight into the Egypt market - most interesting. From what i recall Emirates have on the odd occassion substituted the
35 Horus : Emirates777, Can you provide me with detail of these extra flights? Now relating to the ban of LCCs from DXB, the UAE Authorities are planning to buil
36 Emirates777 : Horus As for the extra flights here are the details: 29 Aug 2004 EK3927 DEP DXB 0730 ARR CAI 1020 B777-200 High Density 29 Aug 2004 EK3928 DEP CAI 113
37 Horus : Thanks Emirates777 Are they using the 'low density' A332s as they have bigger premium (F and C) cabins? So you have subscriptions to Airliner World to
38 Emirates777 : Horus I think they are using the A330-200 low density largely because these are the available acft. Ideally they'd like to put on larger acft but thes
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