Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62 Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3819 times:
According to Airliner World magazine, Malaysian low cost operator, Air Asia is on the verge of making a decision for 80 short-haul aircraft as it continues to expand its successful operations. According to the airline's Chief Executive Tony Fernandes, both Airbus and Boeing have an equal chance of winning the tender. Currently the LCC operates a mixed fleet of 737Classics. Deliveries are expected for late 2005/early 2006.
I think this will be a fiercely fought battle between A and B (A319? and B73G?).
Kl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3750 times:
Wow, 80 A319's would be perfect!
But I asume some of them are options.. I don't see them ordering 80 firm for the moment. Anyway, if they order the A319, Malaysian customers will be very happy. Perfect, beautifull plane!
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2080 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3731 times:
Perhaps they'll surprise all of us and order Embraer EMB190/195s.
Especially the EMB190 will become known not only as a regional jet but also as a smaller mainline jet after jetBlue starts flying them next year. Spacious, medium range, great economics, 100 seats = only 2 FAs, less empty seats on T/O, more frequencies.
SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3705 times:
I can see this order going either way (A or B, not E - yet ), and although we might get a few hints, my best is that we will not know for sure until the order is announced.
Qexonial From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3675 times:
Howdy,
I don't see AK buying anything else besides Boeing aircrafts. With Valuair, Tiger Airways and Silkair of Singapore using the A320, I just don't see Tony choosing the A320. Maybe except for cutting cost on flight pilot training, I guess they would just expand their current B737 classics with B737NGs. I hope for B737-700s and B737-800s with winglets! As for the Embraers, I don't think they might since no neighbor airlines are using it yet.
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5394 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3667 times:
The future is A vs B vs E, you'll see...
I hope so, at least in narrowbodies. For sure it will add more variety to those endless Airbus vs. Boeing wars here on a.net. Hopefully, I'll try Air Asia (along with Nok Air) in two weeks myself. Can't wait for it!
Horus,
any idea about the exact date for the decision to be made?
Miamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3566 times:
Wow, 80 A319's would be perfect!
But I asume some of them are options.. I don't see them ordering 80 firm for the moment. Anyway, if they order the A319, Malaysian customers will be very happy. Perfect, beautifull plane!
I don't know if it's a perfect fit for them or not, but it's Airbus ugliest creation to date before the A380 beats it in that dept. Both of those Airbii are so ugly it's almost obscene. I woudnt care for aviation at all if that's all the aircraft that flew.
just thought I add to the value of the thread lol
seriously, I hope they go with Boeing and help the local economy!
SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3533 times:
I don't know if it's a perfect fit for them or not, but it's Airbus ugliest creation to date before the A380 beats it in that dept. Both of those Airbii are so ugly it's almost obscene. I woudnt care for aviation at all if that's all the aircraft that flew.
Ugly? Nah. They are the cutest planes for my model airport, and I am not talking about the 1/500 versions.
Warren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1132 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3519 times:
I think they should go for the 737NG especially with winglets looks far sexier than the 319.
However, politics is hard to say in Malaysia these days. After all they prefer the Mig29 over the F-18s.
Syarif From Malaysia, joined Jul 2004, 29 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3428 times:
For the majority of Malaysian whose flying experience is only the B737-400/300 (Malaysia Airlines and AirAsia), an A320/319 would be wierd and unnacustomed to. The A320 family have no place in Malaysia, it will be the friendly and longtime friendship of the B737 that remains and will be in the hearts and minds of Malaysian.
MAS A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3411 times:
For the majority of Malaysian whose flying experience is only the B737-400/300 (Malaysia Airlines and AirAsia), an A320/319 would be wierd and unnacustomed to. The A320 family have no place in Malaysia, it will be the friendly and longtime friendship of the B737 that remains and will be in the hearts and minds of Malaysian.
Uh, actually i dont think many Malaysians care if its a 737 or 320/319. I dont see why a 320/319 would not fit in here. It suits the need just as well as the 737 does. It gets pax from point A to point B.
Flyerfly From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 31 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3321 times:
I agree with MAS A330. IMHO I don't think many AirAsia customers would care about which type of aircraft the airline would use to transport them, as long as it is safe and well maintained and able to do the job.
For budget airline users, the type of aircraft is secondary, the main attraction for them is the low ticket prices.
Asianguy767 From Singapore, joined Oct 2003, 263 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2885 times:
maybe an order for the B717? i think it would fit quite snuggly into their network while keeping cabin crew numbers down since this aircraft has only 2 exit doors...
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2846 times:
I don't see AK buying anything else besides Boeing aircrafts. With Valuair, Tiger Airways and Silkair of Singapore using the A320, I just don't see Tony choosing the A320. Maybe except for cutting cost on flight pilot training, I guess they would just expand their current B737 classics with B737NGs
If you are trying to keep pilot training cost down, then the 737NG would be the way to go. The 737NG can easily be configured to display the 737-Classic cockpit display and crews can maintain cross-certification between the NG and Classic variants.
PIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
Northwest717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2414 times:
I agree with PIA777 and Asianguy767. I think the 717 would be a perfect fit into that area. Customer satisfaction on the 717 is also very high, or so I have heard. I think it would be great to maybe see a 717/73G joint order!
707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 537 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
Even though Air Asia is a Boeing operator now, don't be surprised if they switch to Airbus. The points made above notwithstanding, there hasn't been a single order lately where the size is completely out of proportion to the resources of the airline which has not gone to Airbus.
DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2308 times:
I agree with PIA777 and Asianguy767. I think the 717 would be a perfect fit into that area. Customer satisfaction on the 717 is also very high, or so I have heard. I think it would be great to maybe see a 717/73G joint order!
Some airlines are thrilled to death, but I can think of several JetStar birds that have been traded and repainted more than a dozen times in 5 years.
The points made above notwithstanding, there hasn't been a single order lately where the size is completely out of proportion to the resources of the airline which has not gone to Airbus.
I wouldn't go that far. Boeing has scored many coups this year, very few of us thought Air NZ would order the 777s and 7E7s and the First Choice/Blue Panorama has exceeded the resources of the airlines, in some people's opinion.
MidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 16 Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2259 times:
One type is plenty cheaper than operating a mixed fleet, Southwest has proven this over the years, so going with the 737NG would make perfect sense. Even though the 717 is cheaper to operate than any 100 seater aircraft, I would still go with the 737NG
In terms of operating a mixed fleet, just look at the problems that Easyjet is having.
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