LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1966 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8649 times:
I think it's unbelieveble that such a known carrier as Air China gets involved into something as bad maintenance. China is going to be one of the biggest marktes in the world for leisure and business and if people see this, they wil not chose for Air China...
Just my 2 cents from a bl**dy hot Holland... (the weather is always wrong )
N276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8606 times:
That is truely sad. It's sad that the income of revenue is far more important than people's lives. If I were a passenger and found out that my life had been put in jeopardy like that, all hell would've broken out in China.
Stretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8582 times:
I recently watched the Discovery channel's program about the crash of AA Flight #191, the DC-10 that went down at ORD in May 1979.
In a re-eenactment of the TO run, passengers look out the windows to see the No.1 engine busting up and off the wing. Now there is something you don't want to see, especially if you are on the aircraft
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COAMiG29 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8417 times:
The fact that it flew is amazing but the airline/cargo service obviously flys the planes till they crash and burn. I have also heard that CAAC the Chinese airline removes the instruments from the cockpits as they do not believe in electronics. Do a photo search on flight decks on caac.
If Continental had a hub at DFW with nonstop flights I would always fly them, unfortunantely good things take time.
Francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 4236 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8339 times:
Miamiair: Thank you.
The engine was victim of a FOD, so it was removed from the A/C.
Maybe it was strapped to prevent it from windmilling in order to make a ferry flight on 3 engines, but I refuse to believe any crewmember would, in his sane mind, take off on a revenue flight with only 3 engines. This could simply lead to grounding the whole frickin' airline if the authorities realized.
It is easy to get some pictures of a fodded engine that was strapped for a ferry flight and use it to destroy an Airline or a country's reputation. Plus this is hardly a reliable source, which takes advantage of the fact that there are so many gullible people on the net to make sensationalistic news.
And apparently it works.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3968 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8222 times:
I agree with those who say it sounds bogus - as soon as I read it I was practically heading for snopes.com to see if it's shown up there. (I don't see it, but it might be there somewhere; might not have propogated enough yet though.)
I would think more likely than making a three-engine ferry flight, though, this engine was probably ferried as a fifth engine, which 747's are capable of carrying. You really can't tell much from these pictures, though.
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StearmanNut From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8164 times:
Big problems in replacing big engines in a foreign country. I remember an AN- 124 that sat down at DFW a few years back and had to get a replacement engine flown in from the Ukraine.
Main problem was that Customs would not pass the new engine into the US unless a huge import tariff was paid on it. The other problem was that the maintenance facility had to obtain funds in cash up front from the AN's owners before they would allow the faclities and labor to be used to install the new engine.
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FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3067 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8048 times:
I have some serious doubts about this one. First of all, people love to bash Chinese airlines, but although there was good reason back in the 80s, these days Air China is a reputable airline that I am quite certain would not let a revenue flight take off with an inoperative engine. Furthermore, I don't recall hearing anything about this incident in recent memory, and I am fairly sure that something this scandalous would have been pretty big news in the aviation community. Finally, those photographs mean nothing--the engine is just sitting in a hangar next to what appears to be an Air China aircraft. It is not even installed.
I have no idea what the real story behind the photos might be. Maybe it really happened as described, but 20 years ago. Or, more likely, maybe it's just a photo that is totally out of context. I'm sure the truth is out there somewhere...
ASTROJET707 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 299 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7871 times:
screaming, crying, infants, out-of-control toddlers and CELLPHONES.
The last thing I want is to be on a transcon with passengers yapping their way from one coast to the next. I enjoy the quiet, it is a break from a hectic schedule.
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