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British Airways Launches "buy BA Miles"  
User currently offlineFlyLondon From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

BA have added the ability to buy BA miles to their website much as the US majors have offered for a while. However its it extremely expensive at £16 ($25) per 1000 miles plus £15 admin fee.
To put that into context, the cheapest London-Paris return flights if you buy them normally are £65. With BA miles you need 12,000 miles plus you have to pay the taxes of around £20. So to buy enough miles for a redemption value of around £45 it costs £207, plus you can only buy 15,000 in any one calendar year.

As I see it the only people who will use this are those who have hundreds of thousands of miles and need just a few thousand more for a FIRST flight to Oz or something like that.

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User currently offlineKl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4232 times:

As i've said before on this forum: I think this Miles thing is extremely stupid! If they lower the prices like the LCC's do, people will save the money anyway to buy that extra ticket. But : The difference is they can fly when they want, where they want, and with the carrier they want.

Passengers never understand that this mileage program costs a lot, and it's the client who pays for it. It's all included in the ticket price.

KL911



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User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Why don't people just rack up the BA miles... oh, wait, I see why now. BA are STINGY when it comes to giving miles! 25% for anything less than full Y fare. Waiting 7 months to credit EK flights. I'm going to use the miles I've got and then bail out, try a different FFC.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4186 times:

Thai airways Royal Orchid Plus already has such a system where you can purchase miles up to EUR/USD 600, with a maximum of 40.000 miles.


Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 689 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

actually, these "buy miles" programs are not to make people buying their miles but give them the oportunity to buy _some_ miles if only a little amount is missing for an award. for example, if you want to go first class to the USA from germany, you'll need 140.000 miles plus round about 100 euros in tax.

let's say you've got 130.000 miles on your account - 10.000 missing. you can buy those 10.000 miles for 250 euros so you get your F-Class roundtrip for 350 euros in total. good deal. that's why airlines offer it, not to keep you out of their planes  Smile

cheers,

ben


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

FlyLondon,

Both AA and AC also allow you to buy miles. Yes, it is expensive to buy them and they
both (I think) have a max amount you can buy every year. As I understand it, the whole point
of buying miles is not to allow you to purchase tickets just with the miles you buy but
to use them as a top-up if you don't have enough. E.g. say you want to get a business
class ticket that costs 80,000 miles and you only have 70,000 miles. You can buy the
remaining 10,000 if you wish.

Geoffm,

You will not be the first!

Regards,

Tony



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

LH offers this since a while

As i've said before on this forum: I think this Miles thing is extremely stupid! If they lower the prices like the LCC's do, people will save the money anyway to buy that extra ticket. But : The difference is they can fly when they want, where they want, and with the carrier they want.

Passengers never understand that this mileage program costs a lot, and it's the client who pays for it. It's all included in the ticket price.


A little too easy.. it does very often not harm to collect mileage anyways (it's free) - joining a mileage program is not necessarily connected to any commitment. Then, they are people like me who have their problems with LCCs - as many business travellers who do not want to be treated like s--- - not everyone only decides upon price, some people look for standard. LCCs do not really go intercontinental, like many people go. Leave it to the pax' choice before you make 'stupid' statements saying that things are stupid and claim that pax are not able to understand

LH for instance offers a VISA Cad to market conditions. If one has this card, mileage is valid w/o limit..


User currently offlineSleak76 From Kuwait, joined Nov 2000, 345 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

not everyone only decides upon price, some people look for standard

Good point!

I think it's great BA finally allowed us to top-up our mileage account. Regardless of how cost-ineffective it is, when im 10K miles short, I sure would find buying miles would be cheaper than to fly another 10K miles to earn it.

Consider this. I'm 10K short for a free J class ticket to JFK (which requires 80K from LHR). I pay 160 pounds plus their processing fee of 15 for a total of 175 pounds.

Now, where on earth can I fly to for 175 pounds and get 10K deposited into my Exec Club account?

Flylondon. you make a valid point when using LON-PAR as an example. In that case, it's not worth the cost. However, this was made for the long-haul traveller in mind. To use redemption tickets and top-up for those long haul flights intended. If its long-haul, you'll end up topping-up at a MUCh cheaper rate than flying once (or even twice) to get that missing amount (in this case 10K).

I think it's a good move afterall which could prove helpful to some of us who sometimes find themselves just falling short of a 'freebie' Big grin



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User currently offlineKl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Mrniji,

'''Leave it to the pax' choice before you make 'stupid' statements saying that things are stupid and claim that pax are not able to understand'''

Looking at your posts today you are the record holder of giving 'stupid answers'

People like you bring this site down.....



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Looking at your posts today you are the record holder of giving 'stupid answers'

People like you bring this site down.....


Stupid statements and questions like yours only deserve stupid answers  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

BA have to be about the meanest of all the global carriers about giving out FF miles - I use AA for my Oneworld flights, precisely because of this. I only have a BA Exec card so I can use online checkin 24 hours before departure not 12. I vow never ever to accumulate miles on the account.

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