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CX To Top 100 Aircraft  
User currently offlineBabaero From Philippines, joined Jan 2002, 462 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3321 times:

CX's fleet will exceed 100 aircraft after committing to eight used Boeing 747-400s, half of which will be converted into freighters. The aircraft will be obtained from a number of owners and operators and arrive from now through 2006. The airline plans to purchase seven and lease one other.

This acquisition follows orders made earlier this year for one new B747-400 freighter plus two new B777-300 and six new Airbus 330-300s to join the airline's regional fleet. These combined commitments will swell the airline's operating fleet from 86 all-wide-body aircraft at present to 103 in just over three years, after the final A330-300s arrive. This additional investment will add to the approximate 20 percent increase in passenger capacity made by the airline in the past two years.

Six of the eight aircraft will be powered by Pratt & Whitney 4056-3 engines and the other two by the Rolls-Royce RB211-524. All the aircraft are of a similar age to the B747-400s already in operation with the airline. Cathay Pacific currently operates 19 B747-400 passenger and 5 B747-400 freighter aircraft.

Four of the newly acquired aircraft will support the expansion of Cathay Pacific's passenger fleet, following a complete retrofit so that the aircraft and cabin meet the same standards as existing Cathay Pacific aircraft. The other four will be converted into freighters and deployed on trunk routes to Europe and North America.

In January this year, Cathay Pacific announced it would be the world's first airline to take part in the new B747-400 passenger-to-freighter conversion programme, and has so far committed to convert six aircraft with options on six more.


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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2083 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

Where are these aircraft coming from? I'm assuming the 6 PW powered aircraft are coming from SQ. But what about the RR examples? BA and QF don't seem to want to ditch any, particularly the latter. That only leaves NZ and SA and again, neither of those are ditching RR examples are they? Or is SA disposing of a pair in a couple of years?


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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

SQ is selling 3-4 B 747-400s to CX

User currently offlineTrickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

That's great for CX! Now maybe they can expand service to Chicago. Insane


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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

SQ sold 5 744's to Dragon Air and 3 to CX. There is talk of one RR 744 coming from SAA.

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

....and talk of the other from BA....and the other 3 P&W ones from UA.

User currently offlineKosmonaute From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 90 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Do the new planes have anything to do with route expansion?


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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

No, they will not expand their service. These aircraft will be parked around CLK to make it look more busy than it is  Nuts

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Seems as though 6 will be from SQ and two from South African now.

User currently offlineAdol From Malaysia, joined Jul 2001, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Do the conversion (pax to freighter) retain the SUD? Thanks

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2732 times:

Yes they do .

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10696 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2691 times:

1 leased from SQ (9V-SMN)
3 bought from SQ
2 PW-powered 744s from unknown source
2 RR-powered 744s most likely from SAA

All aircraft aqired are 10 years or older.

This will create a mix of RR- and PW-powered aircraft in both pax- and cargo-fleets!


User currently offlineB-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Three of them were previously owned by Singapore Airlines, three of them owned by 'another party' but operated by Singapore Airlines. The two RR 744s were owned by someone else but operated by South African Airways.

User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

All-widebody-fleet. Sounds impressive...
CX must be very short on 747s, I don`t think that they would buy 747s with different engines under normal circumstances, or do they already operate different engines in the -400 fleet?


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

These will be the first non-Rolls Royce 747-400s to join the fleet. At the moment, almost every long-haul port is asking for more capacity, so the 747 is definately in demand, and the freighters are the busiest they have been so more freighters are needed, especially in light of declining reliability of the classic freighters.

User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 629 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Oh, no wonder why CX tickets are so hard/expensive from London, looks like they are doing really well. Are there anymore 744 coming after this?

Kev



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17025 posts, RR: 67
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

I remember flying CX in the 80s. "The only airline in the world with only widebodies powered by Rolls-Royce engines". That was 742s and L-1011s IIRC.


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User currently offlineAC From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2004, 77 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

These will be the first non-Rolls Royce 747-400s to join the fleet

CXflyboy, do you guys in CX need additional trainings for handling PW-powered aircraft?



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

I'm placing my bet now that the P&W's are going to be ex-UA a/c. QF needs more 744's. SQ has already dumped all of the ones that they are planning on dumping. The 2 MH 744's that Boeing has (do they still?) I think are RR powered (Isn't MH a mainly RR airline?). That leaves UA a/c!

Could they convert 742's into Cargo? I think VS has a few old 742's in the desert.... Thanks again!

And isn't CX interested in the 777-300/ER? Will we be seeing any orders? Or do they already have one?

Thanks again!

UA777222



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5316 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

(Isn't MH a mainly RR airline?).

Not they are a GE operator on the 744's atleast.

Could they convert 742's into Cargo?

Yes but no because I believe they plan to replace their 742F's with these 744SF's.

And isn't CX interested in the 777-300/ER? Will we be seeing any orders? Or do they already have one?

Yes I have heard they are and there could be an order quite soon, then again we may not see one for a few years.


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

UA just seem to digging their own grave, they rejected the bid from TG and we assume they did not like the offer from CX.......

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

AC,

Yes all the 744 pilots will have to do a short course about the operation of the P&W engines along with a short exam.

UA777222,

It has already been announced that all 6 P&W aircraft will be coming fro SQ and the two RR ones from SAA.


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