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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

What was behind the reason for cancelling this service back in the day?


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

I found out with their timetables schedules for service from DEN-KOA will made continues on their Saturday only service to KOA with UA.

[Edited 2004-08-10 03:06:53]

User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32613 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

The service still operates. It is seasonal. This winter it operates 6 November 2004 through 2 April 2005.


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

haven't seen it in the computer, kind of odd they wouldn't have it in the summer as well.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Thanks, MAH4546 and it will made go year-round for seasonal flight to KOA and I remember when I was there in KOA from 8 years ago.

Regards


User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

If memory serves, I read somewhere that this flight is block purchased by a cruise or tour operator to feed the cruise ships. Perhaps they change thier schedules, thereby loosing a lot of consistant revenue for us.

FA4UA



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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Norweign Cruise Line is bringing another ship online in the Hawaiian Market. I forgot the name (Pride of Aloha I think)...They brought the Pride Of America online a few months ago to do freestyle cruising. Pride of Aloha is the one that is damaged in the German Shipyard. Total, when completed will be 3 cruise ships carrying something like 6000 passengers total for 3-7 day cruises. From what the Honlulu Star Bulletin frist claimed, Norweign's ships are almost booked to capacity.

User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Norweign Cruise Line is bringing another ship online in the Hawaiian Market

What does that have to do with DEN-KOA service? The Hawaiian ships arrive and depart from Honolulu. That would be like an airline adding service to RSW to feed the cruise ships at the Port of Miami or Port Everglades; it just won't happen. Somehow I am sure UA can fill the plane or any plane in the winter to Hawaii without needing the non-existent cruise passenger revenue.



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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

I was offering a fact that supports FA4UA position that cruise ships can help increase seat capacity by block purchasing seats in the Hawaii market. Here is a example quote from NCL.com:

"In addition, the company announced that it would offer a Maui embarkation/disembarkation option on the Honolulu-based Pride of Aloha, resulting in a seven-day round-trip cruise from Maui as well as the current seven-day round-trip cruise from Honolulu on Pride of Aloha. NCL’s third Hawai`i-based ship, Norwegian Wind, will continue her popular 10- and 11-day Hawai`i and Fanning Island itineraries from Honolulu. Norwegian Wind sails under the Norwegian Cruise Line brand....

...
Maui embarkations supported by new United flight

Today’s announcement coincides with the introduction of United Airlines’ new non-stop Chicago-Maui-Kona service, which complements its recently introduced daily non-stop flight from Chicago to Honolulu.

'United’s new direct route from Chicago to Maui-Kona supports our Hawai`i deployment, especially as we introduce new Maui embarkations for Pride of Aloha and Pride of America,' Veitch added."

--Since these cruises are taking more seats from previously paying HNL connections, airlines can increase their direct city pairings to increase sales and competitive advantage.

While this is not why DEN-KOA seasonal service is in existance, it hopefully expands on my point that Cruise/Tour Operators increase in port embarkment dates during the winter season indirectly helps expand nearby markets.

[Edited 2004-08-11 08:13:22]

User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Yes, this is a seasonal flight. According to the UA timetable, UA1652 ends on September 4. This is normal; it'll be back at the beginning of high season. It is served with a 763.

User currently offlineMattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2110 times:

This is a Sat only service. I know it is operating in the summer, not sure if it is year-round, or summer-only.

User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

It operates in the summer AND winter.

User currently offlineJC5280 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 530 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

NCL has a huge contract with UA for flights to HNL, but unless I am not recalling correctly, Kona is not even a cruise port. It is Sat only service for vacationers and it was a 757 in years past, never a 763. Hopefully it will be a 763 this year?

User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

It is Sat only service for vacationers and it was a 757 in years past, never a 763.

Actually, it has been a 763 for some time now. I have seen it many times.


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