FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2114 times:
If memory serves, I read somewhere that this flight is block purchased by a cruise or tour operator to feed the cruise ships. Perhaps they change thier schedules, thereby loosing a lot of consistant revenue for us.
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
Penguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2023 times:
Norweign Cruise Line is bringing another ship online in the Hawaiian Market. I forgot the name (Pride of Aloha I think)...They brought the Pride Of America online a few months ago to do freestyle cruising. Pride of Aloha is the one that is damaged in the German Shipyard. Total, when completed will be 3 cruise ships carrying something like 6000 passengers total for 3-7 day cruises. From what the Honlulu Star Bulletin frist claimed, Norweign's ships are almost booked to capacity.
DeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 18 Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
Norweign Cruise Line is bringing another ship online in the Hawaiian Market
What does that have to do with DEN-KOA service? The Hawaiian ships arrive and depart from Honolulu. That would be like an airline adding service to RSW to feed the cruise ships at the Port of Miami or Port Everglades; it just won't happen. Somehow I am sure UA can fill the plane or any plane in the winter to Hawaii without needing the non-existent cruise passenger revenue.
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Penguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1829 times:
I was offering a fact that supports FA4UA position that cruise ships can help increase seat capacity by block purchasing seats in the Hawaii market. Here is a example quote from NCL.com:
"In addition, the company announced that it would offer a Maui embarkation/disembarkation option on the Honolulu-based Pride of Aloha, resulting in a seven-day round-trip cruise from Maui as well as the current seven-day round-trip cruise from Honolulu on Pride of Aloha. NCL’s third Hawai`i-based ship, Norwegian Wind, will continue her popular 10- and 11-day Hawai`i and Fanning Island itineraries from Honolulu. Norwegian Wind sails under the Norwegian Cruise Line brand....
Maui embarkations supported by new United flight
Today’s announcement coincides with the introduction of United Airlines’ new non-stop Chicago-Maui-Kona service, which complements its recently introduced daily non-stop flight from Chicago to Honolulu.
'United’s new direct route from Chicago to Maui-Kona supports our Hawai`i deployment, especially as we introduce new Maui embarkations for Pride of Aloha and Pride of America,' Veitch added."
--Since these cruises are taking more seats from previously paying HNL connections, airlines can increase their direct city pairings to increase sales and competitive advantage.
While this is not why DEN-KOA seasonal service is in existance, it hopefully expands on my point that Cruise/Tour Operators increase in port embarkment dates during the winter season indirectly helps expand nearby markets.
JC5280 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 530 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1643 times:
NCL has a huge contract with UA for flights to HNL, but unless I am not recalling correctly, Kona is not even a cruise port. It is Sat only service for vacationers and it was a 757 in years past, never a 763. Hopefully it will be a 763 this year?