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Story Behind This NWA 753 Pic.  
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8371 times:

9/2/2002

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N583NW, In picture 272745 you can see N583NW with its titles covered up. I have received many angry emails saying that the reason the titles are covered is because the plane just came out of the paint shop. This picture, taken 5 days before, shows N583NW in its full paint. It has since returned to the paint shop, where it hasn't come out. Highly unusual for a plane that has already been painted.

9/7/2002

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"N583NW, Are the rumors true, that Northwest is returning their 757-351s to Boeing? I have been covering RNT for 8 years and have never seen an aircraft with its titles covered over. Nikon Coolpix 5000, TC-E2, 170mm."

When was this ever an issue? If so why would they ever do such a thing?

Thanks again!

UA777222


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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8274 times:

As stated, the aircraft had just come out of the paint hangar. NWA has since changed their paint scheme.

I remember the rumors, but nothing ever came of them. NWA has taken delivery of its 753s and continues to operate them as far as I know.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8158 times:

So, a few days after the 753 was painted in the bowling shoe c/s, NW turned around and told Boeing, by the way our scheme has changed, can you paint it again? Who paid for that? Seems like a waste of money. But sounds like NW is very concerned about possibly having a few planes in old c/s for another few years (à la DL) so that there is consistency in their brand. I think most A.netters are happy with that decision. But economically it's gotta hurt for now.

Cheers,
VS346



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7776 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8100 times:

The most recent pic of N583NW still has it in the old livery.


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I suspect that the remasking of the plane had to do with some paint defect.



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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4195 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8068 times:

There was a pressurization problem when the long dongs were first being delivered.


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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7932 times:

VS346...

I meant the paint scheme in general, not on that specific aircraft.

To clarify, that paper covering is probably left over from when the aircraft was painted. As DesertJets pointed out, it may have been a paint defect, which meant that in fact the aircraft had to go back in to get it fixed. Who pays for that I would be interested in knowing.

Still unclear as to the rumors of NWA giving them back. I know those were eventually squashed. Maybe it was pressurization, but I would have imagined that Boeing worked that out by the time NWA took delivery.

Maybe just a bunch of jealous NWA DC-9 fans who for some reason felt threatened by it.  Big grin

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5028 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

Who pays for that I would be interested in knowing.

If it was indeed a paint defect, my guess is Boeing. As long as the plane is not delivered, it is the property and thus responsibility of Boeing. I'm not 100% sure of this, but my guess is that the purchase contract between Boeing and NW stipulates that the aircraft should be delivered to NW painted. Thus, painting is the responsibility of Boeing.


User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7777 times:

So NW can have their a/c painted 1000 times before Boeing delivers it (unhappy with each one) and Boeing will have to go back and re-paint it and pay for it too???

Thanks again!

UA777222



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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

So NW can have their a/c painted 1000 times before Boeing delivers it (unhappy with each one) and Boeing will have to go back and re-paint it and pay for it too???
It is pretty rare that there are painting issues, and there is a difference between a paint defect and airline not being happy (which I have never heard of) or changing its scheme.

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-Will



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7606 times:

NW is not returning its 753 fleet - its amazing how rumors get started, one airliner may have a paint issue that requires some correction work and suddenly an entire fleet of airplanes is being returned!

NW is pleased with its 753 fleet, its very cost effecient to operate -and the 753 has found a new niche, flying each of Northwest's routes from LAX, SFO, PDX and SEA to the Hawaiian islands.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7477 times:

There were some initial problems that Boeing and NW worked out on the 753 as they were the launch customer for the PW-powered 753. No big deal, fairly typical for new aircraft and teething problems.

User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6936 times:

So, a few days after the 753 was painted in the bowling shoe c/s, NW turned around and told Boeing, by the way our scheme has changed, can you paint it again?

This couldn't be the case, as the new scheme came out in 2003 and these pictures were taken in 2002.


User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

Looks like a last minute touch up job to me .....


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

Thanks for all the help guys! I was just flipping through the pictures and saw this and was wondering. Thanks for all the help!

Thanks again!

UA777222



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