CXoneWorld From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
I've heard of the same story too. This is quite unimaginable given the summer high season there in HKG!!
But I guess the cargo business is doing exceptionally well. Indeed one classic "rumour" that I've been hearing all the time is CX manages to make handsome profits just by filling up the A330 cargo belly, with not even a single passenger onboard!!
So finally, could anybody confirm this? This fairy tale sounds too good to me frankly...
Carnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 2586 times:
I have also heard several times in last couple of weeks that the LF for QF's flights between Hong Kong and Australia are often below 50%, and there was a piece of research work I saw somewhere suggested the CX is still doing a lot better than QF on these routes, although there are many factors could be seen as 'possible causes'.
Qantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5798 posts, RR: 42 Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
i think it may also be more of a positioning flight so that Qantas can operate flights out of HK back to other Oz ports, the 2nd QF flight to HK ex sydney usually turns around and goes to Perth, this is also the same with the melbourne flight and Perth flight, though i did take QF from hk-per in april and the load was about 40 people!
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Aussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
What must be remembered yield per passenger is quite high on routes to HKG especially through SYD.
The economy cabin may be half empty. However the premium in J and F is frequently full. All too often a few days before a flight there are many people on J class waitlists.
The advent of flights to LHR throught London and the upgrading of services from 763 to A333 (in terms of product) wll only serve to enhance and boost the market throught HKG for both the Business J class market and VFR Y class market.
The entry of KA and VS onto the scene will have some impact on Y and J average yeilds.
Victor From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
is that cx will add one more daily flight SYD flight this winter ?
cx-- 3 flights a day to syd
qf-- 2 flights a day to syd
vs-- soon to be 1 flight a day to syd
ka-- will operate daily flight to syd next year
7 flights a day to SYD .. is that a little bit too much ?
Senliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 430 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 2135 times:
Speaking as a person who live in Melbourne, I would choose CX than QF. First of all is about the price, usually QF is just about A$5 to $10 cheaper than CX during promotion period. Secondly is coz i am 100% sure that CX has better services than QF: while QF still use their old 767, they don't have PTVs. 9 hours flights without entertainment is a bit too boring, and I can't fall asleep in a plane anyway (but the only time that i fall asleep natually is on QF domestic, SYD-MEL heh). Oh yea, I still reckon CX's fligthcrew is more friendly then QF, maybe coz of my bad experience once so not really interested in trying QF again.
Had wanted to book QF for this Christmas time, but in the end i choose SQ, coz I wanna have a stopover in Singapore. Cheers!
CXoneWorld From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1938 times:
QF only uses the A333 to HKG, complete with PTV Q entertainment system in economy and skybeds in J class.
Okay, just for argument's sake: CX actually offers more entertainment channels than QF on its PTV system!! Nevertheless, I am giving the new Qantas international A333 a big happy "trial" next month, flying between PER and HKG.
Also that today I had a little chat with my travel agent who insisted that QF hires HKG-based crews on its flights, although I wasn't ready to agree with her...
So was she correct or I've just been mistaken?? Thanks
VH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 796 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
Qantas only has long haul bases in Sydney, Melbourne & Perth. Qantas has contract crew (employed by Adecco) in Auckland & Bangkok! I have seen some literature that they have some Japan based crew as well, however I am not sure about that???
Brisbane will open as a new long haul base either by year end or early next year & following that London will be the only other long haul base & that is scheduled to open (Qantas cabin crew UK) by July 2005. From what I have been told, the london based crew will do all the London to Sin/Bkk & Hkg flights, with Australian based crew making up the rest of their flights! Of course the BKK & AKL based crew also fly those routes as well!
As far as Hong Kong flights go I understand that loads with QF have been quite good on Syd & Mel sectors, with Perth flights increasing to 4 a week.
Cheers - BZF
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