AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1417 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2540 times:
I heard that Gulfstream down in Florida is to get some ex-ASA E-120's...Anyone else heard of this? It was rumored that they would get ATR's and even E-120's from Continental Express a few years ago but never happened. If so how many are they getting? I know Lakeland Air has at least one ex-ASA Brasilia.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
The Gulfstream/Continental rumor concerning E120s and ATRs replacing the current B1900s and Dash 7s has been circulating for a while - I first heard the rumor as CO was quickly replacing its ATRs with ERJs at the EWR hub a few years ago. Now, the rumor is hot again, with a lot of talk about the E120s; as CO re-launched service to some destinations with Skywest operating ex-CO Express E120s at IAH as Continental Connection, it would seem that the same type of arrangement could be make with Gulfstream for the intra-Florida and Bahamas routes. I think that CO could certainly use a little extra capacity on the FLL-NAS and FLL-FPO routes operated by Gulfstream - those B1900s seem to go out at capacity very often on those routes.
Njdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 737 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2296 times:
Looks like they are receiving a second one...
Airline Atlantic Southeast Airlines
Flight Number 9326
Departure City (Airport) Hot Springs, AR (HOT)
Departure Time 08/17/2004 02:50 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL)
Arrival Time 08/17/2004 07:05 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Embraer Brasilia EMB-120
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived
Panther From Bahamas, joined Jun 2000, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2203 times:
GIA has a E120 from ASA N282AS for a few weeks now, and will be recieveing about 6 in total for the upcoming 4 months. They will supplement the BE190's. The E120's aren't flying the line yet, but will be doing proving runs very soon. The Brasillias are painted all white for now, cant wait to see them in Continental Connection colors.
A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1989 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2204 times:
Dutchjet was referring to Gulfstream replacing the B1900s and Dash 7s with E120s and ATRs, not CO. CO was originally going to supply Gulfstream with the ATRs to fly intra-coastal routes from FLL as a capacity upgrade, but that deal never came to light.
I am a bit surprised that the E120s are coming from ASA, but then again, there may not be too many COEX E120s still parked in the desert as some are flying for SkyWest here in IAH and others have gone on to fly for NASCAR teams.
"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2159 times:
the CoEX Brasilias are the RT models and 3M needs the ER version. Paint is just paint. Engines & performance are a BIT MORE COSTLIER!!
The planes are going to be used to the Bahamas and open up new Florida-Bahamas routes, although I doubt we'll see them in Key West & Marsh Harbour. When I was in Planning with FCA/Florida Coastal, I worked with Embraer for 3 weeks on possibly picking up the Rio Sol Brasilias (the last to be built) and we just couldn't get the operational numbers to work for our largest markets - KW and Marsh... the runways aren't long enough. We could come in with 30 passengers and 45 bags, but could only depart with 25 passengers and 30 bags.
WE DID, however, find some markets perfect for the Brasilia for both domestic and Bahamian flying... just have to wait & see if Gulfstreams finds these same routes..