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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 898 times:

Just for your information the book was written by a European and definately tells the aicraft industry story from a pro-Airbus point of view. The contracts were legal and right its just that the EU wants to have its cake and eat it to. As Lufthansa loudly proclaims Germans are proud of Airbus. So when is the last thime Lufthansa ordered a Boeing besides the 10 747-400? It seems to me that they are pretty exclusive.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
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User currently offline767-400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 895 times:

The MD-11F. Just a note.


Rooz


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 895 times:

They had to because Airbus doesn't offer a cargo aircraft with that much capacity and range.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 895 times:

Can I though in their subsidary Condor. I belive they where a lauch customer for a certain aircraft family. Or maybe Lufthansa Cityline. I belive they where also a lauch customer for the Skidoo RJ


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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 895 times:

you cant say that Lufthansa is a pro airbus airline. first of all they did have a very large boeing fleet a while back ago. if you look at there fleet from the 60s and up they had basically the 707, 727, 737, 747, and their subsidary had the 757, and the 767 so basically they have a huge boeing fleet. However Germans dont have any preferences for Airbus or Boeing. It does not mean JACK SH** if there country builds those aircrafts. A good example would be KLM, Hollands Fokker produces parts for Airbus now how come they have an all boeing fleet. I think people are just getting paronoid to see an airline have a whole airbus fleet, and that they can't except that Boeing is loosing the market slowly.


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User currently offlineDfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 895 times:

You really need to relax. I fly Lufthansa to Germany quite often, and I was reading the Lufthansa in flight magazine, can't recall then name of it, but the article I was reading stated that they are proud of Airbus, but when buying aircraft it is a business decision, they buy the aircraft that offers them the most of what they need. The large Airbus orders occured for that reason, Airbus offered the best of what Lufthansa was looking for. They also made the point though, that Boeing is a company that offers great products, and it is likely Boeing and Lufthansa will still do business in the future. For what it's worth I think Boeing and Airbus are both fine companies who make decent aircraft. I refuse to take part in the endless Boeing vs. Airbus debates for that reason. By the way, who is the name and other of the book you cited in your first posting? I want to pick up a copy. Cheers.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (15 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 895 times:

When is the last time Lufthansa ordered a 737, 767? Back in the 60's they were but it is 1999 and from what the German (Lufthansa) on the forum says they are proud to order Airbus and don't plan to operate Boeings. In his words flick them off when they get old. If an American airline did this their would be outrage. Thank you for your Pro-Airbus view Drew.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineDfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 7 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 895 times:

I'm not saying you can't sir. I just think that loyalty to a company is one thing, but if a point is ever reached where they can no longer deliver what you need that's a whole different story. I have no doubt that Airbus is providing excellent products to Lufthansa who is obviously pleased.
I do not believe for a second though that Lufthansa would burn its Boeing bridge, or fine, reverse the roles and make Airbus the bad guy, I don't care. No succesful company would ever do that. Think about it, there are, more or less, two suppliers of the product you need on the planet, are you really going to tell one of them to go **** themselves? No, you would not. Not unless you are stupid, which Lufthansa is clearly not. No matter who they are. What if your supplier went bankrupt and was gone tomorrow, then what, go back on your hands and knees? One honcho throwing out tough talk is one thing, the attitude of the company is anonther. The man you mentioned "flicking them off", fine. But I don't see Lufthansa telling Boeing to "go away we don't need you or want you anymore" as a good business decision. And fine, I don't run an airline, but if one of the officers in the company I work for ever pulled something like that, they'd be out. End of story.
I have a lot of respect for Airbus, but I REFUSE to get mired in the endless Airbus vs. Boeing debate. I think they both make fine airplanes. And that's what its about for us, isn't it?


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