Yellowball From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5413 times:
My dream has come true (thanks to a gift of an upgrade from my parents). I am flying on UA from BOS to IAD to LAX in Business! (Well, the IAD-LAX portion at least).
Questions:
1) Should I wear nice clothes?
2) My first segment is in F (though only a short flight). Will their be a meal?
3) Is F domestic the same as Business international?
Radelow From United States, joined Jul 2004, 426 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5226 times:
You can wear whatever you want in Business Class. When I fly it I usually try to dress somewhat upscale (maybe a nicer pair of jeans, collared shirt, and nice shoes). Now if you are flying economy and hope to be bumped to business then nice clothes is a plus.
My mom's boyfriend was flying BA from SAN>LGW a few years back and he was wearing a exercise suit. The lady at the check-in counter told him if he changed into something nicer she would bump him to business. He changed and flew business. Funny huh?
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5200 times:
Would an Adamsuit be the same as a Birthday suit perchance? While you can wear pretty much what you like, you could well stick out like a sore thumb if you're in ripped jeans and everybody else is in business suits...
Was the ticket one way, or do your parents expect you home again?!?!
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 61 Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5136 times:
Tuxedos for men.
Evening gowns for women.
Business class is a black tie affair.
All kidding aside, if you paid for your business class ticket, wear whatever you want. The discussion about what to wear for business class comes up when people think that they will be upgraded on a flight because they are nicely dressed (maybe this was the case at one time, but in recent times, airlines will usually give any operational upgrades to their premium frequent flyers that are booked on the subject flight) and it is also an issue when airline employees are travelling on non-revenue tickets, the airlines usually requires (asks) that the employee be dressed appropriately when sitting up front.
DeltAirlines From United States, joined May 1999, 7317 posts, RR: 16 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5134 times:
For the non-controversial part - no there will not be a meal on IAD-BOS. It'll be a standard service most likely (I'm judging from what I have received on similar length flights in F from DL and US), with you getting pretzels (on US, you get a few more choices, so you might get to choose pretzels, Milano cookies, and something else), and a couple of drink services (pre-flight, they'll come around a couple of times during the flight).
Now for what to wear, I will just tell you what I wear. Minimally, I'll wear dress shoes, a pair of Dockers, and a polo shirt (doesn't matter what class I'm in). I personally do not wear jeans, tee-shirts, sneakers, etc. onto a plane. If I'm in F, it depends. Most of the time, I feel fine wearing the aforementioned attire. However, there are times when I do need to wear a suit, and I will (but only pretty much when I have to be somewhere right after getting off the plane). So I personally would say wear at least a golf shirt, maybe a nice pair of jeans (no rips, etc.), and you should be fine (I don't mind it when people will wear jeans, just as long as they're not ripped so I could see your knees).
Deltaffindfw From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1248 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4998 times:
I usually wear shorts or jeans in first - depending on where I'm going. The only times I dress better is when I'm going directly to a meeting. You might as well feel comfortable when you fly. It's not like my jeans or shorts are ratty. I've never had anyone give me funny looks for that.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 13611 posts, RR: 93 Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4966 times:
Yellowball:
You say that your dream has come true. This suggests it is something special to you.
So why wouldn't you wear "nice clothes" for it? There's no need for a suit and tie - unless you want to - but dressing up a tad will help you give you the sense of "something special".
If others dress down, or can't be bothered with their appearance, that's their problem, not yours.
Ba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 6177 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4962 times:
If you pay the money you can wear what you want,within reason!
If i'm flying Business I tend to wear 'better' jeans(GAP usually) or smart trousers depending on the length of the flight - jeans on the long haul! In addition,I usually wear a smart casual shirt.
When flying 'Y' with an internal 'upgrade request where possible' I wear trousers shirt and tie,always worth the effort,you never know....
DeltAirlines From United States, joined May 1999, 7317 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4912 times:
I don't mind it if they're wearing shorts. However, if the jeans are in such bad shape that I can see the knees, then these jeans should be either patched up or thrown out. Just a personal thing.
Type-rated From United States, joined Sep 1999, 2256 posts, RR: 28 Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4773 times:
It is not advisable to wear shorts when flying for safety reasons. Have you ever felt the texture of an emergency slide? They are like rough burlap. Slide down one of these during an emergency exit and you'll leave the skin off the back of your legs on the slide. Can you know for sure if the flight you are on won't have an emergency? Look at the BA 777 emergency evac we had here at IAH a few days ago.
I recently did an ad-hoc survey of some F/A's and Pilots and I asked them if they cared how people dress on the aircraft. They sure do! Tank tops, jeans with holes in them, flip flops, shorts all made them shake their heads in wonder. Most of them asked me if I knew why people dress like this! They'd like to know. I will entertain responses from you about why you like to dress this way when flying.
I have exactly the same opinion as DeltAirlines (Reply 6) and Mariner have on this subject.
Please feel free to dress anyway you want when flying, but please make sure you wear a TuTu and a Mohawk and dance a pirouette when boarding the aircraft.
Now Jeans can be ok if worn with a nice shirt and shoes. And as long as they are clean and don't have any holes in them!
[Edited 2004-08-16 05:11:03]
Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
Aa61hvy From United States, joined Nov 1999, 13211 posts, RR: 68 Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4696 times:
As I have said in a previous thread. I took AA's, BA's and CX's first around the world a while back. What did I wear? A t-shirt, jeans, and sneakers. The service was great and I did not get a second look from anyone. Clothes don't matter.
AirframeAS From United States, joined Feb 2004, 9973 posts, RR: 32 Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4689 times:
If you are flying non-rev, then follow the pass rules...expecially on DL! (ugh!)
If you bought your own ticket, then wear whatever you want, but at least look nice and SHOWER too! LOL! We dont want a WN repeat of that guy got denied boarding on Airline cuz he stank pretty bad.
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
Iowa744fan From United States, joined Apr 2004, 924 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4664 times:
Yellowball,
My 2 cents: Although you are entitled to wear what you would like, please place a little consideration into what some people have written in the previous posts. It is not something where you need to wear a suit or a tuxedo...but at the same time, I would advise against wearing dirty clothes, ratty looking clothes with holes, etc. What you wear does sometimes have an effect about where you sit (not always, but occasionally). A nice pair of jeans, khakis, a polo, a nice looking t-shirt, a relaxing button down, etc....just not all at once. Personally, I prefer jeans and a nice buttoned down shirt. It is comfortable, I look resepectable, and I think that I present myself well. It does seem kind of pointless after a few hours to have ironed the shirt though! However, what you wear is up to you. By the way, if you ever fly int'l on business or higher, take advantage of the shower and changing room facilities. Nothing feels as good as a shower and a clean change of clothes after a long flight!
As for your flights. As was mentioned, don't expect much on the BOS-IAD flight. Just the standard drink and pretzels. The second flight should have some sort of meal service, but I still wouldn't expect anything too grand. As for F domestic versus C international, the seats are a little similar, but that is about it. In my opinion, the level of service still does not compare. The seat in domestic F does not have a footrest, does not recline substantially, and there will not be a PTV. In addition, the quality of service such as food is not comparable either. Even though they are intended to be similar, I would much rather fly from say SFO-ORD in business of a 3 class 777 than in first on a two class 763 or 777.
Finally, two things that I cannot stand with fellow passengers: tank tops and flip flops. The first is because I think that it looks tacky and when a guy wearing one is sweating profusely, it stinks and I can only imagine having to sit in the seat after he is done. As for the flip flops, my problem is not in the appearance, but rather when someone sits next to you in a pair of well-worn ones, takes them off, and then forces you to have to smell the odor from their feet for an entire flight. I have been tempted to take out a bottle of cologne at times! Anyway, my thoughts...my apologies if anyone takes offense.
JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4648 times:
You paid for the ticket - wear what you want. The days of dressing up to travel up front are long gone, nowadays the only kiepie in business class wearing a tie will be airline staff, you can be sure.
BA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4598 times:
If you paid thousands of dollars for a flight, you are entitled to wear what you want. No question. No one will question you. In my experience, people wear all sorts in business and there never seems to be an issue. I don't see why you should wear uncomfortablle clothes for a long flight. Having said this, I think chinos and a nice polo shirt are pretty comfortable, so that's what I wear for long flights.
JCS From Netherlands, joined Jun 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4581 times:
@BIGBlack
I will send my grandmother.
@topic
You must wear what you want. One nice thing: if this is your dream coming through; make this dream special! In general you 'll feel more confident and become more and better attention with nicer clothes.
@all
Your own clothes are always good. But since an a/c and in special higher classes are a 'small society' during some (many) hours, it is nice to wear good clothes (you're not on the street). It is such a small effort to take a pair of dockers instead of ripped jeans! And with this the whole 'society' onboard looks a lot nicer. Some people will dress 'better' than Dockers anyway. But most important: if it is not comfortable, don't wear it!
N949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1409 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4407 times:
One thing to keep in mind though -- there is always the possibility, however remote it is, that an emergency could occur and you have to evacuate via the escape slides. Some sensible clothing may be in order for such a scenario, lest you suffer injuries from an evacuation.
Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4278 times:
Since when is dressing well...and dressing comfortably mutually exclusive?
Fact is, regardless of your ticket, people respond better to folks that have taken the time to look nice and tailored. Your grooming and appearance says more about your personality than anything else.....
Are you treated better because you are dressed better? Absolutely! (unless you are a rock star or other personality....).
ORDAgent From United States, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1 Reply 25, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4006 times:
When I fly long haul regardless of the class of service I have a couple rules that make for a good flight.
1) COTTON / NATURAL FIBERS! Polyesters/synthetics melt in the heat and in case of emergencies do you want your clothes melting on to you?
2) I wear a pair of cotton pants and a collared shirt. NEVER wear loafers. Your feet will swell on a long haul flight. I have had serious pain going through customs etc since I could barely get my shoes on!
3) On most long haul flights you have two meals. Between the two meals I change clothes. I switch to a cotton jogging suit. It is ALWAYS clean and tidy and not in the least warn or tatty looking. The reason I do this is for the loose waist band. The cotton wicks out moisture and keeps you warm in what often is a cool cabin. After the second meal I switch back to my street clothes. This makes a world of difference. I slept comfortably for most of the flight. My street cloths are not all rumpled and I have clothes on that I have not slept in and sweated through for 8 plus hours. I just feel refreshed and more comfortable after what often can be a brutal flight.
Now as for wearing what you want fine. I just don't feel comfortable sitting next to a slob. I don't want to go to the days in which a tie was obligatory for going out to a restaurant. I just find it amazing how slovenly American culture has become. Its quite sad actually.
26 Greg: Your a travel agent and your traveling attire is based on it's combustibility when the plane catches fire?????? Please, PLEASE tell me how many client
27 Starlionblue: ORDAgent, it's sadly not limited to America.
28 NYCAAer: As a flight attendant, I'll admit it is true that crew members do talk about passengers who are improperly dressed. Tank tops on men (who wants to see
29 Aa777jr: was wearing a rolling rock tshirt, cargo shorts, and birkenstocks, and got upgraded to Biz on a AF 744. I don't think it matters what you wear, as lon
30 Toddy333: i'd say it depends on the airline....when i flew BA club world to boston i wore a polo top and unripped jeans... when i flew virgin upper class hong k
31 Mariner: Toddy333: Since you were wearing flip-flops on the Virgin flight, I hope you at least bothered to wash your feet. cheers mariner
33 Mariner: Toddy333: That's a relief - at least for the other passengers. But I once saw a passenger dressed much like you checking in for a Virgin flight - Uppe
34 MasseyBrown: You can wear what you want, but use common sense. If you dress like a bum, you will be treated like a bum.
35 Toddy333: i wore flight socks as soon as i got on the plane mariner! haha! i wouldve worn something smarter if i was flying on BA or cathay, but i thought hey v
36 ORDAgent: As a seller of a product I advise my clients in any matter they have a question about including safety. I also advise them of state department warning
37 Mariner: Toddy333: "I wore flight socks as as I got on the plane, mariner." So you'd been walking in flip-flops through an airport - not necessarily the cleane
38 Type-rated: Bigblack: I wear what I want, when I want, when I fly based on how I feel. I pay the fare, I ride on my terms Actually when you pay for a ticket you a
39 NWAFA: Crew members do talk about the way passengers look. Trust me I have heard it on many different airlines. There is one thing to being comfy, however wh
40 AeroFan: Username: Aa61hvy Posted Mon Aug 16 2004 09:09:29 UTC+1 and read 1331 times: As I have said in a previous thread. I took AA's, BA's and CX's first aro
41 Buckfifty: We only have a dress code to travel on business if we're on ID travel. In fact, a friend of mine got downgraded to economy because of it (he wore sand
42 Keesje: There is one thing to being comfy, however what ever happened to trying to look decent? In this society of "I will do what ever I want" "I paid for i
43 Rogerthat: Torn and holy jeans are in-style these days. I have seen many men and women wearing such attire on flights and in high fashion environs. Myself, I onl
44 LH526: In my eyes, when you are able to get a business class ticket you should have enough class and style not to show up in denim and base-cap. Nobody will
45 Toddy333: Mariner; "So you'd been walking in flip-flops through an airport - not necessarily the cleanest of places..." - HKK is so clean you could eat your din
46 Comfortzone: It always amazes me to what extent personal appearance is discussed everywhere. What I really agree with is that hygiene is a MUST, sure nobody wants
47 Dalmd88: As my mother taught me EVERYTHING has a dress code. When you go out in public you shouldn't look like a slob unless you are one. Many people could use
48 Sllevin: I always wore a jacket and tie when I jumpseated, back in the day. Even on Southwest (which was my typical commute). But as a revenue passenger, I typ
49 JAGflyer: Unless your going to some place full of vacationers or some extremely hot place, dont wear tanktops and shorts in J or F. I personally wouldn't in any
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