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A Small Scare On A UA Flt IAD-ORD  
User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1250 posts, RR: 18
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7574 times:

It's just a small incident that happened last night on a UA flt flying IAD-ORD. I thought I would share it.

http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040815%2F1253279803.htm&sc=1110

*A side note: Look at when it mentions the aircraft type, I guess UA just started taking deliveries of this new aircraft  Laugh out loud

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User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

The link you provided doesn't work, and when I checked http://cnn.com, there was no story. Do you have another source???


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User currently offlineBustraveler From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7454 times:

The link does work. Try it again.

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7439 times:

Guys,

The link is working with their news and it is everything is okay now. You should not too worry about them.


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2969 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7396 times:

Yeah, that Airbus 8320, that's a really nice bird...
 Big grin



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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

Gee, I was worried there for a moment, I thought for sure it was going to be the Boeing9684 I was scheduled for. Smile But, it was the right thing to do when they emptied the airplane and started over. I guess the events of 9/11 will haunt us forever.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

>>>A side note: Look at when it mentions the aircraft type, I guess UA just started taking deliveries of this new aircraft

Obviously, the folks writing the story had little knowledge of aviation, and essentially just "typed what they heard"...

We once got a call from a station long ago, who said the captain on an inbound flight was reporting a problem with the "80-F". There certainly weren't -that- many rows of seat on the aircraft, so we were all wondering what the -real- problem was. The captain called after landing, and the problem was actually the aircraft's "ADF" (automatic direction finder) instrument....  Big grin


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1606 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7249 times:

Just an off-topic question...

Did this occur at IAD or DCA? Your topic header says IAD, but the article says DCA.




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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7145 times:

if it happened at DCA, then I spotted another problem in the HEADLINE this time:
last time I checked, DCA was in Washington DC and not Virginia. I'd expect that people who think that Airbus flies 8320s (nice plane BTW! I think its the counterpart to Boeings 7E7!) to put Washington DC as most people don't even know that IAD is in Virginia!

Not trying to brag or anything, but it seems that with the exception of a few cities, Miami/Fort Lauderdale has some of the best aviation writers...they have articles almost daily and they never seem to mess up!


User currently offlineKITH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7027 times:

Another case of a middle eastern man getting off a plane, good thing the FBI was there!

AIRPORT NAME: Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport

OFFICIAL AIRPORT DESIGNATOR: DCA

LOCATION: Arlington County, Virginia

That's from the Met/Wash airports website, DCA is in VA also, I can't wait to fly on the new Airbus 8320, is that was NW is replacing their DC-9's with? -Matt in KITH


User currently offlineUA744KSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6978 times:

Yes, DCA is also in Virginia, right across the river from Washington, DC. At one time, what is now Arlington County, VA used to also be part of the District of Columbia, but Virginia took it back before the Civil War. If you look on a map, the borders of Arlington County and Washington, DC form a square. This was George Washington's plan of the city.

Just thought I'd share a historical fact  Smile


User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6962 times:

Yes, indeed, DCA is located on the other side of the Potomac River and entirely in the Commonwealth of Virginia. I live in the District and all we have here is Union Station (WAS)...no airports in the District of Columbia....unless you count the helicopter pads at Bolling Air Force base. The incident happened at DCA (Reagan-National) and not at Dulles (IAD). Looks like the story may have been dictated and whoever transcribed it thought the reporter said "8-320" instead of "A-320." If one doesn't enunciate, mistakes like this happen.

User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1250 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6876 times:

Correction: DCA was the orgin of the incident. Sorry not IAD, although I could have sworn I saw it. Yep, DCA is in Virginia. If your at Gravelly Point and walk down to the Potomac and look across, that is DC. IAD and DCA are both in VA.

User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6836 times:

Thanks for that history tidbit...much appreciated!  Smile

User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6722 times:
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User currently offlineUnited4everDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6569 times:

Funny, the number 8320 is the range of the A310 in Kilometers.

Some people are just aviation stupid. The reporter was obviously told, Airbus A 320, and he/she thought it was the Airbus 8320.


User currently offlineMTChemNerd757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 230 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

being a caucasian male, would the same events have happened if i had "apruptly left the plane?"


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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3673 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6343 times:

being a caucasian male, would the same events have happened if i had "apruptly left the plane?"

I realize you're trying to turn this into a racial issue, but I'm going to answer you seriously: the same events would have happened depending on how you had abruptly left the plane, and what your demeanor was beforehand.

You're not getting the full story here. If this guy was, for example, a business class passenger who also happened to be the VP of a well-known company in the financial sector, and he "abruptly left the plane" because of an emergency meeting he'd just been informed of being held by the board of directors of his company, and he explained this properly to the flight crew, I guarantee no further action would have been taken regardless of the man's race or nationality.

Conversely, if you, as a white male, got on the plane with a small briefcase held close to your chest, sweating buckets, sat in your seat and five minutes later abruptly left the plane without your briefcase, I would expect and hope the plane would be evacuated. Even if you simply opened and closed your briefcase and then hurriedly exited the plane, I would think there'd be cause for worry.

Notwithstanding the fictional account in the movie "Airport", there actually was a 707 that was blown up in an insurance scam over I believe Missouri in the 1960's or 70's - most pilots even today would know of this incident, so you're not off the hook simply because you're a white male. Flight crews are trained to a certain extent to watch behavior and act accordingly, regardless of race or nationality.

Edit: in case you're interested, the accident report of the above mentioned crash: http://www.avsaf.org/reports/US_reports/1960/1962.05.22_ContinentalAirlines_Boeing707-124.pdf


[Edited 2004-08-16 09:07:16]


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User currently offlineBIGBlack From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6287 times:

I am an African-American/Multi-Racial pax. I don't give a shit what race you are. If you act like a freak on the plane I am riding on, imma kick your ass, for safetys sake.


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User currently offlineXwizard From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5282 times:

On the cnn.netscape story in the same vein they've at least got the "correct" model for the Airbus (320 and not 8320)....

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040815%2F2028303639.htm&sc=1110&photoid=20040427SAW103

Interestingly though, the picture at the top of the story shows three US Airways aeroplanes!

Another one to add to the earlier thread "Non-aviation Journalist Aviation Blunders:9-p


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