BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2017 times:
Scottysair, What are you trying to say. I know you speak ASL, but can you try to reword it a little bit?
Who is the other person? Parker is gone. Colleen Barrett is still there if that is who you mean, and Herb is still the Big Boss for the board of directors.
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
He's saying that this new guy will bring change to WN but that he'll stick with the airline for many years to come.
Lono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
New guy in the hot seat..... wonder if he will flame out like Parker
NWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1919 times:
Interesting reading..to me it sounds like this guy thinks the employees should NOT feel like they deserve the money....it is about money. I think its great that the FA's got what they deserve, its about respect, and this guy is trying to make the employees not have any!
THANK YOU FOR FLYING NORTHWEST AIRLINES, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS!
Scottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6358 posts, RR: 34 Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
NWAFA opines,
"Interesting reading..to me it sounds like this guy thinks the employees should NOT feel like they deserve the money....it is about money. I think its great that the FA's got what they deserve, its about respect, and this guy is trying to make the employees not have any!"
So, by your reasoning, Southwest's executives aren't "respected" by the company since they generally make less than their peers at other airlines -- in spite of having been the most profitable airline in the industry for the past three years. If anyone deserves more pay at LUV, it's their finance guys, since they're the ones who have executed their successful hedging strategy.
I'm sure that Southwest's management had no respect for their employees when they chose not to lay anyone off after 9/11.
The problem is that high productivity can only go so far in terms of making a company competitive. What happens when another airline with much cheaper labor, but less productivity, takes the fight to Southwest? Most customers don't really care about airline labor disputes or how much the employees get paid. Management at Southwest is happy to pay the employees what the company can afford -- but a focus on industry-leading contracts will put the airline on the same path as US Airways, United, Delta, American, etc.
737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 48 Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1822 times:
NWAFA,
I don't know anyone here who thinks that Mr. Kelly doesn't respect his employees. And, no, it is not always about the money. Sometimes it is about security. Soon, we SWA mechanics will vote on a contract extension offered by the company. Some tend to think that we might be able to get more through the negotiation process when our current contract expires. But then there are those who see the larger picture. They believe that there is no sense in going through a long, protracted negotiation process in order to guarantee an industry leading contract at the expense of employee morale and job security, especially in these uncertain times.
JayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1773 times:
Very good reply 737doctor. Obviously, you are in a union and I respect that. I have just never understood the union mentality at times and no offense to you whatsoever.
Just like the pilots union over at DL. Those idiots are only going to offer a 9% wage reduction and think it is going to save their jobs? What a joke !! They (those pilots) need to come down off their high horse and "godly" attitude if they expect to keep their jobs with DL. What if DL declares bankruptcy? Those contracts, if I am correct, go pretty much completely out the window, don't they? I would rather sacrifice 30% of my pay in order to save the company than act like I've got a bigger set of balls than management and only offer up a 9% wage reduction.
No offense to DL employee's, but if that is the attitude prevailing for your entire airline, I hope you do file for bankruptcy !! See how the pilots will like filing for unemployment, or having to get another job instead of flying an airliner !! I have no sympathy for the hard-line (STUPID) mentality that many unions seem to have. It is always "Us against Them". In those situations, no one ever really wins.
Granted, your F/A's got a good contract but some bad publicity came out of it also..............
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1734 times:
Too bad I haven't gotten my BA yet....I would have put in for the job.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Swatpamike From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 581 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1665 times:
Hello everyone
I believe that Kelly is right.
We have to realize that to stay profitable, for the long term, we have to keep costs down. I for one don't want to be the best paid ramp agent in the industry if it means that my job security could be at stake. Would I like to make more money? Sure, who wouldn't. But I also want to work for Southwest for the rest of my life and never have to worry about whether when I show up for work the doors will be locked. (Like my uncle did when he worked for Eastern and Pan Am) Then again maybe I am crazy, I just LUV what I do.
Swardu From United States of America, joined May 2004, 79 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
I am in agreement with "Swatpamike". As a CSA, we also have an industry setting contract, but I too have been the Eastern Airlines route. Spent 8 wonderful years with that storied airline only to find the unemployment line far less appealing and definately not the $15.00/hour I was making as an agent.
I LUV working for WN and yes for the most part they treat us like human beings...not an employee number like others do, and the benefits that exist here are far better than most other companies can or could offer....not just speaking of airlines. In regards to how the employees think of WN....during 9/11, the employees ALL were paid their scheduled hours that the industry was shut down. They didn't have to, but they did in spite of losing $50,000,000 or more per day not flying. In return for the company's respect, we showed our respect by 1/3 of the employees offering back their pay to make up the difference in the company's bottom line. Show me another company that commands that kind of mutual repsect.
737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 48 Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1526 times:
Swardu makes a good point about employees giving back a portion of their pay after 9/11, something often overlooked. I just wanted to reiterate that point. That is the definition of respect.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1512 times:
Interesting reading..to me it sounds like this guy thinks the employees should NOT feel like they deserve the money....it is about money. I think its great that the FA's got what they deserve, its about respect, and this guy is trying to make the employees not have any!
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Who is the other person? Parker is gone. Colleen Barrett is still there if that is who you mean, and Herb is still the Big Boss for the board of directors.
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