BFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 734 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
Ive just returned from a weekend in England, having flown BA from BHD to MAN and back. My question is this - the outward flight on Dash 8 G-BRYW was lovely, with a nice quiet cabin that looked very '777' style (i.e. curvy!) Then coming back today, we were on G-BRYI which seemed very old and, more importantly, noisy! It was like sitting on a lawnmower for an hour. Was this due to sitting near the front as opposed to the back on the outward journey? Or are the newer aircraft in fact just noisier?
And of course the service was fabulous. You poor Americans should boycott flying until you can once again have a bar service, sandwiches AND tea/coffee on a 45 minute flight!
LimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1585 times:
Probably G-BRYW was a newer Q series model and the other was the older type. But basically, all Dash 8's are the same. Technically speaking, it would be louder sitting near the engines than at the front or back. Only a few things differ from the older serious -300 for example to the Q300's. Also, looking at photos of G-BRYI here, she has been around since 1993 or before. As as said about, the "Q" stands for quiet.
You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2572 posts, RR: 59 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
No - they're all the same, and you've got the 2 main differences!
My last 2 BA Dash8 flights were on G-BRYJ and G-BRYV, and I noticed the same things that you did.
G-BRYI/J are the last remaining standard Dash8s in the BACX fleet, with the older cabin design but more importantly they don't have NVS (Noise and Vibration Supression)
The NVS system consists of a series of microphones and speakers throughout the cabin, the microphones detect noise, it is analysed by a computer which transmits an out-of-phase signal via the speakers - this has the effect of damping out both noise and vibration.
When you've flown both NVS and non-NVS aircraft close together it's very noticeable, isn't it?
NVS was made standard in 1996, so the rest of the BACX fleet have it, they even registered a couple of aircraft G-NVS_ to acknowledge it...
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1518 times:
BFS
For exactly the reason you mentioned, I always plum for seat 3D on my flights from MAN-BHD when going home to see the family. The Dash-8s are beautiful looking and very comfortable aircraft to fly on - and make a change from the 737s everyone else flies on similar routes (namely LPL-BFS and MAN-BFS)
Mark
7LBAC111
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FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1965 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1502 times:
As things stand those Dash 8s will have left the BA CitiExpress fleet for the start of the summer 2005 timetable, when BA CitiExpress has committed itself to being a jet operation only. So enjoy them while you can.
F4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1452 times:
its funny that flybe a former franchise partner is going for the new dash 8s while BA is now moving away from them.
I think that maybe BA might excercise some of its erj options. I would hope that they would procure the new 170 or 190 for regional routes. I think it would look great in their colours as well
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1418 times:
The ERJs are a suitable replacement however.
Yes, but these may cost more to operate. Turboprops are the most efficient type, after all, and the speed penalty is not really felt until the flight is longer than 1 hour.
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FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1965 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
The problem is that BA is due to retire the Dash 8s in 9 months time yet no replacement aircraft are forthcoming. Or is BA looking at cascading aircraft, i.e. A321s entering service at LHR see some A319s move to LGW with 737-500s moving back to MAN/BHX? Either that, or further route cuts look likely to be on the cards for BA CitiExpress.
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