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BA Dash 8s - All The Same?  
User currently offlineBFS From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 738 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Ive just returned from a weekend in England, having flown BA from BHD to MAN and back. My question is this - the outward flight on Dash 8 G-BRYW was lovely, with a nice quiet cabin that looked very '777' style (i.e. curvy!) Then coming back today, we were on G-BRYI which seemed very old and, more importantly, noisy! It was like sitting on a lawnmower for an hour. Was this due to sitting near the front as opposed to the back on the outward journey? Or are the newer aircraft in fact just noisier?

And of course the service was fabulous. You poor Americans should boycott flying until you can once again have a bar service, sandwiches AND tea/coffee on a 45 minute flight!

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User currently offlineFlyboy1980 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2003, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Perhaps one was an older model -300 and the other a newer Q300.

I think they introduced the noise control thing on later ones, the Q is for Quiet  Smile


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 783 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Probably G-BRYW was a newer Q series model and the other was the older type. But basically, all Dash 8's are the same. Technically speaking, it would be louder sitting near the engines than at the front or back. Only a few things differ from the older serious -300 for example to the Q300's. Also, looking at photos of G-BRYI here, she has been around since 1993 or before. As as said about, the "Q" stands for quiet.


You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2282 times:
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No - they're all the same, and you've got the 2 main differences!

My last 2 BA Dash8 flights were on G-BRYJ and G-BRYV, and I noticed the same things that you did.

G-BRYI/J are the last remaining standard Dash8s in the BACX fleet, with the older cabin design but more importantly they don't have NVS (Noise and Vibration Supression)

The NVS system consists of a series of microphones and speakers throughout the cabin, the microphones detect noise, it is analysed by a computer which transmits an out-of-phase signal via the speakers - this has the effect of damping out both noise and vibration.

When you've flown both NVS and non-NVS aircraft close together it's very noticeable, isn't it?

NVS was made standard in 1996, so the rest of the BACX fleet have it, they even registered a couple of aircraft G-NVS_ to acknowledge it...

More info on NVS

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2222 times:

BFS

For exactly the reason you mentioned, I always plum for seat 3D on my flights from MAN-BHD when going home to see the family. The Dash-8s are beautiful looking and very comfortable aircraft to fly on - and make a change from the 737s everyone else flies on similar routes (namely LPL-BFS and MAN-BFS)

Mark
7LBAC111



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2206 times:

As things stand those Dash 8s will have left the BA CitiExpress fleet for the start of the summer 2005 timetable, when BA CitiExpress has committed itself to being a jet operation only. So enjoy them while you can.


Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2202 times:

Really? Didn't know that at all.
The ERJs are a suitable replacement however.



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineF4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

its funny that flybe a former franchise partner is going for the new dash 8s while BA is now moving away from them.

I think that maybe BA might excercise some of its erj options. I would hope that they would procure the new 170 or 190 for regional routes. I think it would look great in their colours as well


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Re: flybe a former franchise partner

Flybe (formerly British European formerly Jersey European) was never a BA franchise.


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

I don;t ever recall flyBE (or British European or Jersey European) ever being a BA franchise partner. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16991 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

The ERJs are a suitable replacement however.

Yes, but these may cost more to operate. Turboprops are the most efficient type, after all, and the speed penalty is not really felt until the flight is longer than 1 hour.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineF4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

7LBAC111 sorry u are correct. Although I see Flybe did franchise with air france.

User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

The problem is that BA is due to retire the Dash 8s in 9 months time yet no replacement aircraft are forthcoming. Or is BA looking at cascading aircraft, i.e. A321s entering service at LHR see some A319s move to LGW with 737-500s moving back to MAN/BHX? Either that, or further route cuts look likely to be on the cards for BA CitiExpress.


Let's Go British Caledonian!
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