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Braves SAN Charter Goes To NAS North Island?  
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3086 times:

Heard something interesting on TBS' coverage of the Braves/Padres game last night:

Braves' Marcus Giles was at the plate, and the announcers were mentioning his being from San Diego, etc, etc. Then they pipe in with something to the effect of, "all the while up to the Braves' charter flight landing at the NAS North Island at 5 AM, Giles was talking up San Diego".

I'm assuming that the curfew laws at SAN precluded them from landing at Lindbergh, but is that the norm?: when a charter can't land at SAN because of the curfew, do they then, as a rule, go to the NAS?


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Also, do the Braves charter on DL?

Tom at MSY


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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3060 times:

A Delta 757-200 did indeed fly from Atlanta to NAS North Island two nights ago. Seems like too much of a coincidence to not be the Braves charter, although I do remember some other private jet (a 727) arriving in SAN from Marrieta, Georgia sometime in the same 24-hour time period. Is Marrieta close to Atlanta?

Sports teams have often flown to NAS North Island in lieu of SAN--including during the 2003 Super Bowl, I believe.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3042 times:

Hey Aaron:

Marietta is a northern suburb of Atlanta. Lockheed has a decent sized operation there. Perhaps the 727 was the Braves' brass?!

Thanks for confirming my NAS thoughts.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineDAL7001 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 3019 times:

It was DL. I put the plane at the gate in ATL at around 0330 Monday.


KATL
User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

I'm assuming that the curfew laws at SAN precluded them from landing at Lindbergh, but is that the norm?

The curfew at SAN doesn't apply to landings. The only time landings are not permittted is when there is night time construction or repair work and it's a temporary restriction. HP 730 is a 0108 arrival and the Fed Ex, Airborne and UPS heavies all usually come in between 0400-0600.

The airport curfew restricts takeoffs only. Stage 3 a/c are limited to departing between 0630-2330 local while lifeguard, emergency flights, or flights for military necessity are exempt and can depart as needed any time of day.




User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

They go to NAS because it a cheaper bus ride to the stadium. NAS in San Diego is located closer to the stadium than Lindbergh. This is the same reason why teams use BFI in Seattle, BUR in Los Angeles, HOU in Houston and there's one in Montreal, but I can't think of it right now.


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User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

The distance from SAN to Petco Park is only 3.3 miles, while the distance going over the Coronado bridge and exiting the I-5 to downtown from NAS North Island to Petco is just over 6 miles. Why would North Island be cheaper? Doesn't make much sense. There has to be some other reasons involved. When I worked a charter at N.I., the a/c wanted to leave at 3am after dropping pax and couldn't do so at SAN, so that might be a contributing factor in landing N.I. instead of SAN for some charters.

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

They go to NAS because it a cheaper bus ride to the stadium

I believe Lindbergh is much closer to Petco Park than is the NAS. Petco is on the southern side of downtown San Diego, which would put it only about 3 miles from Lindbergh, while after landing at the NAS, one would have to cross Coronado, plus the Coronado Bridge, then come up East Harbor to Petco, which is at the corner of East Harbor and 7th Avenue.

http://www.mapblast.com/(1oqjn445wdaf3z450to1wa55)/map.aspx?L=USA&C=32.71568%2c-117.16232&A=172.00000&P=|7217|&TI=San+Diego%2c+California%2c+United+States

Tom at MSY

edited to add: Avi8trxx beat me to the punch, I was Mapblasting at the same time!

[Edited 2004-08-17 20:02:12]


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User currently offlineRadelow From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Could be there isn't a space to actually PARK the plane at SAN. The majority of aircraft parking areas are on the north side of the runway. Those get used by Hawaiian Airlines overnight along with a AA and DL plane (I think). SAN doesn't have many gates... Just a theory...

Mark


User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

I'm thinking it's a security thing, no crowds of autograph hounds around. Easier to shuttle them to and from the ballpark.

User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2837 times:
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The only thing a 727 is going to fit on in Marietta is Dobbins Air Reserve Base .... so it was probably some kind of military transport (I see a white 727 in and out of Dobbins quite frequently) or maybe US Dept of Justice.

Delta sponsors all of the major sports teams in Atlanta, so it is not surprising they'd have a Delta charter flight.

- litz


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Delta sponsors all of the major sports teams in Atlanta, so it is not surprising they'd have a Delta charter flight.

The irony in that is that they only do the charters for the Braves, Falcons, Georgia Tech, and the University of Georgia; the Hawks and Thrashers don't use Delta for their charters. Last season, they both used Midwest Airlines(after using Pace Airlines for a number of years); I haven't heard if they will be using them again this season.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16867 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Perhaps the Team's hotel was on Coronado Island, the Marriott or the Hotel Coronado?..


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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

AHHH OK, I got it. I took a photo of it at 1:54am into NZY a couple days ago. I thought it was a troop charter, as NZY gets a lot of those.

What is so damn funny is that I saw 3 aircraft land at SAN while I was out there... lol.. I dont think there is a curfew for landings.


It was probably due to the fact that its so much easier to fly thru NZY. When the Superbowl was in San Diego, NZY took a lot of the traffic, including a couple 747's and 777.




[Edited 2004-08-18 08:27:39]

User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

It's sort of been answered, but here's the reason...

True, there's no curfew for arrivals into SAN, but remember, the plane, DL presumed, had to depart back to ATL, correct? Hence, the departure curfew is the reason it operated into NZY.

Jeffrey



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User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

had to depart back to ATL.

I believe your theory, but, he was outbound to LAX.. lol  Big grin


User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

Didn't realize the plane went up to LAX, but if as DAL7001 said that he parked the plane at 0355, the departure curfew theory remains!

Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Yep, it sure does.. He arrived into NZY at roughly 1:54am PDT.



User currently offlineRareBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Litz,

The white 727's you see at Dobbins are indeed DOJ prisoner transfer aircraft. They bus the prisoners from the Federal Pen in SE Atlanta to Dobbins because security is better there.

I believe the aircraft assembly building at Lockheed in Marietta is second only in size to the Boeing building in Everett, WA. The C-5's were assembled in this building, except for the horizontal stabilizer. They had a separate, smaller, but taller building for that purpose. We called the world's largest whorehouse, because that's where the C-5 went to get it's tail.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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