CAL From United States, joined Mar 2004, 481 posts, RR: 10 Posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7296 times:
Well I haven't heard that much about the Sky Team membership lately.
I was wondering when the official date for CO, NW and KL to become members is? Will there be a ceremony or something?
Also I heard that SU was going to be joining, any info???
What are the requirements to get into the Sky Team membership and do the other members have to approve it or something, Thanks for all the help.
Sky Team Members:
Soon to be??
SafetyDude From United States, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7239 times:
The last heard, NW and/or CO will join in October. I remember reading that Aeroflot has been deferred a bit, possibly to 2005 but I am not sure of the date. I have not heard anything about KLM, but I would imagine that it would around the same time as NWA.
Kenya will also become a member, although a second-tier one.
Burnsie28 From United States, joined Aug 2004, 6248 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7228 times:
The date is September 15 for NW, and I believe CO is the same day. Dont be surprised to see SkyTeam logos around NW as according to passages they are already beginning to add signiage around NW.
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Skyteam10001 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7197 times:
RCS763 AFAIK I have never seen any official annoucement confirming that NW and CO would get in skyteam on 9/15. Still waiting on that. Discussed to death maybe but still no official word
SafetyDude From United States, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7162 times:
I assume Kenya will become an "associate Member" what they are calling it?
Could you try me again?
Some say that Kenya will be a full member, although others - including the more reliable ones - say that it will be an associate member/second-tier.
I have never seen any official annoucement confirming that NW and CO would get in skyteam on 9/15. Still waiting on that.
You will probably not hear anything until the 15th. My guess is that they will announced they are joining on the 15.
In other news, here in New York, Delta has begun what appears to be a new ad-campaign where the ads simply and only say "Delta" and have a very large SkyTeam-logo next to it - perhaps a reminder to the city with the most non-stop destinations that with all of the airlines joining, they too are a member?
BA From United States, joined May 2000, 10719 posts, RR: 72 Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7128 times:
After me and a few of the Lebanese members on these forums met with MEA's CEO Mohammad El-Hout, he confirmed that MEA will become an associate SkyTeam member next year.
Regards
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
CAL From United States, joined Mar 2004, 481 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7071 times:
I am real surprised that with all of the Aviation connoisseurs that we have here at Airliners.net that's all the information you guys have.
No one in the loop have any info???
CAL........Continental Airlines....... Work Hard, Fly Right
NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7014 times:
The "associate membership" thing is kinda new. The only thing I've heard is they wont be full members...Think of them more as code share partners with most if not all ST members.
As far as the full details as to what the differences are, I do not know yet.
BA From United States, joined May 2000, 10719 posts, RR: 72 Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7004 times:
Mohammad El-Hout explained to us what an associate member is.
Basically they get the benefits that full members have such as code-share agreements within the alliance, frequent flyer agreements, lounge access, the SkyTeam marketting, and even the logo.
What associate members lack is they do not have voting rights within the alliance and don't have much of a say in membership approvals among other things.
Regards
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
Skyteam10001 From United States, joined Jun 2004, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6954 times:
I understand. So I won't expect to hear/read anything official regarding NW, CO and KL's entry in Skyteam before 9/15. I just wanted to be 100% sure before purchasing an EWR-GIG ticket on CO for november... guess what ? I'll have to wait
MauriceB From Aruba, joined Aug 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 39 Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6662 times:
Any news as to whether any South American carrier will join the team??
ummmm Aeromexico already is in the Sky Team
Also I can tell you hwo will be the next SkyTeam member; AVIANCA!!!! Lte's hope it happens!.......
it won't get accepted in the Sky team, to bad shape and i guess to small.... also since CO owns a bit? (not for sure about that one) i guess the will join the team a bit
greetz maurice
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Fokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6653 times:
Why not??? Has codeshare with DL, and AF. This are links that can be accepted in the alliance, AV is not small, has not a very good financial times, but better times will come. Also they have strongly Colombian market, also the better timetables of all south American region, and of course, their hub is in the point of development of the Andean region.
Fokker50 From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 359 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6622 times:
Well..... for my single point of vew, AM can cover all central american routes, and Av can cover all s.American routes. They would be a nice partnership.
CAL From United States, joined Mar 2004, 481 posts, RR: 10 Reply 25, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6568 times:
Last I checked AM was not in South America, and if you want to connect pax with them they only fly to Chile, Brazil, and Peru. I believe that if anyone down south is to become a member soon it would be COpa. With their connection with Continental. What do you all think about that?
CAL........Continental Airlines....... Work Hard, Fly Right
26 Cuautli: My dear friends, for your information México is not in South America, México is in North America!!!
27 Dancerrada: Hi everyone!! It´s my pleasure to share with you guys this discussions for the first time. Yes, first time writer!! There's one more company which wi
28 L410Turbolet: SkyTeam needs one more SE Asian carrier badly, since KE's coverage of Far East other than China and Japan is nothing special. Same goes for South Amer
29 SafetyDude: I understand. So I won't expect to hear/read anything official regarding NW, CO and KL's entry in Skyteam before 9/15. I just wanted to be 100% sure b
30 Skyteam10001: thanks Will - but I am F+ Rouge on AF with almost 200K miles in my account so I'd rather keep on accruing miles with AF cheers
31 Gitano: CO will join Sept 15. Many Departments at CO are already getting trained on SkyTeam procedures.
32 NonRevKing: No Avianca No Air Europa...lol How do you people come up with this stuff? B
33 MauriceB: concordeboy wrote: Maurice B: Any news as to whether any South American carrier will join the team?? ummmm Aeromexico already is in the Sky Team Conco
34 EddieDude: Maurice, Mexico is not in South America. And its presence in South America is very meager (only flies to SCL, GRU and LIM and not even on a daily basi
35 Dalfannyc: When will there be skyteam planes with skyteam livery, such as the star alliance planes with the individual airline logo on it???
36 Ghost77: Last I checked AM was not in South America, and if you want to connect pax with them they only fly to Chile, Brazil, and Peru. I believe that if anyon
37 Dancerrada: Hi again, NonRevKing, I just read the article and that's why I considered I could say Air Europa will join Sky Team Alliance on Nov 04. For my first w
38 Aer: I had heard a rumor that Air Europa (UX) was a candidate for the team.
39 Kim777fan: What about JM? The fleet is pretty modern with several US destinations and connections to a wide variety of Caribbean destinations. Already has extens
41 NonRevKing: Air Europe still isn't joining sky team. That link provides no proof to back up this claim. No invitation = Not joining. It's a simple as that. B
42 B4real: Looks like China Southern to join as well: From: http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040822/airlines_china_southern_1.html China Southern aims to join global airl
43 Dancerrada: NonRevKing, Whatever. You're free to believe press or not. Just for the ones who may give some credibility to press, I´d like you to notice it is not
44 EddieDude: Dan, welcome to the forum. I look forward to reading your comments and opinions throughout the forum. By the way, do you know if UX and AM plan to exp
45 Kim777fan: How does China Southern's route structure compare with air China as far as extending Sky Teams reach in Asia? Air China was once listed as a code-shar
46 GlobeTrekker: Kim777fan, I was wondering the same thing........... Anybody knows?
47 United Airline: Isn't Malaysia Airlines joining?????? When?
48 GlobeTrekker: I've heard the rumours too, but nothing is official yet about MH joining.
49 Bobnwa: Kim777fan, Northwest and Air China ended relationship quite a while back. GlobeTrekker, Have you heard rumors anywhere but on this board when members
50 SafetyDude: How does China Southern's route structure compare with air China as far as extending Sky Teams reach in Asia? ConcordeBoy answered your question in th
51 SafetyDude: Are there any rumors about EK joining an alliance, especially SkyTeam? QR would presumbably go into Star, so EK would probably not be of much "help" t
52 Dancerrada: HI, everyone Eddie, thanks for the nice welcome!! Trying to answer your question, I haven´t found any offcicial info about UX and AM expanding their
53 KEno: Go easy on UX everyone Anything is possible. Remember when most people were surprised to hear Blue1 would be joining Star together with South African
54 GlobeTrekker: -Bobnwa, Well of course I read some of the rumours on this site, but I've also been hearing them on the job, but that's it...just rumours. GT
55 Aer: I had heard someting about Air Europa, but I don't think that is gonna pull through
56 RCS763av: Av should join SKT after C11, and CM shouldnt because: 1. AV has strong links with two of the founders (DL, AF) and links with CO and indirectly with
57 RCS763av: EddieDude: AV´s network can be lookes at www.avianca.com, it is way more served and has more seats available than CM´s.[Edited 2004-08-24 20:13:02]
58 SCRAMJET: SafetyDude, Air China, of The People's Republic of China, is NOT a Delta partner. China Airlines, of Taiwan, Republic of China, is. China Southern, of
59 CAL: I was just thinking that many people think that Copa will enter into Sky Team because its like a child of Continental. Its like the Micronesia Divisio
60 SafetyDude: Air China, of The People's Republic of China, is NOT a Delta partner. China Airlines, of Taiwan, Republic of China, is. You are correct, my mistake. T
61 NonRevKing: Air Europa won't be joining either... Dancerrada, email me and I'll tell you how I know. No Avianca, no Malaysia, no Copa. I ask if any of you can pro
63 GlobeTrekker: NonRevKing is right though....rumors are just that..rumors and for some people wishfull thinking. Just because some airline code-shares with another o
64 RCS763av: Well, no invitations have been forwrded, but they are potential members, we aer not saying they are gonna join...
65 Dancerrada: Well, actually I was, but I am considering to play retreat...
66 CAL: Well so far everyone has said that NW, KL, and CO will join the 15th. There is another thread saying that it will be on the 13th with a celebration in
67 MEA330: Hello NonRevKing, Your attempts to regulate discussions about Skyteam future members are not well placed. This is an internet discussion forum and eve
68 Acvitale: Do not sweat NonRevKing he is not that connected at DL and has been wrong on a number of issues. When some of us called Song and DFW and Shuttle Chang
69 Adriaticus: Drawing from my SkyMiles (DL) acct, I tried to get a reward ticket from supposedly future SkyTeam members KL or CO for a MEX-LON-MEX trip (from any Lo
70 CAL: Adriaticus, The systems will not let you do anything with the future partners until they are officially partners, do not expect anything different. Fr
71 Adriaticus: Thanks, CAL... I assumed systems were ready to program post-Sept 13 reservations. Will re-check after that day. (I am assuming the minute CO, KL and N
72 L410Turbolet: Adriaticus, I wouldn't bet on it but introduction of winter schedule (Nov 1) seems to me as more likely, since almost anything in airline business see
73 CAL: What we have heard here on the CO side is that as soon as they say go we are ready and things should be all set up. There has been Sky Team advisory p
74 Delta-flyer: Drawing from my SkyMiles (DL) acct, I tried to get a reward ticket from supposedly future SkyTeam members KL or CO .... You can book your award travel
75 Ciro: I would love to see Japan Airlines joining SkyTeam. If I am not wrong, it is already code-sharing with Korean Air. Would the Japanese anti-trust commi
76 EddieDude: They also codeshare with AM on the MEX-YVR and YVR-MEX legs of the NRT-YVR-MEX-YVR-NRT service. However, I doubt JL will join SkyTeam. As a matter of
77 RCS763av: If JL joins an alliance, it would surely be OneWorld. They have extensive agreements with AA, BA and CX and have said in the past they had intentions
78 GlobeTrekker: On the KLM side of things, systems are also ready to go when we get word. Here in Aruba we of KLM Ground Services will start doing the handling of DL
79 NonRevKing: Do not sweat NonRevKing he is not that connected at DL and has been wrong on a number of issues. Aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha! When some of us called
80 Afay1: When SU joins, how will we tell Delta and Aeroflot's planes apart as they have almost the same livery (and sometimes service .
81 Kim777fan: On one, the crew will speak Russian, and on the other, the crew will speak English, that's how.
82 Adriaticus: Delta-flyer, thanks!! . I'll try booking directly with CO, and see what happens. Cheers, __Ad.
83 RCS763av: Wow...comparing IranAir and Casino Express with Avianca and Air Europa...please have some respect for the oldest airline in the americas, and a good c
84 Kim777fan: What's wrong with suggesting JetBlue?? Bet you their service is at least comparable to Aeroflot, if it doesn't already exceed it.
85 Ciro: RCS763av, the fact that JAL has ties with AA, BA and CX does not mean that much since we know that any sort of alliance among airlines outside a forma
86 Fokker50: Ciro: Ok, this doesn't menas that, but, I read in a web page, that JAL, and SWISS would have the options to join ONEworld, also JL, had an invitation
87 CAL: CO Inflight Staff , are being informed that SkyTeam Pins will be distributed and MUST be worn, Things are starting to move quickly at Continental. Als
88 RCS763av: What a nice alliance is Skyteam becoming. Im very happy because i´m a member of Delta SkyMiles.
89 TBCITDG: Should the un thinkable happen and Alitalia where to fold, would that leave a void in the European network?? Would another airline take its place??
90 Jafa: CAL, same thing is happening here at NWA. We had our review of ground, inflight, and frequent flyer programs. All was fine and we will be joining on S
91 CAL: Well only about 10 days to go!!! Wondering if anyone has any details about the planned Celebrations in NYC. Or anywhere else for that matter?
92 AF Cabin Crew: Ia Orana All ! I too am looking forward to welcome these 3 fantastic airlines and their families in SkyTEAM ! Welcome to KLM, NWA and Continental Airl
93 GlobeTrekker: Well we did receive the SkyTeam pins yesterday......we cannot wear them untill the 15th though. GlobeTrekker
94 Triley1057: Why did Aeromexico drop a flight into IAH if CO is joining on the 15th? I would think that they would add a flight rather than dropping one.
95 EddieDude: Probably just to reassign the airplane to another route where they need additional capacity. AM has several daily flights to IAH from MEX and now it w
96 SafetyDude: When SU joins, how will we tell Delta and Aeroflot's planes apart as they have almost the same livery (and sometimes service They are not really that
97 L410Turbolet: When SU joins, how will we tell Delta and Aeroflot's planes apart as they have almost the same livery (and sometimes service. I presume all of DL's an
98 Afay1: Yes, but if one assumes, you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me." Anyway, it was kind of a joke, although seriously the Deltaflot livery looks very simi
100 Javomd88: WELCOME FUTURE SKYTEAM MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE AT AEROMEXICO ARE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE! WE ALREADY ARE A GREAT ALLIANCE!!!!!NO
101 GlobeTrekker: Well thank you very much Javomd88. I can't wait either!!!! GlobeTrekker (KLM)
102 L410Turbolet: I was at the PRG airport yesterday and was surprised to see that KLM and CSA Czech Airlines PRG-AMS flights already carry NW/CO flight numbers as well
103 Kim777fan: Interesting, but NW's website still does not show AF, OK, AM, or KE as partner airlines as of yet. Nor have they announced any code sharing agreements
104 CAL: No official announcement or sinage will be displayed until September 15th. But I guarantee that on the 15th all the airlines will have all the logos u
105 L410Turbolet: Interesting, but NW's website still does not show AF, OK, AM, or KE as partner airlines as of yet. Nor have they announced any code sharing agreements
106 Mdutch: Actually KLM has an extensive codeshare agreement with CO for some time now. Well before Skyteam. The codeshares only apply to flights connecting to
108 Javomd88: Thanks Globe trekker, 4 more days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bye JAVO737NG.
109 GlobeTrekker: 3 more days people!!!!! GlobeTrekker
110 RCS763av: Im still waiting for AV to be invited...
111 FFlyer: Yesterday, 9/11 the welcoming announcement on a NW flight from MSP to ATL: "...welcome on board flight....Northwest Airlines, a member of the Skyteam
112 Jano: NW/KL Electronic timetable updated. It contains all SkyTeams flights now. http://www.nwa.com/travel/timetable/
113 Premobrimo: I expect major updates to all the airline's websites. I am guessing that skyteam.com will have a complete make-over. I have been waiting for NW to off
114 Whiskeyhotel: Flew BNA-IAH on CO flight 303 today, as we landed, the FA thanked us for flying on behalf of CO and its Skyteam partner airlines...
115 Premobrimo: We flew from IND-MSP on NW and they welcomed us and named all the airlines in the SkyTeam alliance.
116 GlobeTrekker: Well it's official....KLM, Northwest Airlines and Continental Airlines are members of SkyTeam. Passengers can enjoy the benefits starting on the 15th.
117 CAL: CONTINENTAL EMPLOYEE BULLETIN NO. 9 CO JOINS SKYTEAM ALLIANCE CO announced Monday that it has joined SkyTeam, the world's fastest-growing alliance, of
119 NonRevKing: On behalf of Delta, I'd like to welcome my friends from Continental, Northwest, and KLM. It will be fun working with you all! B
120 Aking8488: Does anyone know if arrangements such as this, with other alliances, have allowed pax's to "pool" FF miles from two member accounts (e.g. NW and KE)?
121 GlobeTrekker: Thank you for the welcome NonRevKing. I am very excited to work with you all too! We'll be handling Delta's flights as of October 1st here in AUA. Als
122 Jjjm: I´m waiting for CM to join Skyteam, Theyr eill definetly make a good couple with AM. We would be able to see AM code sharing flights to PTY-BOG-CTG-M
123 GlobeTrekker: The Skyteam logo now appears on the KLM website. Check it out: http://www.klm.com/nl_en/index.jsp Today is also the day that KLM starts flying to ATL
124 HeyMach: Just received the following e-mail from Continental in my inbox: Continental Airlines is now a proud member of SkyTeam, the global alliance that gives
125 GlobeTrekker: Well CO has finally added the SkyTeam logo on their website and the SkyTeam website has also been updated and slightly renewed. http://www.continental
126 Richardw: Does this mean that the VS and CO codeshare will end fairly soon? What about Spain's Air Europa, which has links with KL and CO, will they be invited
127 EddieDude: It has links with AM too but I don't think it will join since it doesn't really offer much to the alliance. It might be nice, though, but I don't see
128 Lfutia: if anyone hasnt checked out the skyteam site, they now have it updated so for the dutchman and I.... zijn heb het website in Nederlands
129 NonRevKing: Just as an update. No Air Europe, Avianca, Copa, or MEA. Not as full members, not as associate members, nothing for any of them right now. Look for Ae
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