FJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 969 posts, RR: 3 Posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10934 times:
I was wondering this for a while:
Imagine: A plane flying LHR - JFK(example) is hijacked. It's heading for the USA. Is there a plane of action for these kind of situations?
Can somebody tell me what the authority is going to do? Like for example: shoot down the plane so it can't be used for purposes as 9/11.
Any reply: thanks
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7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10774 times:
I think its a cert that if a plan is hijacked and it can be safely shot down, it will be. A small sacrifice - but the pax become unwilling heroes. But only after all other attempts and negotiations have been proved fruitless.
Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
Pilatusguy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10758 times:
A wise thing to do is talking to the hijackers and seeing where the plane actually goes. It is not in any way appropriate to shoot down a plane just because it's hijacked and heading to the US.
Looking at the USA's - let's call it: state of alert - they would probably send up some fighters to impress the folks and may even shoot - at the very last minute.
Sidetask: Think about what (i.e.) India would do if a hijacked plane would be heading towards their territory.....
Rwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10559 times:
I don't think the hijackers would do this because of the risk of being shot down would be too great. They would be more likely to hijack a plane going from New York to London and turn it around quickly before there was a chance of jets being sent up.
I think there is so much focus on aviation and security, i think the next time they will strike it will be on something with low security such as trains (like Madrid recently) or a cruise ship for example.
Ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10548 times:
First, assuming an armed marshall is on the flight, he/she would probably have reduced the chance of this situation going any further than an initial phase of the attempted hijacking. Second, with the new cockpit doors or clear procedures to reduce access to the cockpit, and will not open them would probably fly severe manuvers to throw around the a-holes. Third, the a/c would be in constant radio contact with government authorities in the UK and US to determine the situation if just knifes, guns or a bomb on board and find out what the hijackers wanted. Fourth, probabably all flights within and inbound to the US would be halted and grounded until the situation concluded and later reborded with extreme inspections of passangers, luggage and freight. Probably some inbound flight would be diverted or retuned to airport departed from, depending where in flight. Fifth, the flight would be surrounded by military aircraft to act if necessary. Sixth, the a/c would probably be directed to an airport not in a major city (a diversion or emergency airport) or maybe a military air base. Once the a/c is on the ground then 'negotations' would take place and if they fail, then storming of the a/c at great risk of the death of many pax. If the a/c cannot be diverted, and continues to present a high risk of a crash into a building, then after all else fails it would be shot down.
Gary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10532 times:
also about the being shot down bit, wouldnt it be in the hijackers interests to wait till they reached american airspace or something? i would have thought it was silly from their point of view to hijack it too early, just depends on their intentions i guess
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10340 times:
The only course of action is sending two fighters to intercept it, if the hijackers don't change course then it must be shot out of the sky, in this day and age with Terrorism we don't have many choices. If the pilots get overpowered and there is no air marshal we must let our Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines defend us. With force.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4275 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10287 times:
I agree with Rwylie77. A hijacking attempt in the vain of 9/11 is unlikely, at best. It may have worked pre-9/11 but it sure wouldn't after.
Unfortunately terrorists are more creative than this and there are other means I am sure they will explore first. Is it possible there are al-Qaeda pilots out there, flying for non-US airlines? Absolutely.